@CM
so carrying a lady’s heavy groceries for her, it’s not because you want to out of concern/courtesy or are worried that she might be tired but just b/c she’s a woman?
i agree that some women take the issue of 'feminism" to extremes and have lost sight of what’s important.
why can’ the woman be seen as the white knight too. that’s the meaning of chivalry to me.
“the sum of the ideal qualifications of a knight, including courtesy, generosity, valor.” they are the qualities that a gentleman and a lady should have.
No, all he’s saying is that isn’t chivalry, that’s called having the manners and respect to help out someone in need. Chivalry is gender specific. How many knights at King Arthur’s round table were women? Yeah, thought so.
you’re discriminating against your own gender by doing that.
Chivalry is wrong if its only directed towards women. Everyone should be treated equally regardless of gender. I am a woman and i would want a man to treat me as he would another man. The purpose of feminism wasn’t to say to stop holding doors for women. The purpose was to say, if you hold the door for me, hold the door for that man over there too out of mutual concern/courtesy. Its fair.
some use this term of “feminism” as a way of saying it’s ok to be abusive, impolite, rude, and a total jerk to women b/c they demand to be treated fairly/equally but why can’t they be nonabusive, polite, not rude, not jerky to both men and women. is it too much to ask for that mutual concern/courtesy for a fellow human being.
the combination of qualities expected of an ideal knight, esp courage, honour, justice, and a readiness to help the weak 2. courteous behaviour, esp towards women 3. the medieval system and principles of knighthood 4. knights, noblemen, etc, collectively
and a Knight is this
a mounted** soldier** serving under a feudal superior in the Middle Ages.
(in europe in the Middle Ages)** a **man, usually of noble birth, who after an apprenticeship as page and squire was raised to honorable military rank and bound to chivalrous conduct.
any person of a rank similar to that of the medieval knight.
a man upon whom the nonhereditary dignity of knighthood is conferred by a sovereign because of personal merit or for services rendered to the country. In Great Britain he holds the rank next below that of a baronet, and the title Sir is prefixed to the Christian name, as in Sir John Smith.
are we in the middle ages, get with the times Nomi, Riz, CM :p, in these times, chivalry can be seen as something that is gender neutral. yes women love the attention, that's just something we have inbuilt in us, can't help it. but women can be white knights rescuing(showing concern) their men when he's in a tense/stressed/in not ideal situations. why not :D
we'll just agree to disagree on this b/c this is how i see chivalry the fundamentals of the sweet concept don't need to die off
Because if you open doors, help with groceries, and walk us to our side of the car, most likely you'll receive a sandwich and get laid. Which is a win win for both.
So I'm not sure why men or women try to fight their roles so much. Just sayin!