Simple question. Opening doors for you is not necessary you have arms. No need to walk you to the car. You got feet.
Its an age of equality and gender empowerment so why do you want guys to do that for you? If a guy can stand on his feet in a bus or train for 30 minutes so can you. Why should he give up his seat?
Definitions for hypocrisy
an expression of agreement that is not supported by real conviction
Hypocrisy is the state of pretending to have beliefs, opinions, virtues, feelings, qualities, or standards that one does not actually have, or applying a criticism to others that one does not apply to oneself. Hypocrisy involves the deception of others and is thus a kind of lie
Chivalry is equated with respect, consideration and esteem. If some random guy opens a door for me, I appreciate his good manners and think he accords a woman with respect. Doesn't necessary make it true about how he thinks of women - but there's an assumption that he has good social graces and is well-mannered.
Why do I want a guy to be chivalrous? Because it makes me feel valued.
But, in exchange, or rather not in a tit-for-tat exchange, but as part of my own upbringing, I will also treat others with courtesy since my actions speak to how I was raised and how I accord respect and/or deference to others.
Chivalry = courtesy in present times and it goes both ways.
And if a guy can stand on his feet in a bus for 30 minutes, then he can spend half that time making his own sammich. Why should the woman have to give up her time to do that?
We might as well stop saying “Please”…“Thank you”…“Sorry” as well. There is a thing as courtesy and doing things from the goodness of your own heart.
I did not call on you and don't speak out of turn! :p
But when a man opens a door for another man is that showing respect? Nope not at all. Its just hey that guy opened the door....ohhh look at that hottie that just walked by.
And in the modern day and age shouldn't a woman's self-esteem and value come from her own self-worth and not her interactions with men?
Edit: That has nothing to do with Chivalry RV. Stick to the subject at hand :p
I did not call on you and don't speak out of turn! :p
But when a man opens a door for another man is that showing respect? Nope not at all. Its just hey that guy opened the door....ohhh look at that hottie that just walked by.
And in the modern day and age shouldn't a woman's self-esteem and value come from her own self-worth and not her interactions with men?
Edit: That has nothing to do with Chivalry RV. Stick to the subject at hand :p
What did Mr. Maslow say about our hierarchy of needs? The fourth step was our need for esteem that comes from both within (self-esteem) and from without (respect of others). While in an ideal world our self-esteem would be sufficient, in the real world it is not. We as humans crave/desire the respect and consideration of others. How that is manifested differs from person to person. But social constructs have made chivalry a demonstration of said respect being accorded to women.
Call it what you want, call it courtesy so that it's not gender specific - but everyone wants to be treated well.
Maslow was an idiot. I can say that as I am self-actualized. However women do not need a male's attention for self-esteem these days. If they do...that is rather messed up.
CAUSE....we have to go through a lot more hell on this earth than you men do...and we deserve respect!!!
...do men have to pop out a baby and sacrifince there figures....NO
...do men have to deal with major hormonal fluctuations each month....NO
...is there a need for me to continue...???
Pop out babies, no. Sacrifice figure, well they do go out of shape.
Well, many have to deal with women with major hormonal fluctuations each month. Isn't that enough punishment?
It’s not a matter of seeking a male’s attention - you’re right women don’t necessarily need the attention (which of course is different than wanting the attention). But when there is a social interaction, man or woman you want to be treated well, right?
Fortunately or unfortunately the way we’ve been socialized, if a man demonstrates chivalry there’s an assumption that he’s a good guy who knows how to treat others right
Okay, now going to your example, if a guy and girl are on a date and the girl pays for all of the dates, does that make the guy feel less of a guy, especially if others know that she’s been paying for the dates or running the relationship? They guys I know, insist on paying and it’s because of social expectations and the idea of self and social worth connected to those expectations.
I believe girls who expect courtesy yet don't give it are wrong, however that doesn't mean that you as a man can't show your good manners simply by opening the door for a woman, it's not like you are going to sprain something, after all where would we all be if everyone was rude and inconsiderate.
And when I see someone open the door for someone else, it makes me want to be just as polite as well, because kindness begets kindness, if all that doesn't matter to you than God help you.