Affirmative Action in the USA, and reservation in India are two totally different things. Lets not compare them and instead stick to talking about India here.
I understand that you do not have a clue about India, but zxcvb is an Indian. Unless he has himself benefited from reservation and is supporting it for selfish reasons, I don’t see how any sane Indian can support reservation.
There are better & more effective way to remedy the “wrongs” done to dalits - reservation just does not work.
P.S. Since you brought up Affirmative Action, I am sure you know that it is not without its drawbacks & critics
Brother the Indian governmentis planning Affirmative Action in india after a survey done by the Indian government wherin they did find out that Muslims are discriminated and also fro the Dalits they want to do the same.
I haven't benefited from reservation but my father has.
My father was born in a dirt poor family in punjab with no land. He worked in the fields during the morning and went to school. He had very low scores but thanks to reservation he managed to get into college, thanks to reservation he managed to get a job in the Indian Foreign Service and became a very high ranking Indian diplomat.
Thanks to reservation, we are now living in USA
Millions of middle class 'dalits' have benefited from reservation and will continue to do so.
Brother the Indian governmentis planning Affirmative Action in india after a survey done by the Indian government wherin they did find out that Muslims are discriminated and also fro the Dalits they want to do the same.
You are confusing issues again....Lets stick to talking about dalits without bringing Muslims into the discussion. These are two separate issues.
You are confusing issues again....Lets stick to talking about dalits without bringing Muslims into the discussion. These are two separate issues.
To you not to me :)
Its about Affirmitive Action right?
And both of the groups: Muslims and Dalits are systematicly discrimiated daily in India of Mr. Gandhi.
If you want to discuss Affirmative Action in general or discrimination against Muslims, open a separate thread & we can discuss there. I'd rather not digress from the topic here.
There is no proof that its fake, but even if it is - its still shows the truth behind reservations in a funny way
I don’t need to be jealous - I got wherever I did on merit and despite reservations for backwards classes, not by taking a seat/job that belongs to someone else
I agree - reservations have nothing to do with merit. Thats the reason non-meritorious/non-deserving candidates get admissions to prestigious colleges that they are unqualified for.
As for righting the wrongs of the past, one can go back in history & think of so many wrongs that have been committed & try and right them. How about Jews killing Germans because of the holocaust or Hindus demolishing Muslim mosques in India becaue Muslim rulers demolished temples ?
Bottomline is that unless you provide grassroots education & support to the backward classes, they will always stay backward. Giving college admissions/jobs to undeserving youth will neither improve their lot, nor benefit the country. All it will do is get them dependent on “freebies” (also known as “muft ki roti”)
Dude, its great that your father benefited from reservation and got into the IFS. I am guessing that you had a pretty privilged life and access to good schools etc.
However, if you wanted to get admission in IIT, you would still get the benefit of reservation based on your last name/caste. Ever thought what kind of stupid logic that is.
How has your upbringing been any different than that of an “upper caste” ? Infact, you have probably grown up in a much more affluent background than a poor brahmin (upper caste) who does pujas at people’s homes to support his family. But you get the reservation and he does not
Don't worry, dost !! I was not brought up to be a "*muftkhor" *and take whats not rightfully mine ;)
Yah Allah i am extra Qurbaan at you today
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come and let me hug you
so that means from now onwards you will fight for the Kashmir rights for SELF-determination and their right to have plebiscite??
And raise your voice against human rights violations not only in Pakistan (so nice of u that u do that) in Kashmir and Gujrat and other parts of India?
My upbringing has always been upper middle class and Yes, if I was in India I would have definitely used reservations because it is my right under the Indian constitution.
There you go !! Thats why I think reservation policy/affirmative action in India sucks It does not benefit the people who need it most, and instead is used by folks like yourself who do not need it but still consider it their “right under the Indian constitution”.
Have you ever thought that its “dalits” like yourself who are not allowing the benfit of reservations to go those “dalits” who actually need it ? And then people talk about upper castes suppressing the “dalits”
Punjabi, no use arguing about something which is not gonna change! Those who have it will support it, those who don't will oppose it........When it comes to being united we Indians r like a mixture of oil and water...thanx to Pakistan for giving us a few moments of unity!
If the quotas r changed to a financial basis , govt will lose a vote bank....and that's never gonna happen!
Ha ve u taken this stuff from pindi courses?Then Not only Dalits even Muslims in Pakistan will laugh at it my friend..........
I do not see a gist in this post
Mohandas Karamchand has always been on "high caste" hindus' side. He was heavily influenced by Nehru and co. and was never ready to consider Dalits equal to Brahmins or others.
This is the reason why Dalits never actually liked Mohandas Karamchand.
