Why do Shias beat upon themselves on 9/10 muharram

[Ibn_Sadique]

Re: Why do Shias beat upon themselves on 9/10 muharram

@aqeel123

if first 5 claiphs r appointed with the pleasure of ALLAH then it was also ALLAHS will to appoint next 2. Ferro cudnt have been king without ALLAHS will. u get the point.

I didnt bother reading ur post since i read ur logic of rating Abu Bakar better than ALI a.s on basis of being 1st caliph.

However u need to read ur posts while u post em. You copied same sermon twice. Point #6 and #7 are same in both posts.

Also lecture # 6 in Nahjul blagha isnt what u posted.
http://www.al-islam.org/nahjul/6.htm

Every thing happens with the Will of Allah (swt) whether good or bad.

Whatever is good it pleases Allah (swt) - Thus Imam Ali (ra) states that Allah (swt) was pleased with appointments Hz. Abu Bakr, Hz. Umar and Hz. Uthman (May Allah be pleased with them)

I didn’t expect you to agree with that 'cos I know you are a Shia. My apologies for repeating a sentence - It was getting a bit late.

Thank you for correcting my reference - Indeed it was not lecture 6 - It should be letter 6 of Nahjul Balagha. I am sure you knew that.

Here is the correct reference.

Arabic

http://www.islamology.com/Resources/Nahj_Imam/Letters/book/06.htm

English

http://www.islamology.com/Resources/Nahj_Imam/Letters/bookE/letter6.htm#letter6

Below is the correct and accurate translation of the above.

Verily, the people who paid allegiance to Abu Bakr, Umar and Uthman, have paid allegiance to me based on the same principles as the allegiance to them. So anyone who was present has no right to go against his pledge of allegiance, and anyone who was absent has no right to oppose it. And verily shura (consultation) is only the right of the Muhajirs and the Ansar. So if they decide upon a man and declare him their imam, then it is with the pleasure of Allah. If anyone goes against this decision, then he must be persuaded to follow the rest of the people. If he persists, then fight with him for leaving that which has been accepted by the believers. And Allah shall let him wander misguided and not guide him.