Re: Why do Pakistanii men make the worst husbands?
I have seen this general observation of men in Pakistan. They just don't understand women and take a wife for granted. This isn't always true but is most of the time.
Where else in the world besides Pakistan is it seen as unmanly to do the housework? To help ur wife around?
And all Pakistani women I know agree on this point.
A few days ago my brother and his family went to a party at his family friend's house. There were people of several (Muslim) nationalities there and my brother told me when men started discussing their wives, all the Pakistani men started criticizing their wives whereas the Iranians and Turks and even Arabs and Afghans (not pashtuns) were praising their wives.
Why is it like this?
And is it just me or has anyone noticed that when Pakistani men marry goris they treat them way better than how he would have if he was to have married someone from back home? I have seen this behaviour in my ex-husband as well (and before any Pakistani man tries to link my divorce to my attitudes to Pakistani men, I'd just like to say that he had an affair with his white gf b4 he divorced me).
Many points mentioned in your post.
1) Pakistani men (born in their native land or of Pak descent) are the same as any other man, Gora, Hindu, etc etc. Pakistani men have their pros and cons point like any other man. (u did mention , it isn't always true).
2) Ask an Indian or an Arab woman and she will tell you how their men do not understand them,and the way they are treated is abysmal. Many of my cousins (we are Pak) are married to non Desi women, ie Arab, African. All these women will tell you how the men from their background are the worst and the ideal man is the Pakistani man ( yes, seriously)..In turn my cousins wives sisters are all also married to Pakistani men.
3) I've never been to a dinner party or get together where other men, especially Muslim discuss and criticize their wives.Discussing your spouse with others is just so crass and demeaning.
Re: Why do Pakistanii men make the worst husbands?
hnmmmm generally pakistani people are the worst. we have jahalaat filled to our core no matter how many degrees we have. we have our own versions of islam- u wil never see such practices in arab countries for eg , we r generally backwards as a generic. but there r genuine nice ppl pakistanis too. men in our race have been spoiled by their mothers.damaad ko bi sarr pe bhetao hua hai. my own mum wont let my brothers lift a finger-!-so obv these men go onto expect same from wives. blame the mothers!!!! :) my husband and BIL same. my husbands changed over the years though thank god.
Re: Why do Pakistanii men make the worst husbands?
just remembered- i used to make my husbabd a packed lunch for work when we were in uk. hes friends were very impressed with me. they told him that none of their wives -non pak-dnt even get up with them innte morning let alone make brekkie and lunch.
he came home and told me himself and slowly came out of his paki shell.
now in pak- his mother and women generally here keep reinstating how its a woman 'job' to do all these things. she was horrorfied when he made his own tea. so women like this dont help. i def blame the women / mothers more
Re: Why do Pakistanii men make the worst husbands?
Pakistani girls relatively speaking are high mantinace and have a big ego.Gori gals are humble ,more understanding ,give guy space, dont mutter to them self and dont bother about"log kay khahen gay- what will ppl say". its easer to be yourself with a gori she wont judge u ,wont try to change you or be controling,Its easier to be friends.
Might just be the kind of women you've come across. Because, I can think of many many examples of crazy white women who are a nightmare to be around.....but then I also know amazing women who happen to be white. Oh and I also know Paki women who are horrible wives/mothers.
There goes the "white girls are better htan desi girls" argument.
Re: Why do Pakistanii men make the worst husbands?
Comments such as OP's and nadz123's show that such people don't have much interaction with people from other cultures/nationalities.
Turks: do you know how many physical abuse there is among Turks? And if you dig in deeper you will hear a lot of Turkish women complaining about their in laws. But no, you saw one turkish man praising his wife. So Pakistani men suck and turkish men rock.
Arabs: yadibladikhap. Same story.
Italianos: Tsk, you know what women hate about them? They are such mamas boys.
Iranians, Afghans: If I have to pick one flaw that I come across a lot, it is the extra marital affairs and cheating.
Maybe try not to generalize based on your own personal experiences.
And nadz really?:
hnmmmm generally pakistani people are the worst. we have jahalaat filled to our core no matter how many degrees we have. we have our own versions of islam- u wil never see such practices in arab countries for eg , we r generally backwards as a generic. but there r genuine nice ppl pakistanis too. men in our race have been spoiled by their mothers.damaad ko bi sarr pe bhetao hua hai. my own mum wont let my brothers lift a finger-!-so obv these men go onto expect same from wives. blame the mothers!!!! :) my husband and BIL same. my husbands changed over the years though thank god.
Oh so you conducted a worldwide survey and these results came out. Interesting.
The thing is, if you were Turkish, your name would have been özgim123, and you would have been saying exact the same, but then about Turks. And if you were Arabic (Habiba123) your thoughts about Arabs would have been exact the same as they are about us pakis.
Sometimes it also helps to do something about your own attitude. And remove those blinders please; they limit your view.
Re: Why do Pakistanii men make the worst husbands?
Sounds like you are just ranting. In that case..i would advise you to steer away from generalization. Though, i have to admit that negative attitude is prevalent in some men and their attitude of life in general. But there are good men as well. My problem is..when you mention Pakistani men..you are generalizing.
Re: Why do Pakistanii men make the worst husbands?
I have seen this general observation of men in Pakistan. They just don't understand women and take a wife for granted. This isn't always true but is most of the time.
Where else in the world besides Pakistan is it seen as unmanly to do the housework? To help ur wife around?
And all Pakistani women I know agree on this point.
A few days ago my brother and his family went to a party at his family friend's house. There were people of several (Muslim) nationalities there and my brother told me when men started discussing their wives, all the Pakistani men started criticizing their wives whereas the Iranians and Turks and even Arabs and Afghans (not pashtuns) were praising their wives.
Why is it like this?
And is it just me or has anyone noticed that when Pakistani men marry goris they treat them way better than how he would have if he was to have married someone from back home? I have seen this behaviour in my ex-husband as well (and before any Pakistani man tries to link my divorce to my attitudes to Pakistani men, I'd just like to say that he had an affair with his white gf b4 he divorced me).
Not that it is an unreal scenario, but such stories always sound so fishy. Did you made this part up to back up your theory?
Party where people of every nationality are invited. All of a sudden wives-discussion starts, and surprise surprise, the pakistanis fail the test, whereas all the others pass with flying colours.
Why did they start discussing their wives? Werent the wives their aswell?
Or maybe those wives were nasty. Just like the bad Pakistani men you have come across.
Re: Why do Pakistanii men make the worst husbands?
Why is it like this?
And is it just me or has anyone noticed that when Pakistani men marry goris they treat them way better than how he would have if he was to have married someone from back home? I have seen this behaviour in my ex-husband as well (and before any Pakistani man tries to link my divorce to my attitudes to Pakistani men, I'd just like to say that he had an affair with his white gf b4 he divorced me).
A lot of gori wives would just walk out if they were treated the same way as some back home wives..
Re: Why do Pakistanii men make the worst husbands?
Might just be the kind of women you've come across. Because, I can think of many many examples of crazy white women who are a nightmare to be around.....but then I also know amazing women who happen to be white. Oh and I also know Paki women who are horrible wives/mothers.
There goes the "white girls are better htan desi girls" argument.
I think white women have a LOT less pressure to deal with.. prob less potential for drama... I don't know any who are married to desi husbands and expected to dress a certain way, ask inlaws or hubby's permission to go out with friends or see their parents, do the bulk of the housework at their inlaws (or usually even expected to live with inlaws in the first place) and would generally not be expected to give up work or study..
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A lot of gori wives would just walk out if they were treated the same way as some back home wives..
Dependency + culture are such powerful things :(
True about culture for some extent, but a lot of goris stay with their abusive husbands/boyfriends too. Why is that so?
Btw, you are always quick to whipe out generalizations made about every other nationality in the world. Which is a good quality. But what happens to that quality of yours when it matters desis?
Re: Why do Pakistanii men make the worst husbands?
True about culture for some extent, but a lot of goris stay with their abusive husbands/boyfriends too. Why is that so?
Btw, you are always quick to whipe out generalizations made about every other nationality in the world. Which is a good quality. But what happens to that quality of yours when it matters desis?
Hit a nerve, have I?
Why don't you have a look thru my 'likes' to other ppls comments if you're so interested?
I'm not keen on ppl who are overly patriotic and blind to their faults, whatever their race or nationality..
(I'm not 'pure' desi btw and I don't have blind support or loyalty to any country)
SOME gori women do stay with bad husbands and boyfriends but generally speaking it's not encouraged by culture/society/family as much..