Re: Why do girls lie about having had boyfriends ?
^ And if girls are stupid enough to fall for these traps and get lured into beds that easily, sorry but they deserve such men. Remember, it takes two to tango...
Most of them are very young and vunerable, they're promised marriage and a lifetime committment... guys aren't that innocent u know (Im not saying girls are either) I'm not turning it into a boys vs girls thread... but it happens!
Most of them are very young and vunerable, they're promised marriage and a lifetime committment... guys aren't that innocent u know (Im not saying girls are either) I'm not turning it into a boys vs girls thread... but it happens!
But that's exactly what it looks like from the statements.
Everyone is accountable for their own actions. Unless a girl is raped, or is extorted into sleeping with some guy, she is as much responsible as the guy is. I wouldn't buy the 'promised marriage and lifetime commitment' reason. Firstly because that's stupidity on their part. Secondly if they're really that young, naive and vulnerable, they should be focusing on education, and GROWING UP rather than marriage and commitment, not to mention getting knocked up in the process.
Thats exactly what it LOOKS like, but it's not.. browse thru my other posts on the other thread as well =) it's easy to point fingers at females and say "if they're naive they shud be focusing on education..." And what about the guys that are occupied in chatting-up such girls as well? I've always said..let sumone's past be! Yes, they are responsible..and they are answerable.
Ujji, when people are young they make mistakes. Thats what youth is all about: Making mistakes you will hopefully never make again. Dont you have regrets about things you've done in youth? If you dont, congrats! You're perfect! Most girls who get sweet-talked into it do it when they are young and naive. They dont know any better and really do end up believing this guy will marry them. And then he doesnt and she is left with the aftermath to deal with.
No one really bothers to ask a guy if he is a virigin or not but the pressure is always on the girl to be a virgin. Interesting, isnt it? Its almost understood that men can be with dozens of women if they want but a woman is considered unclean if she does the same.
I actually know a family like that. They are three boys and one girl. The mom is okay the with the boys dating but literally locks up her daughter if she steps out of the house. One of the boys ended up going out with this girl for over 6 years!!! That is a long time to be together. The mom not only knew but met the girl often. She knew they were dating all their teenage years but when it came time for marriage, she said no to the girl. The mom said she didnt trust a girl who hangs out with guys before marriage. Her son didnt fight back either. He merely informed the poor girl and said Bubye.
She is married now to a really nice guy, Mashallah. But that time was sooooo difficult for her and I remember even seeing her at a gathering, she looked so pale and heartbroken. That is a hard pill to swallow, isnt it? You depend on this person who talks of laying the world at your feet and then he is gone.
You guys want girls to tell the truth but do you see how hard it is to fight these double standards set for us? Its difficult.
I know judging from my posts I seem to be some sort of bitter feminatzi. But Im not. I know their are good guys out there and I hope to find one of them, Inshallah.
PSquared, I am a girl and i know how difficult it is to fight double standards but that is a separate issue. While u are on that issue, u are painting a picture of girls as weak brainless beings who could never do anything wrong on their own and by doing that u are reinforcing and justifying that same two faced soceity. In that case, that mom u mentioned had a valid reason to lock up her young daughter. In that case, when a girl lies to cover up her past in order to marry a guy supporting tht two-faced society, then she too is supporting that society.
Women are individuals with brains, can detect the difference between right and wrong, and are responsible for their wrong actions just as they are for their right actions. There are young boys and girls who fall for temptation and there are also young girls and boys who resist it. Unless u are talking about child abuse---which applies to young boys as well, I don't see the point of ur logic.
But forget all that---how the girl managed to devilishly or innocently make the decision to have sex or make out with some guy is irrelevant. That she has or has not repented is also irrelevant.
The only thing that is relevant, is that no guy or girl has the right to deceive someone into marrying him or her. That certain non-virgin men turn down girls for not being virgin is hypocritical but it is a SEPARATE, IRRELEVANT issue. Past issues regarding virginity (unless its a case of rape) are important because they can reflect on a person's ability to resist temptation and peer pressure, their morals, and on whether or not that person can make decisions as an independent human being. There is nothing wrong with asking a to-be-marriage partner about it, and if that partner doesn't like being asked this, that partner doesn't need to answer or marry the person asking it.
And btw, I do bother to ask guys whether they're virgin or not :) I will definitely not settle for a non-virgin.
PSquared, I am a girl and i know how difficult it is to fight double standards but that is a separate issue. While u are on that issue, u are painting a picture of girls as weak brainless beings who could never do anything wrong on their own and by doing that u are reinforcing and justifying that same two faced soceity. In that case, that mom u mentioned had a valid reason to lock up her young daughter. In that case, when a girl lies to cover up her past in order to marry a guy supporting tht two-faced society, then she too is supporting that society.
Women are individuals with brains, can detect the difference between right and wrong, and are responsible for their wrong actions just as they are for their right actions. There are young boys and girls who fall for temptation and there are also young girls and boys who resist it. Unless u are talking about child abuse---which applies to young boys as well, I don't see the point of ur logic.
But forget all that---how the girl managed to devilishly or innocently make the decision to have sex or make out with some guy is irrelevant. That she has or has not repented is also irrelevant.
The only thing that is relevant, is that no guy or girl has the right to deceive someone into marrying him or her. That certain non-virgin men turn down girls for not being virgin is hypocritical but it is a SEPARATE, IRRELEVANT issue. Past issues regarding virginity (unless its a case of rape) are important because they can reflect on a person's ability to resist temptation and peer pressure, their morals, and on whether or not that person can make decisions as an independent human being. There is nothing wrong with asking a to-be-marriage partner about it, and if that partner doesn't like being asked this, that partner doesn't need to answer or marry the person asking it.
My apologies, I assumed you were a guy. I got confused by your nick I guess.
I do understand what you are saying above. And Im not trying to paint women as brainless idiots. Im trying to show the tendencies of YOUTH. Thats it.
No one has the right to lie or deceive anyone into thinking they've never been with another man...but the question here is: why do they? Thats what we're trying to answer. Of course it shouldnt happen but WHY does it happen?
Dude even if you are being funny in all your posts in this thread, I really believe you need some serious help. ------------------------- -----------
If you love too much to your girl friend ... and you love only her ... and she says to you that since she is having good circle of friends and she has to give time to all of them... then....
You will also become funny..
And the things which I know ... actually you don't know...
Do you really know how much besharam girls have become these days...???
haram zadiyan .... sexy movies dekh dekh k girls k dimagh kharab ho chuke hain... I am seeming funny to you... i m telling you kel ko innocent looking girl friends apne boy friends ko iss liye chorra kaerain gi k on ko apne boy friends ka penis size pasand nahi aaya ho ga...
abhi i dont hav time... shall comne here laters
Re: Why do girls lie about having had boyfriends ?
Do you know there are girls in Pakistan ... who believe that girls are superior to boys and boys should obey girls and boys are like dogs and slaves of girls...??? do you know it...???
Do you know that there are in Pakistan ... many stupid boys ... who feel pride in becoming dogs and slaves of those girls....???
First go and get to know what is going on around here.... then call me funny.... girls are demanding "freedom" for them... my foot... they are not able enough to be given any freedom!
If you love too much to your girl friend ... and you love only her ... and she says to you that since she is having good circle of friends and she has to give time to all of them... then....
You will also become funny..
And the things which I know ... actually you don't know...
Do you really know how much besharam girls have become these days...???
haram zadiyan .... sexy movies dekh dekh k girls k dimagh kharab ho chuke hain... I am seeming funny to you... i m telling you kel ko innocent looking girl friends apne boy friends ko iss liye chorra kaerain gi k on ko apne boy friends ka penis size pasand nahi aaya ho ga...
abhi i dont hav time... shall comne here laters
I would be really surprised if no action is taken from Mods'/Admin's side real soon. this is quite disturbing.
Re: Why do girls lie about having had boyfriends ?
and girls should lie .... my girl friend told me truth... that she loved someone in past ... i listened.... then she often remembered him before me... i didn't say anything to her... I only thought kaash ye os ko sirf apne khayalon main he yaad ker liya kere ... tolerate ker loon ga... after all first love for every girl is a reality.... Lakin every time she remembered him ... i felt bad.... i think it better that she should have told lie... wo jhoot bol leti... sirf apne khayalon main os ko yaad rakh leti... i felt always bad whenever she told me the truth....
Girls should be careful in their life.... and they always should project their innocence before husband ... even if they are not innocents...!
Re: Why do girls lie about having had boyfriends ?
actually boys are very innocent... they cannot understand that innocent looking girls may not be innocent... i also did the same mistake!
Hi... tum girl ho kya...???
Want to have relations with me...???
Janu jhoot bol lena apne hone wale husband se.
Mera kya hai ... main to apni hone wali wife ko mazaq mazaq main sab kuch bata he doon ga:)
Now try to feel it....!!!!!!!
MEIN JO BHI HOUN.....AGARR AAP MARD HEIN...TOU ZRRA MERE EMAIL ADDRESS PE TASHREEF LAIEYAY--AUR APNA ASALL HUDOOD O HARBA BATAIEYEN----KE MEIN AAPKI TABIYATT SAAF KAROUN....KIYONKE MEINE AAP JAISE MOTHER-PIDDAR AZAAD (DARPOOK) KI TARHAAN APNA NAAM PSEUDONYM NAHIN KIYA HAI...!!
MEIN AAPKE WALED-E-BUZURGWAAR KI UMRR KA (YA SHAYAD UNSE BARRA...BALKE YAQEENAN BARRA..KIYONKE AAP JAISI AULAD ALLAH KICI KO NA DE) AAP KI UMRR KI AULAD KA BAAP HOON....
SORRY...I DONT BECOME FRIENDS WITH EUNUCHS !
Re: Why do girls lie about having had boyfriends ?
i m telling my right hadood arba …
I am Khuram. My all hadood arba is in my site:
Meri tabiyat saaf kerni hai to welcome … I am not afraid of anything!
Because whatever I say … I don’t say without positive intention and solid reason!
See my last sentence … “Now try to feel it”…
It was what I wanted to teach you! My opinion was right… boys can tell truth or lie…
But girls should be careful in these matters! Thats all
Re: Why do girls lie about having had boyfriends ?
aur aap chahe meri baap ki umer jitne hon ... meri tabiyat aap saaf nahi ker sakain gay... its my challenge!
U're posts say everything..iceburg. Doubt u'll get any reaction or response from anyone now.. tsk tsk!
If you love too much to your girl friend ... and you love only her ... and she says to you that since she is having good circle of friends and she has to give time to all of them... then....
You will also become funny..
And the things which I know ... actually you don't know...
Do you really know how much besharam girls have become these days...???
haram zadiyan .... sexy movies dekh dekh k girls k dimagh kharab ho chuke hain... I am seeming funny to you... i m telling you kel ko innocent looking girl friends apne boy friends ko iss liye chorra kaerain gi k on ko apne boy friends ka penis size pasand nahi aaya ho ga...
abhi i dont hav time... shall comne here laters
I think aap satiya gaye hein...apne dimagh ka ilaj karvaiye pehle.
If you cant speak in a civilized manner then you dont deserve to be addressed in a civilized manner either.
Please dont make people uncomfortable with your lack of decorum, manners and proper upbringing.
The problem with men like you is SIMPLE: you date, you get burned and then you blame the world for your own mistakes. When you date, you do something wrong. Meaning, you're going against Allah's wishes. HOW ON EARTH CAN YOU EXPECT ANYTHING GOOD TO COME OUT OF THAT?
Take responsibility for your own mistakes and stop complaining here.
No one is perfect but at least have the decency to shut up and suck it up if you did something wrong!
Do you know there are girls in Pakistan ... who believe that girls are superior to boys and boys should obey girls and boys are like dogs and slaves of girls...??? do you know it...???
Do you know that there are in Pakistan ... many stupid boys ... who feel pride in becoming dogs and slaves of those girls....???
First go and get to know what is going on around here.... then call me funny.... girls are demanding "freedom" for them... my foot... they are not able enough to be given any freedom!
Do you know there are men in Pakistan who have the nerve to demand their wife cook for them??? Do you know in Pakistan some men expect their wives to act like a slave to them? This is more often the case than the one you mentioned above.
You have a serious problem...you need to get over your ex-girlfriend and MOVE ON.
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Dear PSquard,,,
Actually you do not know me ... You cannot be a better advocate of gender equality than me. My that girl friend knows it very well. Even she herself cannot be better advocate of gender equality than me. She knows it well. I have given link to this debate to her also. She knows what is going on in this thread.,.. But she is silent ... She knows she was wrong and now whatever I am doing ... I am doing right...
And whatever men demand from women ... they do right .... but what girls do as I mentioned above ... they do EVIL.
First come on to my level then try to suggest something to me! Otherwise you should only listen what I am saying!
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And ... I don't complaint things before others ... I can fight for my cause myself!