Why do we need a madhab?

[diwana]

@cricketplaya

1,2- I agree there is fighting in the school of thought but that is again a minority like I said. Your seeing it with a narrow lense, if you attend gatherings, you’ll witness the brotherhood that exist. Unfortunately many of the people here who criticize (not pointing at you), have never stepped into a gathering or only few times in their lives. That is why the negativity is highlighted much more than the positive. That’s true in all cases, look at life1 forum, negative cases are given importance more because nobody is bothered with positivity.

3- Like I said, it’s a matter of principle. You follow a principle, you can’t jump from one to another. If for the last 1000 years the 4 school of thought have existed harmoniously, then what is the problem today? That is the question. I cannot explain it any further, you should ask a scholar.

4- When you say it’s “fine to say the ruling is illogical”, you’re implying the sunnah is illogical in a way. Because the rulings are not of Imam Shafi’i himself but are backed up by the sunnah. Just like we have different way of praying amongst the four schools, all from the sunnah so we can’t say the one is illogical and one is not.

5- Again, what do you mean by “anyone”, you mean any Ahmad, Ali, or Zubair on the street can interpret however they like? That is what the disease this ummah is suffering from. Every other joe has his own interpretation which only splits the ummah into billion..

There were great scholars in our history, why only these 4 out of the thousands and thousands of scholars were ‘followed’ ? Makes you think, don’t it? Obviously there will be ignorant people who will follow the present scholars (we can see it happening) no doubt about it. Let’s not use this as a basis to criticize the “following” of the 4 great imams.

Lastly, please read up on these ismailis/aga khanis, qadianis..etc if you have not already, these are not Muslim school of thoughts. This thread is about the 4 Muslim schools of thought; Hanafi, Shafi’i, Maliki and Hanbali.

We can have another thread on the shia, ismaili, qadianis..etc

That’s all I’m going to post about this subject because I’ve already posted what I know and could.

3- I know you may not answer but here the main question comes!

Who made this principle?

Allah almighty or the prophet SAW?

4-If it was really truly from the prophet SAW then why other imams ruled against it? Least they could do is to keep BOTH imam shafi and their rulings to be valid.

5- Yes if ahmed, ali or zubair reads up, takes time to search the question enough as the question comes along. Not necessarily sticking to the made up ‘principle’ you mentioned.

So why even four and then their further divisons? why not one?

I know something about ismalilies, shia and ahmadis. All I wanted to mention the ‘mindset’ which people have which is the root cause of the problems, not necessarily the ‘fight’ and bickering’ among people.

The root cause is:

A- Being adamant on following a group leader called ‘imam’ without searching, learning or even thinking on your own.

Meaning being a robot (I have already used the word sheep many times)** who is programmed to follow a school of thought or another human being who came AFTER the prophet SAW without giving a second thought.**

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Sorry I was not able to see you accept or refute ‘the truth’ which I mentioned and having no comment on the deobandi/barelvi divisions already made because of ill defined issues which are or were open for interpretaions despite having four imams (according to you being harmonious)for centuries.

Lastly: As the esence of my position.

Following something partly from each madhab = Tolerance and is not a sin as it was not prohibited (nor dictated) by Allah or his prophet saw. Remember, Imams came AFTER the prophet SAW.

Following one madhab only (and making a false ‘principle’) = Intolerance (meaning you might be rejecting something good which was taken by other imam from the sunnah!

In my humble understanding, islam does not expect people to follow religion or its rulings blindly.

There are many iyahs in quran to ask people to think and ponder and angels were enough for Allah to follow his command without thinking! There would not have been any need of human being if blind followers were intended by almighty! I think there is a book written by a convert “Even Angels Asked”. …They said" Are we not enough? ( I have discussed this to death with psyah bro in the past)