Saudi, Qatar, Turkey, the US, and Israel even Al-Qaeda we’re told, they all seem to hate him and want him out, why so? What is so deadly about this guy that this unlikely alliance has formed to destroy him. Is it because the Sunnis want him out because of his Alawite heritage and wish to impose their own Sunni rule. Then the US and Israel want him out because him and Ahmedinejad are the only significant Muslim rulers who aren’t in their pockets? Or are there other reasons.
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this is going to be an excellent topic. replying here just to get notified on replies
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Enemy of my enemy is my friend holds true in Middle East politics. That means that the Americans hold hands with Al Qaeda to topple Qaddafi and Saudis would befriend Israel to fight Hezbollah & Hamas. All the parties that are enemy of Assad (whom by the way I consider a dictator and he must let the power go) are in it for their own reasons.
US/Saudis/Israel want him out to block Iranian pathway to Arab 'resistance' block. Qataris are in it because since post 9/11 they are working extra time to appease USA because their foreign objective in their own words is to "replace Saudi Arabia's waning influence" and "become a major player in the politics of the world". So they are in it for apparent reasons just as they played a surprisingly leading role in the war against Libya where they along with UAE sent war planes as the Muslim world watched by mutely. Turkey want him out for Kurdish PKK related reasons and may be because EU wants him out too so Turkey naturally has to do bulk of laundry work in the Middle East anyway to serve and protect EU's policies.
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Why does Saudi hate Iran then and wants to reduce its power?
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It seems you're supporting nepotism?
Assad true colours have come alight. Which leader slaughters his own population.
Alawites are a minority in Syria and generally its a Sunni country. He is nothing like Ahmadinejad as a leader.
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Assad has now become irelevant alhamdulilah, this shaitan has been butchering his people for more than 2 years.
It is only if he gets killed by the muslim masses or he flees the country this 2 choice he has now!
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I am not supporting Assad but just trying to understand the situation. He is involved in civil war with his rebels and he is trying to oppress them but is that so different to other Middle Easten nations such as Bahrain. Their Shia majority were brutally suppressed by Saudi forces and now those Saudis are ironically sponsoring civil war against another Arab country. Had the Shias in Bahrain had more support there may have been a similar situation there.
IMHO the West should stay away and not be dragged into a situation where they would be considered Muslim killers whether they get involved or not.
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^Bahrain is very different from Syria in most aspects. Both Syria and Bahrain are ruled by dictators albeit of very different kind in terms of nature, demographics and environment. Assad is a Baathi regime while Bahrain is ruled by monarchs who are not even from Bahrain originally. Syria sits at a critical hot spot, hosts sole Russian naval base in the Middle East, has a long actionful history with Israel, has no shortage of weapons and terrorists (ironically Assad used to deny he had any when the Syrian intelligence was sending them into Iraq in a Kashmir style "jihad"), and happens to be a key part of what is referred to as "resistance block" of the Middle East. It will be quite naive to even suggest that the "West", as you called it, should "stay out" because they are THE most significant player of the politics in the region.
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To me it seems Syria and Iran are the only countries who are standing up to America, the West and Israel. IMO these countries are the only strong opponents against the old enemy of the Middle Eastern nations i.e. Israel. As Saudi and Qatar are trying to destroy Assad that suggests to me they are concerned only with increasing their own power in the Middle East. If Assad collapses then that would mean George Bush's Axis of Evil would be almost entirely wiped out with just Iran remaining.
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Iran co-operated with the United States in Afghanistan war and also helped the US survive an even worse beating in Iraq with its shia majority kept under check.
Syria is in chaoots with the united states for past 4 decades one of its mandates was protecting israel, why you think they had free hand for past 2 years to butcher the people in syria?
So much for axis of evil, i told you before too much tv bad for your health!
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BBC - Democracy Live - William Hague says UK could start arming Syrian rebels
Do you guys agree that the West, UK, EU etc should supply weapons to the Syria or do you think they should stay out of it?
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The Syrian rebels have taken significant ground from Assad and his allies. Assad is no longer viable as leader in the long term.
The British foreign minister now offering to supply the rebels, after 2 years of watching syria burn should be viewed with the contempt it deserves.
As a muslim i am reminded of the following verse in the quran:
Oh you who believe do not take Jews and Christians as friends and allies who themselves are friends and allies of each other.
(Qur’an, al-Maidah, 5:51)
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The Syrian rebels have taken significant ground from Assad and his allies. Assad is no longer viable as leader in the long term.
The British foreign minister now offering to supply the rebels, after 2 years of watching syria burn should be viewed with the contempt it deserves.
As a muslim i am reminded of the following verse in the quran:
Oh you who believe do not take Jews and Christians as friends and allies who themselves are friends and allies of each other.
(Qur’an, al-Maidah, 5:51)
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Just to be noted. All those supporting the Syrian Rebels against Assad
- USA
- Saudi Arabia
- UAE
- Qatar
Have in the past all supported the 1980s fighters in Afghanistan and the Taliban.
The only notable exception is Israel.
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supporting in which way? the united states just makes 2 faced speeches at press conferences saying civillian lives should be protected yet they did nothing against their agent Bashar Assad.
This the same United States that said hosni mubarak the loyal poodle of america is not a dictator even up to the last minute of his time in power.
Joe Biden says Egypt’s Mubarak no dictator, he shouldn’t step down… - CSMonitor.com
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Weapons, money, support, training.
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What EXACTLY is your point, that the British are helping or that it took so long? Had he done this two years ago would you be happier?
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I don't think that israel really wants assad to go at this point since it is better to have an enemy that is known. Of course, with saudia and qatar leading the way with dollars, israel can easily sit this one out and get some popcorns as hezbollah's supply line is destabilized anyway. Israel recently bombed some targets in syria when it felt that its security was being threatened.
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Saudi, Qatar, Turkey, the US, and Israel even Al-Qaeda we're told, they all seem to hate him and want him out, why so? What is so deadly about this guy that this unlikely alliance has formed to destroy him. Is it because the Sunnis want him out because of his Alawite heritage and wish to impose their own Sunni rule. Then the US and Israel want him out because him and Ahmedinejad are the only significant Muslim rulers who aren't in their pockets? Or are there other reasons.
It is because he and his family are "Alawite" Muslims, which is a branch of Shia'ism. They are not "Shia", they have their own sect. What I have learned in the past few months by hanging out with a lot of different Arabs from different areas of the Middle East is the incredible divide amongst Arabs in general. There is really no unity. Lebanese people who are Sunni or Druze will be glad to see Assad gone because this current ruling party occupied Lebanon for several years. The people who fiercely support Assad are usually from Alawite background themselves.
It's actually really complicated and a lot of these details are not known to people who are not from this community or from the surrounding countries. Alawite minority were suppressed and persecuted for decades until Assad's father came into power, now they rule the country.
Bring other Muslims into the equation (Saudi Arabia) .... they obviously have issues with Assad. It is his faith that is the issue for them.
Now, both sides are doing wrong. It is not just the external "terrorists" who are wreaking havoc on the country. The army is as well. My friend has a niece who is working in a Jordanian refugee camp treating Syrian refugees. Syrian boys are being raped, not just the women .... and it's a free for all meaning both sides are committing horrendous atrocities against the people.
But at the end of the day, there is no unity at all - anywhere. It's easy to point the finger at the US and Israel, but these communities have their own deep-rooted hatred towards each other.