Why Chaman is not Bordeaux, and Balochistan is not a tourist destination like France

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Chaman is the garden of Balochistan and even Pakistan. What do we do with the top notch verities of grapes there? Nothing much!

Chaman could have been the Bordeaux, Burgundy, or Provence if Balochis (Sardars and commoners) would develop the techniques to plant better grapes and develop new drinks.

New cheeses, drinks, and tourist environment would have turned Balochistan to be the ultimate tourist destination.

Unfortunately Balochistan is being turned into a land-mine infested Ahhghanistan instead of a peaceful tourist friendly France.

Sad utterly sad.

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Chaman is a dry port for grapes and Anar etc. that are imported from Afghanistan and then get distrubuted to the rest of the country. Chaman is a dry mountainous area on the border and entirely Pashtuns not a single baluch live there. Chaman has no vegetation and centainly no orchards. When you hear some thing in "fruit mandies" of lahore and Karachi that this grapes are from Chaman it's actually from chaman dry port.

Jusk look it your post and ask yourself how knowledgeable are you.

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It is because he is a teenager who doesn't live in Pakistan and get's his information typically from family friends and 'uncles'.

As you just proved, much of this info is BS

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Off course Chaman was being used as a metaphor. What you are saying is that Balochistan doesn't have any vineyards or orchids. Everything comes there from Afghanistan. Wow. What a knowledgeable fruit case! (off course from Ahhghanistan).

p.s. You used the term “graphs” twice. There is no such fruit as graphs, we call them grapes.

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He made some constructive criticism over you lack of knowledge, and backed it up with facts which proved it.

You should learn from it and move on instead of making excuses and concentrating on typos. For your own sake.

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Constructive criticism or nitpicking? What part of his utterances will help "construct" Balochistan?

This thread is about tourism and local fruits and other products. So far I hear are the lame excuses that Balochistan doesn't have anything. Everything comes form Afghanistan.

Yeah right! That sure is constructive!

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antibiol let’s make a deal as you like the west and wine, and tourist take my french passport..i’ll take your pakistan one, as I don’t like wine (good muslims don’t drink:halo:)…and have no likeness of the western women fashion (less clothes=upper class:clown:)…deal?:smiley:

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Deal! Dunno how I am gonna satisfy the immigration officers that I am in fact the Noor from Paris. What the heck we can give a try.

On a serious note, I picked France not for wine or women fashion. They may make France bit more interesting but they won't make the country tourist friendly.

French people are proud of their culture, their language, and art. Sort of proud Balochis who are proud of Balochi culture, language (and whatever art is there).

Still the proud French have established something where guests (not just family guests) can come and feel comfortable. Paris may have ills common to big cities, but outside Paris it is a world of difference.

In fact I highly recommend you get out of Paris and visit St. Malo. I am sure you haven't gone there yet. Take the TGV from Montparnasse to Rennes. Make sure you travel first class. It is lot more fun.

From Rennes, take the local train and be in St. Malo. Once you are there, sit on the beach and ponder why France has achieved so much while Balochis are killing those who want to build Gawader.

p.s. Off course doing a pilgrimage to Mont St. Michel will be a an added bonus. Omelets at La Mère Poulard are just superb.

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I had tons of classes about french history and geography in shool:halo:..obvioulsy…so i know why france has achieved more:Dit has the BEST climate in europe according to agriculture…and one of the greatest variety in terms of agriculture proucts…due to different subclimate with a samll area..thus allowing the country..though small scale trade to be rich and diverse:)

climate of Balochistan?:confused:…in my mind it is a semi desertic place…but i googled:halo:
i found this : “Balochistan is located at the eastern edge of the Iranian plateau and in the difficult to define border region between Southwest, Central, and South Asia. It is geographically the largest of the four provinces at 347,190 km² and composes 42% of the total land area of Pakistan. The population density is very low due to the mountainous terrain and scarcity of water. The southern region is known as Makran. A region in the centre of the province is known as Kalat.”:Dseems i was right…

i’m sorry but there is no chocolate in life…the wealth of a place fist depends on its natural ressources…unfortunately Balochistan lacks the most precious one: WATER:halo:

ps: human body as well as most creature is moslty composed of water;)

Toofan a gaya...
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Need to get out of class room education and see the real France dear.

St. Malo has a unique place in the history and business trade of France. Just google it and you will find.

Excuses! Excuses! Excuses.

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I’m real french and live in real france like my real french family and I am FROM BRITANY my dear :rolleyes: obviously i have heard about saint malo and mont saint michel..my parents went there on holidays and i watched numerous documentary on those places :rolleyes:
The wealth of Saint malo was built thanks to maritme skills of my britanian ancestors…who due to a harsher climate than some other part of france had to resort to fisheries for a living…but soon their boats allowed them to build bigger boats…thanks to money from agriculture and trade in europe also…they could become traders in all sees…BUT saint malo is know as “la cité corsaire”…because Corsair is a term refering to the marine people employed by the french kingdom to protect its boat against piratery:)

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Beautiful area. You are so fortunate.

well I suppose you ought to go there by yourself. Or the parents won't allow you?

Good googling.

However you missed the important aspect. French people built St. Malo to be the head quarter of French East India Company. St. Malo also produced the guy who discovered Canada (google it and you will find the name).

While St. Malo was used to increase the wealth for the region, in Balochistan the anarchists are destroying or stopping the development of Gawadar.

So the difference is in the attitude. One nation builds its ports while other puts mines in its ports.

Sad isn't it?

say what? how hard is it to eat unhealthy!!!!!
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I did NOT google i knew it from a program called thalassa (sea in greek:D) that is on tv each friday nights in france…

Whila Saint Malo was backed by a rich kingdom…balochistaan is backed by:confused:…a desert:D:halo:

you missed my point again :rolleyes:

when will americans understand that earth is OUR most precious treasure…natural ressources the BASEGROUND of ALL economy..and that NOTHING can be made out of air (except liquid air:Dof course:halo:)

seriously i remind you of the structure of economy:
three levels:

primary one is natural ressources, such as mining (oil,gas, minerals, gravels, sand…), fisheries, hunting, harvesting, lodging, husbandfarming and agriculture

second one is produced by the transformation of raw products from the primary sector, these are mainly hand made products and industrial products. The vast majority of these productiuns requires both raw material AND energy (also provided by raw material…but important point to note!)

third ones are services, like travel, nursing or teaching: these activities requires materials to take place and be rewarded.

so if you follow the chain, you have understood that third and second sectors (who made up most of today’s trade in value $$$ ££££ €€€€ :wink: ) TOTALLY depend on the health of the primary sector!! Hence the wealth of a country first and foremost depend of the availibility of the NATURAL RESSOURCES …only high work and intelligent mind can overcome natural hassles to become a properous country…but even thos arguing Japan is an exeption…totally misses that this volcanic country ois vERY fertile for rice (rich food source) and in a fish rich environement

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Hmmm........so the Balochi fruit comes from Afghanistan actually, never knew that.
BTW, did you guys know that the gas we use comes from Afghanistan as well rather than Balochistan???? We Pakistanis are surely living in the dark :)

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It should be pretty obvious to you, but you still come up with excuses and lame claims.

He said simply you shouldn’t talk about something you don’t know about.

Another point of course would be that you actually think that an area in Pakistan should make wine…and you think this is realistic and right? :rolleyes:

You have a lot to learn, but as you are young, you think you know everything.
Stick to your schoolwork, and maybe in a few years you will mature and realize.

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lame attempt

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:confused:Balochistan is a well known gas province:D:

Economy

The economy of the province is largely based upon the production of natural gas, coal and minerals. The province’s natural resources significantly help to meet the energy needs of Pakistan as a whole, but mainly benefit Pashtun mine workers as opposed to the more nomadic Baluch. Infrastructure outside of Quetta is still in development as is the province as a whole. Tourism remains limited but has increased due to the exotic appeal of the province. Limited farming in the east as well as fishing along the Arabian Sea coastline are other forms of income and sustenance for the local populations.
Due to the tribal lifestyle of many Baluch and Brahui, animal husbandry is important as are trading bazaars found throughout the province.
Though the province remains underdeveloped, changes are coming as plans for pipelines running from Iran to India as well Central Asian pipelines are all envisioned to be built in Balochistan.

from wikipedia

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I will make some changes to Malakand’s First post and it will make MUCH more sense:

Chaman is a dry port for** Heroin** and Charas etc. that are imported from Afghanistan and then get distrubuted to the rest of the country. Chaman is a dry mountainous area on the border and entirely Pashtuns not a single baluch live there. Chaman has no vegetation and centainly no orchards. When you hear some thing in “Heroin centres” of lahore and Karachi that this DRUGS are from Chaman it’s actually from Afghanistan.

:cb::cb:

Seriously, i always thought most of the fruit comes from Balochistan.
Maybe you guys are right about some of it coming from Afghanistan but don’t think ALL the fruit comes from Afghaniland.

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Khawaja ka gawah Daddu (A little fly-eating frog acting like an offical-witness for a Kommie).
If he had a point, he should be able to defend it. Why do you have to work 24 as his official rep. Is that part of duties assigned by Kabul?

Him or yourself should have wherewithal and resources to travel. Then travel to France and travel through Balochistan. Talk to people instead of staying in the mosques like those Tabligi fakirs / darvishes.

Jumping up and down and trying to prove that Balochistan can't produce fruit simply proves your hatred for the region.

Look at the title of the thread and discuss please.

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First people from NWFP and Blochistan dont like tourists. NWFP just accept it as it does generate revenue and jobs for the common folk.
there has never been a provincial effort to market remarkable areas as tourist attractions.

though we do have national tourism department too, who bloody works as bus service than the actual tourism development.

same goes to Punjab tourism (again a bus service)

PTC, PTDC or STC if such exist in Blochistan too, they should facilitate and make stretegies rather than running a transport company.