Why do Muslims join kuffar armies?

[Arleitter]

Re: Why do Muslims join kuffar armies?

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[Arleitter]

@Faris_Udeen

Aaj khaas garmay maloom hotee hain.

[Lafanter]

@Jaanwar

Whats funny is, all the jihadi josh comes from these confused teenagers, living, working and studying in gora countries, having no social life whatsoever, and fed all sorts of twisted crap by these jihadi websites, and like someone said ‘lots of facial hair and dressed as geeks’, and then they start pretending to be the most fierce warriors islam has ever produced. Send them to these ‘musalman bhai’ countries and they will be begging to be sent back in a month’s time. As soon as they get treated like crap by other musalman brothers, being mugged and scammed, asked for bribe for their basic rights, no opportunities and tons of inflation, no civil and social rights, political oppression, and all such treats - the reason why you and/or your parents fled to these gora countries. That is also the reason why you can and will not go back. And that is the exact same reason why people join these ‘kuffar’ armies. Survival, my brethren. Don’t piss in the plate that you eat in. The whole world, including your forts-of-islam, are run by corporations. Common people are just common people. The biggest ullu day pathay are your thaykaydars of islam, and the mother****ers who blow themselves up and kill innocent people, muslims or otherwise. Its much easier to sit in the comfort of the rights and luxuries provided by these kuffar and spew your baseless and senseless hatred for people. And yes, you are doing islam a great service by being in people’s faces all the time. Shabash keep it up and you will go a long way.

wondering why are you so worked up ?
man you are so confused and mixed up everything in response to a very simple thread. Still couldn’t bring up anything against or for the topic.

man this thread is making people go crazy

[Lafanter]

Re: Why do Muslims join kuffar armies?

Nay, seek (Allah´s) help with patient perseverance and prayer: It is indeed hard, except to those who are humble,- 2:45

[Lafanter]

@khoji

because if you are convinced that these countries are waging crusade against Islam and killing Muslims then should be considered terrorist criminal countries. Why would you live in such a place?
Remember, it is not just about their being “kuffar” countries. Rather they are also enemies of Islam in khariji view.

keep your twisted ideology to yourself. As I said before there is no law or religion stopping muslims living in the west. Now please bring some thing against or for the topic.

is there some moderator watching, please do some thing about the derailing of the thread and personal attacks

[lil_ash]

*kuffar = non-believers *

and joining an army is a choice at least in this day and age so if an army is not involved in killing of innocent muslims, then i'd join.

so you are up for killing non-muslims?

[Faris_Udeen]

Re: Why do Muslims join kuffar armies?

^ Yep so am i but only combatants or those who commit crimes.

[Deeba1234]

@maroush

Having one’s cake and eating it too…

Exactly..

[Deeba1234]

iraq, afghanistan, iran, kuwait and now they are helping us in Pakistan getting rid of the suicide bombers who didnt even exist until few years ago when USA moved into our neighborhood.

anyways, I understand what you are trying to say but it does not justify joining the enemy ranks or does it ?

Some of us don't class the army of the western country we're living in as 'enemy ranks.'

[Faris_Udeen]

Re: Why do Muslims join kuffar armies?

^ yeah i agree with that too...

I served in the terriers but did not go to the regulars simply becuase it was against my beliefs.

Besides army service in my fammily is like a mandatory thing for men so i chose to serve for my own country, whilst i never served my adopted country in battle i trained with the Army in home soil and by no means are the terriers a auxillary frce.

If your not happy about fighting you van take a more logistical role maybe?

But anyway theres always the option to opt out if you dont want to fight.

[shardmanny]

you make a distinction between joining the army of the country you live in and joining the army of the kuffars. do you believe there is a difference?

living in a unbelieving place is a no crime (or a lesser sin), where-as being complicit in war against muslims is a major sin. so hence the emphasis on 'joining kuffar armies'

and also although you may not like to hear this, the basis of this view by western residing muslims is peaceful in nature because it shows the end and intermediate goals of the thinker as absolute true peace and equality

I'll not bother. :)

thank you! im glad to hear it

[Lafanter]

Some of us don't class the army of the western country we're living in as 'enemy ranks.'

lol you have a point there

[firenze]

@Lafanter

keep your twisted ideology to yourself. As I said before there is no law or religion stopping muslims living in the west. Now please bring some thing against or for the topic.

so as per this logic, what stop a Muslim from serving in the kuffar army - your twisted mind ?

is there some moderator watching, please do some thing about the derailing of the thread and personal attacks

i will rather say, send the thread opener on leave for days again, what ya think ?

[firenze]

@Jaanwar

Whats funny is, all the jihadi josh comes from these confused teenagers, living, working and studying in gora countries,** having no social life** whatsoever, and fed all sorts of twisted crap by these jihadi websites, and like someone said ‘lots of facial hair and dressed as geeks’, and then they start pretending to be the most** fierce warriors islam has ever produced**.

it seems like, you also saw the picture of crickplaya

The biggest ullu day pathay are your thaykaydars of islam, and the mother****ers who blow themselves up and kill innocent people, muslims or otherwise. Its much easier to sit in the comfort of the rights and luxuries provided by these kuffar and spew your baseless and senseless hatred for people.

exactly, also include their supporters too aka keyboard warriors or e-jihadies :k:

[cricketplaya]

@mercenary2k

hahahaha…who are you trying to kid?

you got banned because you always defended terrorists

and then u begged, and begged to be let back in…and were finally unbanned with a stern warning not to defend terrorists…but don’t worry…the leopard never changes its spots…

another pack of lies. i wonder where you learn to lie… hmm, maybe your zionist masters? they’re the best at it aint it? carry on with your lie machine, it will get you nowhere.

@lil_ash

so you are up for killing non-muslims?

see, you guys have this one track mind.. if a person is opposing the crusades led by the west, he must be a terrorist or terrorist sympathizer. get that disease out of your head for a minute and practice what you preach, the so-called “humanity first” ideology. no offense here, just trying to make a point.

it’s one thing to oppose the west and another to go on killing non-muslims. if you think with one track mind, then what’s the difference between you and your so-called enemies(put mqm here if u want)? both have the narrow understanding of the situation. if you oppose MQM, does that mean you will go on killing their families? put yourself in the position before asking such questions.

@Deeba1234

Some of us don’t class the army of the western country we’re living in as ‘enemy ranks.’

yes, our enemies are those chappal wearing, kalashnikov holding tribesmen… - May Allah give them more strentgh and patience

and there were those who classed the british empire as friends back in the day… i guess that disease is still rampant in our blood today. a british muslim will pray for the queen than to pray for the afghan.. cuz the afghan is just useless, sub-human, jahil terrorist… even nationalism doesn’t save anyone from being racist, pakistanis killed by drones are seen as victory in the eyes of the pakistanis themselves. “good job uncle sam, kill some more”

and to the idiot who keeps on posting, ill save you the trouble:

This message is hidden because firenze is on your ignore list.

[Faris_Udeen]

Re: Why do Muslims join kuffar armies?

All these things are a lot more complex than whats being posted.

I too believe the crusades never ended but i also beleive that Karbala is repeated again and again on Muslims by Muslims themselves.

Today theres no distinction between Westerners and Imperialists… and Islamic insurgents are just bunched up as terrorists

People really need to learn a lot more myself included…

I doubt anyone knows whats really happening out there…

In the west as rightly pointed out theres a lot more sense and Justice than back home…

But also theres a lot of double standards and hypocracy which makes first generation imigrants like me very puzzled…

Its really hard to straddle two cultures without being torn into peices… i mean the earth itself is ripped apart by the moving continents… what chance has a man!

Khair yeh guftagoo kafee lambee hain… mein apne kyaal azar karchooka hoon aab zara :cobra:

[firenze]

@cricketplaya

This message is hidden because firenze is on your ignore list.

lol exactly no life, ..i am actually expecting suicide attack on “firenze” profile… but you seems like a light-jihadi

[Faris_Udeen]

Re: Why do Muslims join kuffar armies?

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Yaaro choro yeh bahais chaloo saab kuch tanda lelo

[Lafanter]

so as per this logic, what stop a Muslim from serving in the kuffar army - your twisted mind ?

religion - islam

[khoji]

kAs I said before there is no law or religion stopping muslims living in the west. Now please bring some thing against or for the topic.

And who said anything about finding a law or religion stopping Muslims living in the West?
This is a simple question. If "kuffar enemies of Islam" are waging war against Islam then why are you guys living among those kuffars? Aren't your taxes helping them in their "crusade against Islam"?
And it is not just about monetary benefits you are providing to "enemies of Allah". By working in such countries, you are also providing them intellectual benefits.
Why gives those benefits to "kuffar, enemies of Islam" instead of "mujahideen, Fazlullah and Mullah Omar"?