Why are two woman witnesses, equivalent to only one male witness in Islam ?

Question: Why are two witnesses who are women, equivalent to only one witness who is a man?
Answer by Dr Zakir Naik: It is not true that two female witnesses are always considered as equal to only one male witness. It is true only in certain cases. There are about five verses in the Qur’an that mention witnesses, without specifying male or female. There is only one verse in the Qur’an, that says two female witnesses are equal to one male witness. This verse is Surah Baqarah, chapter 2 verse 282. This is the longest verse in the Qur’an and deals with financial transactions. It says: “Oh! Ye who believe! When ye deal with each other, in transactions involving future obligation in a fixed period of time reduce them to writing and get two witnesses out of your own men and if there are not two men, then a man and two women, such as ye choose, for witnesses so that if one of them errs the other can remind her.” [Al-Qur’an 2:282]

This verse of the Qur’an deals only with financial transactions. In such cases, it is advised to make an agreement in writing between the parties and take two witnesses, preferably both of which should be men only. In case you cannot find two men, then one man and two women would suffice. For instance, suppose a person wants to undergo an operation for a particular ailment. To confirm the treatment, he would prefer taking references from two qualified surgeons. In case he is unable to find two surgeons, his second option would be one surgeon and two general practitioners who are plain MBBS doctors.

Similarly in financial transactions, two men are preferred. Islam expects men to be the breadwinners of their families. Since financial responsibility is shouldered by men, they are expected to be well versed in financial transactions as compared to women. As a second option, the witness can be one man and two women, so that if one of the women errs the other can remind her. The Arabic word used in the Qur’an is ‘Tazil’ which means ‘confused’ or ‘to err’. Many have wrongly translated this word as ‘to forget’. Thus financial transactions constitute the only case in which two female witnesses are equal to one male witness.

However, some scholars are of the opinion that the feminine attitude can also have an effect on the witness in a murder case. In such circumstances a woman is more terrified as compared to a man. Due to her emotional condition she can get confused. Therefore, according to some jurists, even in cases of murder, two female witnesses are equivalent to one male witness. In all other cases, one female witness is equivalent to one male witness. There are about five verses in the Qur’an which speak about witnesses without specifying man or woman.

While making a will of inheritance, two just persons are required as witnesses. In Surah Maidah chapter 5 verse 106, the Glorious Qur’an says: “Oh you who believe! When death approaches any of you, (take) witnesses among yourself when making bequests.” [Al-Qur’an 5:106] two just persons of your own (brotherhood) or from outside if you are journeying through the earth and the chance of death befalls you. [Al-Qur’an 65:2]

Two persons endued with justice in case of Talaq.
“Four witnesses are required in case of charge against chaste women, [Al-Qur’an 24:4] There are some scholars who are of the opinion that the rule of two female witnesses equal to one male witness should be applied to all the cases. This cannot be agreed upon because one particular verse of the Qur’an from Surah Noor chapter 24, verse 6 clearly equates one female witness with one male witness: “And those who launch a charge against their spouses, and have (in support) no evidence but their own — their solitary evidence can be received.” [Al-Qur’an 24:6] Hazrat Ayesha (RA), hadith narrated of one witness.

Many jurists agree that even one witness of a woman is sufficient for the sighting of the crescent of the moon. Imagine one woman witness being sufficient for one of the pillars of Islam, i.e. fasting and the whole Muslim community of men and women agree and accept her witness! Some jurists say that one witness is required at the beginning of Ramadhan and two witnesses at the end of Ramadhan. It makes no difference whether the witnesses are men or women.

Some incidents require only female witness and that of a male cannot be accepted. For instance, in dealing with the problems of women, while giving the burial bath i.e. ‘ghusl’ to a woman, the witness has to be a woman.

The seeming inequality of male and female witnesses in financial transactions is not due to any inequality of the sexes in Islam. It is only due to the different natures and roles of men and women in society as envisaged by Islam.

Re: Why are two woman witnesses, equivalent to only one male witness in Islam ?

^ That answer is not very satisfactory.... Should we be stereotyping women as inferior when it comes to financial matters? No. Should we be stereotyping as only men being the breadwinners? No. A man's credibility should be the same as a woman.

There are men with no financial sense, and there are women with great financial knowledge. The credibility should depend on the person's knowledge (if its about taking financial decisions, if its just about being a witness then any1 can do it man or woman financially sound or not) and not the gender.

Re: Why are two woman witnesses, equivalent to only one male witness in Islam ?

@ vedic_intellect. You missed the main point

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so that if one of the women errs the other can remind her. The Arabic word used in the Qur’an is ‘Tazil’ which means ‘confused’ or ‘to err’.
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Re: Why are two woman witnesses, equivalent to only one male witness in Islam ?


In today's society, a woman would be schooled in finance and the man would (or should) discuss finances with his wife.

Even so, what if the man becomes disabled or is otherwise more suited to stay home, and she end ups the bread winner? No, not an ideal situation, but a possible scenario.

Re: Why are two woman witnesses, equivalent to only one male witness in Islam ?

Well then the verse is no longer applicable in cases where women are businesswomen.

I take offense to the author comparing men to surgeons and women to general practitioners. So many surgeons are women.

From what I remember reading about the verse, the verse is specific to a time period where, lets face it, very few women had the financial and outside-world training to deal with those sorts of matters. Where you don't have those conditions, then the rule no longer applies. Simple. :)

Re: Why are two woman witnesses, equivalent to only one male witness in Islam ?

toba astagh faar.
the verse and its meaning is totally diff than the interpretations and the connotations which have been deduced from it.
good intentions and law would have the right minded, apply it applicably just fully, in the context of legal matter and not extend its meaning to other domains
such as emotionality of women
or them being forgetful etc.
clearly, i never read this ayet meaning the above two indicators or explicative.

Re: Why are two woman witnesses, equivalent to only one male witness in Islam ?

Then what does it mean Dushwari? Why would God, in his Infinite Knowledge, having created man and woman, say that for what a man can do, you need two women?

If its not a lack of knowledge to be a good witness in financial issues, then what is it?

Re: Why are two woman witnesses, equivalent to only one male witness in Islam ?

I agree with PyariCGudiya.. the verse has limited relevance today.. I just didnt wanna say that cuz ppl usually bounce back saying "quran is valid forever and ever and ever you kaffir" lol

Submission, I don't understand what that line means, you need a woman to get rid of another woman's confusion, what abt the guy? males cannot be confused? I don't get it... I'm just saying its very sexist to believe that 2 women count for 1 man in financial terms.. thats all..

Re: Why are two woman witnesses, equivalent to only one male witness in Islam ?

Allah sent down the Quran for all mankind for all times!

Re: Why are two woman witnesses, equivalent to only one male witness in Islam ?

^ TRUE, and if Allah had sent the orders "only" for that time, than the Prophet (saw) would have definately explained it in any of the hadiths that this verse is specifically for this time.

Re: Why are two woman witnesses, equivalent to only one male witness in Islam ?

As quoted before are well

so that if one of the women errs the other can remind her. The Arabic word used in the Qur’an is ‘Tazil’ which means ‘confused’ or ‘to err’.

Re: Why are two woman witnesses, equivalent to only one male witness in Islam ?

Islamic rules and laws deal with common and usual circumstances. Rare events cannot become rules but need to be dealt with according to the situation in hand.

Those who think Quranic verses are written on stone and no common sense can be used are not correct since islam is a NATURAL religion and without going to detail, many decisions by the prophet (SAW) and his immediate followers were based on common sense also.

Man or woman, both have similar responsibility and right to voice their opinion and as a witness both have same credibility. But man and a woman are two different human being. Even in western society majority of men are the bread winner and women have no financial responsibility or even a slight knowledge of details of financial transaction.

Those who just like to contradict Islam or Quran will continue to do so for their hidden motives but cannot deny that men and women have been and will always be different from each other in many ways no matter how much we try to ignore this fact.

Please mark my words:

*Women will always have different way of registering the memories of a particular event in their mind than men based on their emotional, medical, psychological, social or educational background. *

Re: Why are two woman witnesses, equivalent to only one male witness in Islam ?

You tell that to the woman whose surgical knife you might be under one day.

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"**Women will always have different way of registering the memories of a particular event in their mind than men based on their emotional, medical, psychological, social or educational background."

^^ **Come on dude.. even men are going to react in different ways based on their emotional medical social and educational background... How can you stereotype all men and all women? you cant! there r going to be millions of women out there who have more financial knowledge and logic sense than men.. how can you degrade them just because they are women? AAArgh !!

Re: Why are two woman witnesses, equivalent to only one male witness in Islam ?

I have a strong feeling God/Allah/Bhagwaan is female :P

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Please people don't reply to Vedic_intellect.

Thats what he wrote aboute women, in another threads.

haha GOAT damn right we need to dress these inferior females in big curtains.. and make sure theyd ot take a shower so that they r smelly and no other guy wants them... [Edited]
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**Hareem... I'm half-muslim.. if you must know.. go on.. and give me a lecture about how theres no such thing as a half-muslim and either im musllim or a kafir lol...

furqan, it's all BS to me.. im not religious enough to blindly follow any scriptures.... my conscience doesnt allow me .... and about your references from the quran/hadith, they can just be differnt misinterpretations, or exaggerations during translations... eitherway... its BS... no thing as an EVIL EYE..

(about drugs)

i don't care what you say.. GANJA IS GOOOOOOOD.

Please Ignore this person.
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Re: Why are two woman witnesses, equivalent to only one male witness in Islam ?

^ I am not sure about the above post.

But, coming back to this thread, here Vedic_intellect has a valid point for sure and one should not ignore, a valid point, simply by condemning someone's back dated post.

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There are men with no financial sense, and there are women with great financial knowledge. The credibility should depend on the person's knowledge
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Who will not agree with this? I for sure agree that a persons credibility and his SatKarma(noble deeds) are the foremost important rather than sex, caste, race or even religion or faith he follows.

In this topic, as a practical example about women and how they are NOT in any way inferior than men in education and intellectual dealings, I have noticed since past three years that, in India, in state of Maharashtra under S.S.C(10th class) board exam the top rank student is always a girl and this has been happening since past three years!!!!!
So one can say, if female take the area of education seriously, they are capable of being equal to or ahead than male. This was just an example which may act as an eye-opener.

Re: Why are two woman witnesses, equivalent to only one male witness in Islam ?

I don't believe women are any less capable than men in any field.

Re: Why are two woman witnesses, equivalent to only one male witness in Islam ?

It doesn't work that way.

In fact, claims of "universality" (i.e. all times and all places) is a modern ideological projection onto Islam, and I see no concern on the part of early scholars to project this idea. This seems to be a response to Western claims that deomcracy etc. are "universal".

So, to proclaim a verse not applicable is not neccessarily something that should raise eyebrows...we do it with slavery all the time.

Re: Why are two woman witnesses, equivalent to only one male witness in Islam ?

I don't agree.......Prove it to me that there are more men than women with no fanancial sense .