Why can't you criticise

[TLK]

Can we criticize Taliban, or are we still stuck with ‘there are good Taliban and there are bad Taliban’?

[Monk]

Re: Why can’t you criticise

talking to me ?

[diwana]

Re: Why can’t you criticise

@OneYourMomWarnedAbt

You mean Muslims in Pakistan. What about the Muslims that were left behind in India? Don’t give me the **BS **that they should have migrated to Pakistan, coz it is not always feasible; for eg. Muslims in parts of India like Hyderabad, Gulbarga, Malabar, Assam etc. If you want to speak for yourself, your family, your mohalla etc, go ahead and do it. But don’t try to speak for all the Muslims in the subcontinent as if you know and pretend to care. Coz the subcontinent includes those muslims that were discriminated/harassed in the places I mentioned above and also the ones in Srilanka ( where LTTE tried to ‘eliminate’ them ) . For all of them partition just weakened them and they lost all clout because of it.

First: Do not ever again ‘assume’ I would talk BS.

You have to wait for someone to say something before jumping to answer on your own assumption. Understood?

Now:

You made up one conclusion of Muslims becoming weak because of division.

But in saying that, you actually are supporting the discrimination against those Muslims as well as agreeing that any sufferings of those Muslims simply becomes justified merely because of division ad them becoming minority.

How much wrong can you be!?

[TLK]

@Monk:10211100

talking to me ?

Were you listening?

Nah, I was just babbling in general, the way I always do

[OYMWA]

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@diwana

First: Do not ever again ‘assume’ I would talk BS.

I don’t have to assume. You ARE full of ****. There is not one coherent thought or idea in any of your posts.

Case in point:

You have to wait for someone to say something before jumping to answer on your own assumption. Understood?

Now:

You made up one conclusion of Muslims becoming weak because of division.

But in saying that, you actually are supporting the discrimination against those Muslims as well as agreeing that any sufferings of those Muslims simply becomes justified merely because of division ad them becoming minority.

How much wrong can you be!?

what nonsense is this?

[diwana]

Re: Why can’t you criticise

@OneYourMomWarnedAbt

I don’t have to assume. You ARE full of ****. There is not one coherent thought or idea in any of your posts.

Case in point:

what nonsense is this?

Sorry, but I must ask you if you were born an idiot or worked hard to become one?

Why be so sentimental and aggressive?

First you used word as BS, then this post.

Let me help you understand if its of any worth, that, when you said somehow Muslims living in certain area had to suffer because of division. That is absurd!

You need to condemn sufferings of Muslims in India and the aggressors or discriminators regardless.

Did you get that now, or English really is not your forte?

[Southie]

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@Monk

talking to me ?

Should I be?

[muqawwee123]

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@Monk

no.
It just remind me when I was 16 years old, what ever I read, I wanted to put forth as argument with every one. Then I learn censor non sense my self first.
Simple.

Good for you. But I don’t agree to to this fascism imposed from within just because certain holy cows will be slaughtered.

[P_G]

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@TLK

Can we criticize Taliban, or are we still stuck with ‘there are good Taliban and there are bad Taliban’?

jo Allah ki hudood ko toray ga woh ghalat hai … jurm ki saza mujrim ko dee jayeee itna andha behra honay ki zaroorat nahi k us main mujrim or ghair -e mujrim sub ko jaalana shuroo ker dain…

[TLK]

@P_G:10211200

[quote="“TLK, post:173, topic:328320"”]

Can we criticize Taliban, or are we still stuck with ‘there are good Taliban and there are bad Taliban’?

jo Allah ki hudood ko toray ga woh ghalat hai … jurm ki saza mujrim ko dee jayeee itna andha behra honay ki zaroorat nahi k us main mujrim or ghair -e mujrim sub ko jaalana shuroo ker dain…
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Tou phir achchay Taliban ek bayan kyun nahi jaari kerte ke is zulm o dehshat ka hum se koi taaluq nahi? Aap kyun oon kee wakalat kerti hain? Wo khud kyun nahi kerte?

[P_G]

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@TLK

Tou phir achchay Taliban ek bayan kyun nahi jaari kerte ke is zulm o dehshat ka hum se koi taaluq nahi? Aap kyun oon kee wakalat kerti hain? Wo khud kyun nahi kerte?

TLK > main koi wakalat nahi ker rahee … mojooda waqt main TTP jis bhi tanzeem ka nam hai ya is nam per jo log yeh sub shar fasaad ker rahay hain sub wajib ul qatal or wajib ul laanat hain ..yeh her muslman kehta or samjhta hai

or jis TTP ko hum nay acha kaha tha yeh woh mujaahideen thay jo afghanistan main honay walay jihaad k waqt samnay ayee thay agar un ka koi group ajj bhi usee ikhlas -e- neyat k sath is ser zameen per mojood hay to mai un ko acha he kahon gee ..

haan lakin waqt ka taqaza hay k agar un k NAM per Fasaadi paida ho rahay hain to is naam ka Tag apnay opper say hata dain ..takay jihaad ka aqeeda or islam k nam per ghalat taasur na phaylay

mujhay khud is bat per confusion hay k agar saree TTP ik hee hay to TTP pakistan or TTP afghanistan or woh TTP jis ko R.A.W chalaati hai yeh naam kis terah wujood main ayee? yeh kion kaha ja raha hay k kal ka attack R.A.W k zair-e-saya palnay walee TTP nay kia ,?? is say to saaf pata chalta hay k sirf Jihaad k aqeeda khatam kernay k lay islam dushmanoo nay is tanzeem k NAM per apnay logon ko yahan bhaij diya hay ..takay muslman khud bhi jihaad k aqeeday ko ghalat samjhain or duniya main bhi is ko dehshat gerde samjha jayee …beharhal…islam mai zameen per fasaad phalanay ki koi gunjaaish nahi to main bhi isee ki qaail hoon

2>baqee mainy jo yeh kaha k andhay behray ban ker sub ko na jaalain to is ko app nay shaid Wakaalat samjha jub k maira ishara peshawer attack k baad loogon k samanay anay walay raweye ki teraf hai.. PA forum k thread main .kisi post main khamkha Molvioon ko bura keh diya ..kisi post main LAL masjid k talib e ilmoon ko dehshat gerd ker diya …k un ko marna bilkul theek tha or Musharraf k khilaf action laina ghalat tha …

yanee jo bachay School main perhain gay woh bachay bhi hon gay or insan bhi or jo bachay madaris main perhain gay choonkay un k zahire huleye TTP jaysay hain to woh ab bachay hain na insan bus dehshat gerd hain un ko marnay per kisi ko insaniyat ka dukh nahi …yahan tah k kaafir k bachay bhi bachay hain bus madaaris k talib-e- ilm bachay nahi ?

Malala k haadsay per sub nay insaniayt or ik school girl per attack sub nay awaz uthayee//use saal ik madrasay k 6 student ko ise terah target ker k mara gaya …sirf media nay ilk line ki khabar chalayee k Logoon ka is per koi reaction he nahi ana or yahan GS per main thread khola to ik banday nay bhi inna lilahi wa ia ilyhi rajioon ki dua na perhee …sub madrasa molvi k khilaaf bol rahay thay yahan tak keh diya molvi sub ko maar ker marain gay …in k nazdeek shaid ab molvi insan bhi nahi rahay !

yeh hota hay Andha behra hona… hamaray muslmanoo k Aqaaid or nazariyaat itnay kamzoor hain k media or kufaar ki saazishoon per bantay or badaltay hain …

[mahool]

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@P_G lal masjid kay molvion ki harkatain bhi to bohat shandar hian… abhi kal aik video main mazamat karany jaan ja rahi hia… aesay molvion ko sar e aam phansi deni chahiye…

aesay logon ki wajah say mulk ki badnami hoti hia.. yeh log konsay islam ko parhtay hian… meray nabi (saw) ka dil to bohat naram tha.. aur yeh ttp walay masom bachon ko tak nahi chorty hian…

[TLK]

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[quote=““P_G””]
bus yehi tou him bhi keh rahay hain. Fuzool main aap ne itna lumba choraa lecture de daala

And PG, it’s really sad that you did not see any Inna Lilah for the madrasa kids, lekin agar awaam kee baizaariyat deeni halqon se itni barh gayee hai, tou iss kee saree zimmadaari awaam pe nahi jaati. Iss kee zimmadari scholars pe jaati hai. Yeah swaal qayamat ke roz oon se bhi hogaa ke kyun tum ne logon ko mazhab se itnaa bezaar kar diya thaa. I tell you why. Multiple firqay, calling themselves real Muslim and calling everyone else kaafir. Molvi saying that pak army ke foji shaheed nahi aur oon ke namaze janaaza jaiz nahi. Jub chand daarhi walay Allah o Akbar ka naara lagaa ke begunaah logon KO qatal kerain, to khullam khulla muzaamat ke bajaaay, tamam molvi napay tulay dhakay chupay alfaaz main aayain baayain shaayain bayannat dete rahay. Mera bachcha mar rahaa hai, aur aap kee zahiran hamdadiyaan Marne wale ke saath hain, tou main bezaar hee hoon ga naa aap se.

[Monk]

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@muqawwee123

Good for you. But I don’t agree to to this fascism imposed from within just because certain holy cows will be slaughtered.

You are like a king of giving twist to words.
But term is pretty silly. Like oxymoron.

[muqawwee123]

Re: Why can’t you criticise

@Monk

You are like a king of giving twist to words.
But term is pretty silly. Like oxymoron.

Thanks for appreciating my talent

[muqawwee123]

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@mahool

@P_G lal masjid kay molvion ki harkatain bhi to bohat shandar hian… abhi kal aik video main mazamat karany jaan ja rahi hia… aesay molvion ko sar e aam phansi deni chahiye…

aesay logon ki wajah say mulk ki badnami hoti hia.. yeh log konsay islam ko parhtay hian… meray nabi (saw) ka dil to bohat naram tha.. aur yeh ttp walay masom bachon ko tak nahi chorty hian…

o bhai aap ne TTP ki judtification nahin paRhi ke Huzaaor (SAW) ne khud Bani Qureza ke bachon ko maarne ke ihkaam diye the. They quoted Bukhari for the reference. hor choopo.

[diwana]

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@P_G

TLK > main koi wakalat nahi ker rahee … mojooda waqt main TTP jis bhi tanzeem ka nam hai ya is nam per jo log yeh sub shar fasaad ker rahay hain sub wajib ul qatal or wajib ul laanat hain ..yeh her muslman kehta or samjhta hai

or jis TTP ko hum nay acha kaha tha yeh woh mujaahideen thay jo afghanistan main honay walay jihaad k waqt samnay ayee thay agar un ka koi group ajj bhi usee ikhlas -e- neyat k sath is ser zameen per mojood hay to mai un ko acha he kahon gee ..

haan lakin waqt ka taqaza hay k agar un k NAM per Fasaadi paida ho rahay hain to is naam ka Tag apnay opper say hata dain ..takay jihaad ka aqeeda or islam k nam per ghalat taasur na phaylay

mujhay khud is bat per confusion hay k agar saree TTP ik hee hay to TTP pakistan or TTP afghanistan or woh TTP jis ko R.A.W chalaati hai yeh naam kis terah wujood main ayee? yeh kion kaha ja raha hay k kal ka attack R.A.W k zair-e-saya palnay walee TTP nay kia ,?? is say to saaf pata chalta hay k sirf Jihaad k aqeeda khatam kernay k lay islam dushmanoo nay is tanzeem k NAM per apnay logon ko yahan bhaij diya hay ..takay muslman khud bhi jihaad k aqeeday ko ghalat samjhain or duniya main bhi is ko dehshat gerde samjha jayee …beharhal…islam mai zameen per fasaad phalanay ki koi gunjaaish nahi to main bhi isee ki qaail hoon

2>baqee mainy jo yeh kaha k andhay behray ban ker sub ko na jaalain to is ko app nay shaid Wakaalat samjha jub k maira ishara peshawer attack k baad loogon k samanay anay walay raweye ki teraf hai.. PA forum k thread main .kisi post main khamkha Molvioon ko bura keh diya ..kisi post main LAL masjid k talib e ilmoon ko dehshat gerd ker diya …k un ko marna bilkul theek tha or Musharraf k khilaf action laina ghalat tha …

yanee jo bachay School main perhain gay woh bachay bhi hon gay or insan bhi or jo bachay madaris main perhain gay choonkay un k zahire huleye TTP jaysay hain to woh ab bachay hain na insan bus dehshat gerd hain un ko marnay per kisi ko insaniyat ka dukh nahi …yahan tah k kaafir k bachay bhi bachay hain bus madaaris k talib-e- ilm bachay nahi ?

Malala k haadsay per sub nay insaniayt or ik school girl per attack sub nay awaz uthayee//use saal ik madrasay k 6 student ko ise terah target ker k mara gaya …sirf media nay ilk line ki khabar chalayee k Logoon ka is per koi reaction he nahi ana or yahan GS per main thread khola to ik banday nay bhi inna lilahi wa ia ilyhi rajioon ki dua na perhee …sub madrasa molvi k khilaaf bol rahay thay yahan tak keh diya molvi sub ko maar ker marain gay …in k nazdeek shaid ab molvi insan bhi nahi rahay !

yeh hota hay Andha behra hona… hamaray muslmanoo k Aqaaid or nazariyaat itnay kamzoor hain k media or kufaar ki saazishoon per bantay or badaltay hain …

Most definitely the post of year!

You should be given award for speaking so eloquently and clearly.

Ek Ek Harf Umda Tareeqay Se Istemal Kia Hai Aap Ne. Baat Bhi Kaafi Sach Kahi Hai.

Aap Ka Dhaaga Nazar Se NAhin Guzra. Maazrat Khuwah Hoon.

[P_G]

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@TLK

bus yehi tou him bhi keh rahay hain. Fuzool main aap ne itna lumba choraa lecture de daala

And PG, it’s really sad that you did not see any Inna Lilah for the madrasa kids, lekin agar awaam kee baizaariyat deeni halqon se itni barh gayee hai, tou iss kee saree zimmadaari awaam pe nahi jaati. Iss kee zimmadari scholars pe jaati hai. Yeah swaal qayamat ke roz oon se bhi hogaa ke kyun tum ne logon ko mazhab se itnaa bezaar kar diya thaa. I tell you why. Multiple firqay, calling themselves real Muslim and calling everyone else kaafir. Molvi saying that pak army ke foji shaheed nahi aur oon ke namaze janaaza jaiz nahi. Jub chand daarhi walay Allah o Akbar ka naara lagaa ke begunaah logon KO qatal kerain, to khullam khulla muzaamat ke bajaaay, tamam molvi napay tulay dhakay chupay alfaaz main aayain baayain shaayain bayannat dete rahay. Mera bachcha mar rahaa hai, aur aap kee zahiran hamdadiyaan Marne wale ke saath hain, tou main bezaar hee hoon ga naa aap se.

1>yeah its really sad…lakin agar app nay daikha tha to mujhay zaroor woh post show kerain takay main apne islaah ker loon

2> multiple firqay ? to phir ja ker app Nabi paak salal Allaho alyhi wasalm say bhi sawal ker lain k app nay aysay kion fermaya k mere ummat main 73 firqay hon gay …hum to phir deen say bayzaar ho jaain gay …Maaz Allah ..Tlk what r u saying ? ite kamzoor batain?

3> kis molvi nay kaha army ka jinaza nahi ..app un k nam quote kerain… mere ilm main yeh bat nahi hai

4> khullam khulla muzammat agar media per aa ker in fake anchors ki terah bolnay ko app kehtay hain to yeh app ki sooch hay mainay ahl -e- haq ulaama say hamesha in logoon ki muzammat he sunee hai ..app to in Ulema say intouch hee nahi hain? app itnay wusooq say yeh batain kaysay keh rahay hain ?

5> main in 3 din say jitnay dars main gayee wahan in zalimeen ko khatam kernay k ley or in k sher say bachnay k ijtimaye duaain karaye gayeen

6> zaahire hamderdee ??? itnee bay itamaadee ?
hamaray jo bachay shaheed hoye un ki families k ley un bachoon k ley ,apne qoom k ley ayt-e-kareema k kahatam karayee gayee

app bayzar sahee .. app ka ammal ..app jhoot such sub ko ik aynak say daikh ker apnay app ko haq per samjhain app ka ammal…jo log Deen k ley apnay din raat jaan maal laga rahay hain unhain app logoon say na izzat chaeye na himaayat …qaymat k din SAWAl sub say ho ga kisi ka Uzzar kam na aye ga ..

PS> fuzuool main shaid phir lamba choree post ho gayee ..Mu’affe chahtee hoon

[muqawwee123]

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@diwana

Most definitely the post of year!

You should be given award for speaking so eloquently and clearly.

Ek Ek Harf Umda Tareeqay Se Istemal Kia Hai Aap Ne. Baat Bhi Kaafi Sach Kahi Hai.

Aap Ka Dhaaga Nazar Se NAhin Guzra. Maazrat Khuwah Hoon.

I think this one was the thread P_G mentioned:

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/pakistan-affairs/581144-malala-k-malal-main-doobay-log.html

[muqawwee123]

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@P_G

1>yeah its really sad…lakin agar app nay daikha tha to mujhay zaroor woh post show kerain takay main apne islaah ker loon

2> multiple firqay ? to phir ja ker app Nabi paak salal Allaho alyhi wasalm say bhi sawal ker lain k app nay aysay kion fermaya k mere ummat main 73 firqay hon gay …hum to phir deen say bayzaar ho jaain gay …Maaz Allah ..Tlk what r u saying ? ite kamzoor batain?

3> kis molvi nay kaha army ka jinaza nahi ..app un k nam quote kerain… mere ilm main yeh bat nahi hai

4> khullam khulla muzammat agar media per aa ker in fake anchors ki terah bolnay ko app kehtay hain to yeh app ki sooch hay maiay ahl -e- haq ulaama say hamesha in logoon ki muzammat he sunee hai ..app to in Ulema say intouch hee nahi hain? app itnay wusooq say yeh batain kaysay keh rahay hain ?

5> main in 3 din say jitnay dars main gayee wahan in zalimeen ko khatam kernay k ley or i sher say bachnay k ijtimaye duaain karaye gayeen

hamaray jo bachay shaheed hoye un ki families k ley un bachoon k apne qoom k ley ayt-e-kareema k kahatam karayee gayee

app bayzar sahee .. app ka ammal ..app jhoot such sub ko ik aynak say daikh ker apnay app ko haq per samjhain app ka ammal…jo log Deen k ley apnay din raat jaan maal laga rahay hain unhain app logoon say na izzat chaeye na himaayat …qaymat k din SAWAl sub say ho ga kisi ka Uzzar kam na aye ga ..

PS> fuzuool main shaid phir lamba choree post ho gayee ..Muuaffe chahtee hoon

Just a random question, as this thread is already going in random direction (I don’t have any issue about that).

Why is that I don’t feel bhari pun after reading your long posts in roman Urdu as I feel while reading KKF’s roman Urdu and Sa1eem’s long posts?