I dont agree with it either, Thats why im asking why do people say it? Its all well people saying suicide is weak etc, But if your in that situation you will know how it feels. Especially if you loose someone so close to you. (death wise) Yes im talking suicide. So i wud appreciate if people wud stop saying thats weak. Because believe me what that person went thru was not weak.
im sorry but it is weak, thats my opinion. when you feel suicidal, you have a choice, either you be strong and pull yourself out of it, you have faith that things will get better(its easier said than done i know but you TRY)or you kill yourself. killing yourself is being weak. there are millions of people around the world in awful situations, the people of haiti is a good example i guess, but they still carry on, no matter how hard it is to do so.
personally i believe if someone commits suicide, be they religious or not,at the time of them doing it,theyre not close to Allah at all.
anyway like someone said,you dont seem to have found the answers you wanted, but hopefully the answers given here will help in some way.