well buddy by this logic if you go few hundred years back when the western countries were going through their dark ages. It were muslims who started working in humanities, optics, physics, chemistry etc and later kufar built up on it.
Look, the topic in hand and what you are saying are totally different issues and have nothing to do with each other. It was a very simple question so if you want to justify what you believe at least make a valid argument
This line of reasoning has been used over and over again.
1,000 years Muslims were on top and now they are on bottom. So all Christian progress is due to Muslims.
And who did Muslims get their knowledge form? The Greeks, Romans, Egyptians and Persians.
So can I then conclude that Ancient Greeks invented the Internet?
The Romans invented the Car?
The Ancient Egyptians invented the Airplane?
Or the Persians invented Electricity?
Get a grip.
Muslims had an empire but they lost it due to infighting, the Mongol invasion, etc...
This going back 1,000 years and assigning creative rights is nonsense.
Exactly the reason why cricketplaya's nonsense holds no weight with me.
so showing you the bigger picture and explaining you what is what, is nonsense?
There is no harm in accepting that you were wrong. Living in denial takes you no where.
If joining 'kuffar' armies is so bad then why are you guys living in 'kuffar' land in the first place? Why not go live in Afghanistan or North Waziristan?
If joining 'kuffar' armies is so bad then why are you guys living in 'kuffar' land in the first place? Why not go live in Afghanistan or North Waziristan?
i wasnt expecting another post along the same lines but anyways, you can too refer to my new thread. I hope it ans your questions.
i wasnt expecting another post along the same lines but anyways, you can too refer to my new thread. I hope it ans your questions.
I only see some rulings from some clerics in that thread.
But the point in previous post was quite simple. Even though it is not "unIslamic" to live in "kuffar" countries, but why live in those countries in the first place, if one is convinced that these countries have waged crusade against Islam?
so showing you the bigger picture and explaining you what is what, is nonsense?
There is no harm in accepting that you were wrong. Living in denial takes you no where.
Its not a bigger picture....its just leeching on history to explain away the failures that exist today....
Who cares if muslims 1,000 years ago were technologically advanced than the west....what matters is today?
Where are muslims today?
why is it that jihadi people like cricketplaya have migrated to the west?
Its not a bigger picture....its just leeching on history to explain away the failures that exist today....
Who cares if muslims 1,000 years ago were technologically advanced than the west....what matters is today?
Where are muslims today?
why is it that jihadi people like cricketplaya have migrated to the west?
why dont you stick the topic and ans that question instead of starting a whole new topic with every new post.
you cannot ignore the fact that progresses made today base on what we(humans) achieved in the past since adam and eve and not one race or religion can take credit for all that.
So on what do you base your claim that muslims cannot use todays technologies ?
he has migrated for whatever reason and he is not bound by any law or religion not to live in any western country.
I only see some rulings from some clerics in that thread.
But the point in previous post was quite simple. Even though it is not "unIslamic" to live in "kuffar" countries, but why live in those countries in the first place, if one is convinced that these countries have waged crusade against Islam?
well i have shown you SOMETHING. Now you bring what credible material you have against it.
