Why are BB and Altaf Bhai silent?

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He was refering to Altaf, who is the topic of this thread.

He can say whatever he likes, and should say it

It's called 'freedom of speech', which is a concept lovers of the dictator and his partner in crime Altaf are not fond of

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Freedom of speech doesnt mean disinformation, spreading bigotry and hatred. If that is what u want then no problem that is what u deserve.

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yes ..very true by TheRealDeal..its the freedom of expression..... no hatred and bigotry........but truth..which is bitter...but have guts to accept its bitterness !!!!!

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LOL, what lies? he said the truth, as witnessed by all of Karachi during the day's of the MQM rampages

Your support for the Murderous Quami Movment is now clear as the reason you support the dictator, all is open now.

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What is open to all is your bigotry, one sided attack on everything Mohajir, complete disregard of the atrocities committed by BB, NS and that Butcher of Karachi Naseer Babar. Killing the youth of Karachi, giving them guns and drugs was the not the doing of Mqm or Altaf but the Pak army, Isi, establish,ment and their allies that included BB, NS and most importantly the right wing parties (JI, JUI etc).

If Altaf and Mqm were such monstors they wud not be lected again and again by thumping majorities, fact is ppl of Karachi and Hyderabad have not forgotten what BB, NS, Babar and all those murderers committed in their eras and how Mqm was targeted.

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Bro, please don't get angry. Naseerullah Babar actually made Karachi a place to live for all residents. Please see the highlighted linesa and tell me what have you written. You are supporting MQM and mota kala altaf- people who never contributed anything to Pakistan at all and stil occupy a place in our country and keep haunting us. Maybe we should have limited immigration in 1947 to only patriotic non-punjabi Indians so that we wouldn't have to problem of Altaf and jis supporters today. Why not any Punjabi who migrated from East Punjab create any problems for us? Nawaz was a good guy who wanted to make Pakistan a better place to live- he wanted to further Gen. Zia's good deeds.

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as i said a couple of months ago, PPP’s role is likely to determine what pakistan’s political scene would look like.

*'Yet it is the PPP which has the largest vote bank in the country. It is also the party with a significant presence in Punjab and Sindh. With the PML in the hands of General Musharraf, and Maulana Fazlur Rehman ready to negotiate with the government at all times, no mass agitation will succeed in the real sense unless the PPP leads it or is a dynamic part of it. This much has been accepted as a fact also by Qazi Hussain Ahmad, the president of the MMA. But it then stands to reason that if all the opposition parties are agreed about the role and position of the PPP, then they should listen to the opinion of Ms Bhutto and not force her to join the agitation without regard to the kind of situation it might bring about.

On the other side, it is clear that after the recent fiasco, General Musharraf’s key PML ally is discredited and cannot hope to win the next general elections fairly. Nor can the judiciary be counted upon to stand with the PML and risk being tarred with the same brush. In other words, General Musharraf cannot blithely bend the constitution and civil society to his tune, rig the elections and expect to be both army chief and president for another five years. So he will have to either democratise and share power with the PPP or become more repressive. The current mid-way house of guided democracy without the mainstream PPP in tow and the MMA up in arms is coming to an end. '*
http://dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2007\03\19\story_19-3-2007_pg3_1

meanwhile, Benazir continues to tread carefully..

‘Former prime minister Benazir Bhutto declared here on Sunday that Gen Pervez Musharraf is in “deep trouble”. Interviewed on FoxNews Live Weekend, the most watched American TV channel, the PPP chairwoman said the people are angry over the treatment of the chief justice of Pakistan. She called on Gen Musharraf to reverse his decision immediately. He has lost credibility with the people, who are tired of dictatorship, she added. To a question about Afghanistan, Bhutto said the Karzai government is also under severe threat. The Taliban are a threat to both Pakistan and Afghanistan, but they cannot be fought when there is a dictatorship in Pakistan, under which the people are alienated. It is due to Gen Musharraf’s mistakes that Pakistan is increasingly being targeted by terrorists, she said. A democratic government will be able to combat terrorism with the help of the people of Pakistan, she stated. Asked if there is a way out, she said, “Pakistan’s return to democracy is the only way out.’ http://dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2007\03\19\story_19-3-2007_pg1_2

*'PPP Chairwoman Benazir Bhutto has instructed her party not to take part in street protests organised by the MMA. *

She also instructed her party leaders to remain in the country and not attend the all parties conference in London called by the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz. She issued her instructions before the announcement from London that the conference had been put off in view of the situation in Pakistan.

*The PPP Parliamentarians has decided to launch an independent protest campaign in the wake of the crisisafter the suspension of CJP Iftikhar Chaudhry, according to the news intelligence service.’ *http://dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2007\03\19\story_19-3-2007_pg1_3

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Would it not be terrible if BB makes a deal with Musharaf to get back into power?

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its not that she has not been trying...

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Altafu is not silent anymore, but BB is still very careful with her statements. So much so that Nawaz Sharif was pleading with her over this weekend to not make a deal with Musharraf.

**Nawaz Sharif - “I plead with BB not to make deal with Musharraf” - London Times **](http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showthread.php?t=253172)

Re: Why are BB and Altaf Bhai silent?

Looks like BB has no choice but to remain silent in her bid to get back into power by any means.

She must be worried:

a) If she supports CJ, or speaks up against Musharaf, then she has no deal and no chance of getting back into power.

b) If she speaks up against CJ, and if CJ and AH form a new political party, her votebank would be affected.

So, she is khamooshi se bethna.

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This is what she’s saying now…

http://dawn.com/2007/05/18/top10.htm
Time not right to talk about deal: Benazir
By Anwar Iqbal

WASHINGTON, May 17: Former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto has said that it would be inappropriate for her to talk about “an emerging partnership” with President Pervez Musharraf now when public sentiments against the government are running so high.

In an unusually candid interview to Canadian Broadcasting Corporation’s radio programme “As It Happens”, Ms Bhutto explained why she was talking to the Musharraf government before the judicial crisis and how Islamabad’s inability to “act quickly” blocked progress.

** Ms Bhutto acknowledged that during her contacts with the Musharraf government, she had urged Islamabad to drop all corruption charges against Asif Zardari and her.** She said she agreed with the assessment that Gen Musharraf was now losing control over the situation.

“I believe that power is slipping out of Gen Musharraf’s hand very quickly. His authority has been badly damaged by the suspension of Pakistan’s top judge. And I share the view that it is only a matter of time before he leaves the government.”

But she warned that a lot depended on the international community and the armed forces of Pakistan. “If they continue to back him, he might be able to cling on,” she said.

“Part of it depends on Gen Musharraf himself. Is he able to make the compromises necessary to respond to the sentiments of the people?“So far he has not shown an inclination to compromise and I think that has been his basic failing.”

** Ms Bhutto politely rejected former prime minister Nawaz Sharif’s allegation that she had betrayed her allies in the movement for restoring democracy to Pakistan by holding talks with Gen Musharraf.**

“The PPP is not interested in dictatorship. Our contacts have been for a transition to democracy. The pact that PPP has with Mr Sharif is for strengthening democracy. The contacts between Gen Musharraf and the PPP were also aimed at helping facilitate Pakistan’s transfer to a democratic order,” she said.Ms Bhutto agreed with the suggestion that for any progress in her talks with the government, it was absolutely essential that President Musharraf quits the army. “I would see that to be a political leader, Gen Musharraf needs to take his uniform off. And in fact, I would say that Gen Musharraf needs to take the initiative,” she said.

This initiative, according to her, should include inviting all the political leaders to a roundtable conference to discuss Pakistan’s future, to discuss the transfer of power and to discuss the balance of power between the president and the prime minister.

“And obviously if there’s no movement on the issues that the opposition is concerned about then there wouldn’t be any settlement,” said the former prime minister.

** Asked if during her contacts with the government, she had asked Islamabad to shut down the investigation into corruption charges against her and her husband, she said: “Very much so. We believe that all political parties must have a level playing field.
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** “And the PPP has been hobbled by politically motivated allegations that have remained unproven for a decade despite vast sums of money from Pakistan’s national treasury being spent on them.”But she said that dropping corruption charges were not enough for the talks to be fruitful. “Even if corruption allegations were to end tomorrow, more would need to be done because we are talking here about Pakistan’s transition to democracy,” she added.**

“There are other issues that need to be addressed, such as the constitutional issue spelling out the powers between the president and the prime minister. There is the issue of how and when Gen Musharraf takes off his uniform. So there are several issues involved and there hasn’t been any movement on any of the multiple issues.”

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while she uses the words 'sentiments of people' what she means is compromise on allowing her to come back. very clearly indicates what she is up to.

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I hope she never comes back and a PPP emerges free of bhutto influence.

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BB has not said much recently. Is she supporting Altaf?

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Ch.Aitzaz is trying hard to ensure that.

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nope just her own political ambitions, she will put all her weight down behind the winning horse when ther eis more clarity on what is happening.

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Lolz... Joke of the day!!! :D

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That's true.

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BB still wants to remain silent.

Benazir will not attend APC in London: Amin Fahim

Chief of Alliance for Restoration of Democracy (ARD) Amin Fahim said that due to her engagements Benazir Bhutto cannot attend the APC in London. He told this in a press conference after the meeting of the central executive committee and the federal council of the Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) at Bilawal House, Karachi. Makhdoom Amin Fahim said that the London APC was not called by the Muslim League but the ARD. Benazir Bhutto, due to her engagements, cannot participate in the APC. However, a high-level delegation of the party will attend the conference.