Re: Why do non-religious people think that religious people live in fool’s paradise?
Do you not like me generalizing molvies?
or is it atheists?
:?
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hmm mirza sahib is too recent to put it on this test. Remember its my logic only.
And “why so picky” is whole different subject.
But I again say its very unlikely for people or even a whole govt to create such phenomenon, never mind one person alone.
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yar what test? just believe.
but if you want universality of phenomena, you can’t beat the sun gods. every ancient civilization from the aztecs to the egyptians had them. so now will you believe in sun gods too?
also there were humans since 200,000 years. this 2000, 3000, 5000 etc is a tiny fraction of the period. the phase is dying. mankind used stone tools and painted in caves for more time than that.
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ok so people believed in sun and Darwin.
then always one man comes in the story, a humble truth full. Always saying the same thing.
Always people turn around from their very nature(which is sun and Darwin)
So you say that turn around is also part of basic human nature ?
And the one man is also part of evolution ?
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what one man one man? :\ do you mean prophetic religions? they have only happened in modern societies where people have successfully tamed nature into settlements. and the “market” has changed for need of new rules.
and no one believes in darwin. he proposed something that can be independently observed and verified, and seen as real.
what man has come since darwin? 
can you name one?
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then = sun
now= Darwin.
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what is the relation between sun and darwin?
more like then = sun. now = your favorite god. both were blind faith but with different sacrifices demanded.
Re: Why do non-religious people think that religious people live in fool’s paradise?
People are made in certain way. They need God.
Sun or Darwin or one in the haven.
Re: Why do non-religious people think that religious people live in fool’s paradise?
that is just your opinion, pal. not everyone needs a fairytale crutch.
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perhaps.
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Just curious queer.
is there any thing(s) you can appreciate about Islam.
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All his loevlee fraans on gaapshoop na
Re: Why do non-religious people think that religious people live in fool’s paradise?
I know 
but I want to see if on rational level there is some thing he knows.
Re: Why do non-religious people think that religious people live in fool’s paradise?
of course man. like the recipe for biryani. jkjk.. no seriously, i can see why islam appeals to people. it is a pretty good system but lets face it - i have had muslim friends since i was like 1 yr old. you guys dont follow 90% of your religion except when its formal time or time to argue.
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Humans are a biotic organic lifeforms with an ability to think,reason and pass judgements or formulate laws.
Being a unique independent and self evolving lifeform they naturally follow seeing is believing path.
It is well concieved that the current homosapien lifeforms are the most advanced in terms of rational scientific thinking and technology but still a book published 1600 years ago gave scientific proofs and patented out findings of today..
A simple example The great Big Bang theory(G.k):
**The Big Bang theory states that the universe started from an ******incredibly dense singularity that exploded. All matter, light and energy came from that explosion. The size of the universe increases as everything expands from this explosion. The theory is that of an expanding universe, meaning that the universe as a whole is expanding, instead of a static universe meaning that matter is expanding into a statically sized space.
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Now think a person born 1600 years ago who was illiterate(May ALLAH SAW forgive me) unable read and write certainly cannot make up these statements
He is the Originator of the heavens and the earth.
(Qur’an 6:101)
“Do not they not see that the heavens and the Earth
were once one mass, then We rent them apart?”
(Qur’an 21:30)
“And it is We who have constructed the heaven with might,
and verily, it is We who are steadily expanding it.”
(Qur’an 51:47)
“Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and
the earth were joined together (as one unit of creation),
before We clove them asunder, and We made from
water every living thing. Will they not then believe?”
(Qur’an 21:30)
“and the heavens we created with might (power) and
we are expanding it.”
(Qur’an 51:47)
Certainly you will find all sorts of ignorant fools and atheists who consider themselves descendants of einstein and would straight forwardly reject all the proof provided to them in a 1600 years old book when no way whatsoever the technology was that advanced to give scientific reasons like the big crunch,nebula,orbits,Earth’s protective Electromagnetic shield,Pulsars,Mountain Pegs,Eath’s egg shape,Moon reflects sunlight,The Sun and its life cycle(From Hydrogen intake to helium becoming a redgiant and finally back hole),atoms,Water cycle,lightning,water barriers,Everything in pairs(Life to a single DNA is a double helixed model),ANimal’s natural habitat,embryology and Humans made from clay,menstruation,cerebrum..and on and on and on
I think the most destructive trait of Human beings is ignorance which ultimately leads them to their facerolling demise..
I think being religious + being scientific is the way to go..There are many proofs available for people who are genuinely interested in finding the truth.
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Dude i did not know biryani till I was 17, and I was "is it salen or rice.
Ok most of our institution are shaped by islam. and we do follow.
In my example my father knew arabic, every time I ask question he would answer me from quran. So some what I knew quran.
Then over the year some of the more trouble maker of my friends read quran them selves. Ones who did, I saw them change, not beard and shalwar, change.. but watching their conduct to other people, change.
I saw people, kids adults going against their will/desire because of the principle.
Re: Why do non-religious people think that religious people live in fool’s paradise?
i think anyone who prays properly 5 times a day is going to have the focus and clarity of thought needed to do whatever he/she wants to do. its a pretty powerful thing.
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Beautifully said.
Re: Why do non-religious people think that religious people live in fool’s paradise?
Religious people think the same of non religious people.
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My white atheist Marxist Politics Professor once said - ‘it’s the irreligious people who are dangerous’ and believe it or not, this was actually a dig at those who claimed to so very religious. I wonder how many people would understand the hidden wisdom. The man had a way of saying interesting things in a very strange way.