Why do Muslims join kuffar armies?

[cricketplaya]

@UZ

CP I understand you are Pakistani and your feeling belong to Pakistan.Tell me what about the kids who are born here and they have no feeling for Pakistan.And if they have extreme desires to go into forces whats gonna happen?And if they don’t have money to pay for college and they have to join forces for their studies does it make them traitors?
Anyways my point is if country where I am living is fighting against Palestine, or KSA or Pakistan on the basis of religion then I will always prefer it that my children won’t join armies because then a muslim brother will be killing muslim brother.But if a country I am living in, is attacked by outside forces and they need help on the basis of humanitarian ground then may be I’ll let my children go.Like in world war2 people needed help for their countries.Afghanistan is not my country and Taliban are biggest Pakistan’s enemies so I have definitely no feelings for them, so I don’t care what is happening to that country.BUT in no way if my country where I am right now is fighting against ISLAM then I am never ever gonna let my children in forces.Mind that war against Afghanistan is not war against Islam its against stupid terrorists who are killing innocent people in Pakistan.****

Sorry, you have misread all my posts. I am not talking about Pakistan, I’m talking about the nation of Rasulullah! It doesn’t have any boundaries. I hate nationalism. It stinks. I used to be one of those patriotic individuals who would die for a green and white flag [that is actually funny, 95% would not fulfill that promise ]. Nationalism is a disease like aids, sorry to say. I consider Afghan Muslims my brothers as much as I consider fellow Pakistani Muslims my brothers. I consider Nigerian Muslims as my brothers as much as I consider Pakistanis my brothers. Wherever they are, Canada, USA, Europe…etc

@khoji

why live in those countries in the first place, if one is convinced that these countries have waged crusade against Islam?

This earth belongs to Allah, I can live wherever I chose to and I can and have the right to disobey any law of any country on this earth which goes against Allah and Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wasallam. **That includes not fighting against my fellow Muslims. **
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Day of judgment, I’m not going to stand with “Pakistanis” or “Canadians”, I’m either standing on the good side or evil. Guess which is the good side? Nation of Rasulullah! and that nation doesn’t have green and white flag.

and believe me if I had a choice right this moment, I’d pack up and leave wallahi!

@mercenary2k

This going back 1,000 years and assigning creative rights is nonsense.

Exactly the reason why cricketplaya’s nonsense holds no weight with me.

If this were a discussion on Jews/Zionists and Israel, you would be up in arms and putting out silly arguments to defend your masters. Please, you stink with hatred towards Pakistanis especially. Again, what are you doing on this forum anyway?

[mercenary2k]

If this were a discussion on Jews/Zionists and Israel, you would be up in arms and putting out silly arguments to defend your masters. Please, you stink with hatred towards Pakistanis especially. Again, what are you doing on this forum anyway?

hahahaha....

hatred for pakistanis? arent you the ones defending suicide bombers who are blowing apart pakistanis on a daily basis?

what am i doing on this forum? weren't you banned and then you begged and begged to be unbanned...so the question is what are you doing on this forum?

[cricketplaya]

hahahaha....

hatred for pakistanis? arent you the ones defending suicide bombers who are blowing apart pakistanis on a daily basis?

what am i doing on this forum? weren't you banned and then you begged and begged to be unbanned...so the question is what are you doing on this forum?

another LIE, stop putting words in my mouth.

and i never begged, your mistaking me for some other person.

[lil_ash]

@cricketplaya

bhayya, can i call you bhayya? thanks for your “concern” but no thanks. if you don’t like differing views, just don’t step outside your house.

haters gonna’ hate!

Loyalty to your country don’t mean killing your own. Now it’s a different and sad matter if people don’t recognize their own.

May Allah curse the queen and her goons.

Hell, it’s like UK is a colonial zoo! House N*GG**S as Malcolm X said! Didn’t have enough in the subcontinent…!?

Did I say that? All I said, if Pak army is going to kill innocents, it’s the same thing as joining kuffar armies, who, kill innocents.

:k: thanks for answering the questions.

:k: thank you! common sense is not common these days.

well then if you take it that way, all armies/millitaries are killing innocent people. then joining the army would be a kuffar right?

[cricketplaya]

well then if you take it that way, all armies/millitaries are killing innocent people. then joining the army would be a kuffar right?

*kuffar = non-believers *

and joining an army is a choice at least in this day and age so if an army is not involved in killing of innocent muslims, then i'd join.

[Dr.LuLworth]

Why do Muslims join kuffar armies?

i suppose the same reason you speak in kuffars language.

what kind of retarded logic is that?

^ thats what I said when I saw your question

What about using Kuffar technology?

lol.

extremist folk don't believe there is no muslim country because muslims are kaafir lovers. yet when needed, even iranians and qadiyanis are their muslim "brothers." no one can do right by these idiots. its their way or no way.

[cricketplaya]

lol.

extremist folk don't believe there is no muslim country because muslims are kaafir lovers. yet when needed, even iranians and qadiyanis are their muslim "brothers." no one can do right by these idiots. its their way or no way.

if you have an argument, post it. your language 'argument' was ridiculous. here im asking if you would kill your muslim brethren and your talking about english language and knowledge.

[Jaanwar]

Re: Why do Muslims join kuffar armies?

Whats funny is, all the jihadi josh comes from these confused teenagers, living, working and studying in gora countries, having no social life whatsoever, and fed all sorts of twisted crap by these jihadi websites, and like someone said 'lots of facial hair and dressed as geeks', and then they start pretending to be the most fierce warriors islam has ever produced. Send them to these 'musalman bhai' countries and they will be begging to be sent back in a month's time. As soon as they get treated like crap by other musalman brothers, being mugged and scammed, asked for bribe for their basic rights, no opportunities and tons of inflation, no civil and social rights, political oppression, and all such treats - the reason why you and/or your parents fled to these gora countries. That is also the reason why you can and will not go back. And that is the exact same reason why people join these 'kuffar' armies. Survival, my brethren. Don't piss in the plate that you eat in. The whole world, including your forts-of-islam, are run by corporations. Common people are just common people. The biggest ullu day pathay are your thaykaydars of islam, and the mother****ers who blow themselves up and kill innocent people, muslims or otherwise. Its much easier to sit in the comfort of the rights and luxuries provided by these kuffar and spew your baseless and senseless hatred for people. And yes, you are doing islam a great service by being in people's faces all the time. Shabash keep it up and you will go a long way.

[cricketplaya]

@Jaanwar

Whats funny is, all the jihadi josh comes from these confused teenagers, living, working and studying in gora countries, having no social life whatsoever, and fed all sorts of twisted crap by these jihadi websites, and like someone said ‘lots of facial hair and dressed as geeks’, and then they start pretending to be the most fierce warriors islam has ever produced. Send them to these ‘musalman bhai’ countries and they will be begging to be sent back in a month’s time. As soon as they get treated like crap by other musalman brothers, being mugged and scammed, asked for bribe for their basic rights, no opportunities and tons of inflation, no civil and social rights, political oppression, and all such treats - the reason why you and/or your parents fled to these gora countries. That is also the reason why you can and will not go back. And that is the exact same reason why people join these ‘kuffar’ armies. Survival, my brethren. Don’t piss in the plate that you eat in. The whole world, including your forts-of-islam, are run by corporations. Common people are just common people. The biggest ullu day pathay are your thaykaydars of islam, and the mother****ers who blow themselves up and kill innocent people, muslims or otherwise. Its much easier to sit in the comfort of the rights and luxuries provided by these kuffar and spew your baseless and senseless hatred for people. And yes, you are doing islam a great service by being in people’s faces all the time. Shabash keep it up and you will go a long way.

hogai khatam aapki aaj ki kahani? aur post karo. hum to bechayn rehty hn jb tk aapki post na pari jaye. but what did the becharay geeks do?

[a-town_boy]

Re: Why do Muslims join kuffar armies?

@cricketplaya, would u mind if i asked u how old u are?? just curious.

[cricketplaya]

@cricketplaya, would u mind if i asked u how old u are?? just curious.

im a teenager, a kid, 15 years old and i dress like a geek. :)

[Aceones]

(Emphasis added) Oh, so anyone who disagrees with YOU is an enemy of ALLAH?! Your arrogance is pitiful.

Kharijis also considered everyone else to be the enemy of Allah. They also thought of themselves as the only righteous ones.

I feel sorry for you, if thats all you understood from my post... and find it worthless explaining anything to you really, but just for fun and for reference and for those who really know how to read and understand what they read, here is my post again....

CP: they join those armies of kuffar due to different reasons, like - some are forced to do (compulsory military service) - some for financial benefits - some just for their country, they dont think about it as kuffar/islam thing. their "logical thinking" does not go beyond this worldly life. - some are taught to be enemies of ALLAH and His religion, and they are grown up this way, they join these armies for a purpose

now whoever falls under last two categories, start ranting please...

anyone can read this post of mine, and then your comment on it and easily get it what kind of retard you are : )

[khoji]

why not ?

because if you are convinced that these countries are waging crusade against Islam and killing Muslims then should be considered terrorist criminal countries. Why would you live in such a place?
Remember, it is not just about their being "kuffar" countries. Rather they are also enemies of Islam in khariji view.

[khoji]

May be the reason these fasadis are in their most hated countries is this:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/08/AR2010070805145.html

3 alleged al-Qaeda members arrested in bomb plot

[Crime_Master_GOGO]

i suppose the same reason you speak in kuffars language.

What ? Are you serious ?

[socrates]

was just wondering what length people are willing to go to just to retain foreign nationality.

[Zapatista]

Re: Why do Muslims join kuffar armies?

^From which country are you posting this from?

[socrates]

Re: Why do Muslims join kuffar armies?

kion?^

[Faris_Udeen]

Re: Why do Muslims join kuffar armies?

Aaj khaas garmay maloom hotee hain.

[mercenary2k]

another LIE, stop putting words in my mouth.

and i never begged, your mistaking me for some other person.

hahahaha...who are you trying to kid?

you got banned because you always defended terrorists

and then u begged, and begged to be let back in...and were finally unbanned with a stern warning not to defend terrorists....but don't worry....the leopard never changes its spots...