Why Aisha?

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before i ask, i’d like to remind you all to keep it civil in my thread please

i have a question, and i ask this in all seriousness…and i mean no offense

there are certain women in Islam whom we respect above all others, Prophet Isa’s (A) mother, Maryam, the pharoas wife Aasiya, Rasullullah’s wife Khadija b/c they were the epitome of righteous women…

my question Aisha…one amazing thing she did was she was a major contributor to hadeeth and she was pious

but you also hear stories about how she was such a jealous woman, especially about Khadija

and please, please correct me if i’m wrong…but isn’t she a big part of the divide that came in the ummah at the time of Ali as well?

and i just remember hearing other stories about her behavior as well

i understand that she was an extremely pious woman, and i also realize she was only human…i just feel like a woman in her posistion of the Prophet’s wife could have carried herself better in certain situations

i understand why she’s important…i just don’t know that i’d put her to that highest level

I just have such a great respect and love for some of these other women, that i just dont feel as much for aisha…and i feel kind of guilty for it :bummer:

please don’t misunderstand this as some kind of attack on her, and i dont’ mean to be horrid, i really would like to know more about her, and i hope that some of you can provide me with the knowledge

thank you

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Re: Why Aisha?

You have read the Shia literature.
Now, time for you to read some Sunni’s :slight_smile:

http://anwary-islam.com/women/m-womens_aishah.htm

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You think Sunnis would tell you the truth. they would only tell you thier side of the story just like shias or other parties involved in the conflict. there sure was a conflict, hell it was a war to be correct, after the death of Mohammad. Sure enough Aesha was in the center of the conflict and so was Ali, Usman and others.
They all fought hard to snacth the powers from the others. we dont know the true story cos there was no who was not part of the conflict and hence bias in telling the story. according to some people Aesha was a bit arrogant and did not want to give in to pressure from elders to let the right person run the community. She was rude to Khadija and she used to fight with Mohammad over Khadija. I am not saying that these stories are more true than the others, but what I am saying that Aesha was not a saint she was just another woman

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forget about what Shiats and sunnies say. use ur common sense.
the things people associate with HAzrat Aisha, do u expect those things from ANY muslim woman? (You know what I am talking ab0ut) then why ppl fail to realise when they talk about her then Indirectly they are questioning Prophet's (PBUH) training and THEIR relationship.

what I fail to understand what happened to all those Sahabies JUST AFTER 6 months of Prophet's death. Some ppl talk about Hazrat AbuBakar's behavior with HAzarat FAtima; Do you really believe that spending 23 yrs with Prophet left NO mark on his character?

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She was human first then wife of prophet (pbuh) and so mother of all believers

So, her status is very high in Islam i.e mother, same as biological mothers they are not perfect in anyway but we love and respect them because this is ordained for believers.

On one side Hazrat Aisha (ra) was a pious lady, but she was also a human being. We understand every human has shortcommings

Same way, Hazrat Umar (ra) was a brilliant leader but he also had his own set of natural fallouts. Same was the case with Hazrat Ali, Usman and others.

We do not consider them infallible.At the same time we can never assume anything bad about their intentions and sincerity to Islam.

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714 carry on reading what ur reading.. its ALL good.. :)
whoever said bad are for bad is wrong.. if bad was for bad and good was for good.. ther wud be no balance.. Allah put good with bad to help influence and stop the bad.. so that theory of yours was crap.

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Just remember…She is Ummahat-al-Momineen…Mother of the believers…

If someone tried to disredit your mother, would you believe them? Would you believe if someone came to you and said, your mother is such and such?

No beloved son or daughter of their parents can believe that…

So drop whatever you are reading or you too will be sucked into believing bad things about the most noblest of people and end up cursing and abusing those nobles that died almost 1,500 years ago…

What you have probably been reading is Shia stuff…They like cursing dead people especially if they helped the Holy Prophet :saw: in his mission of spreading Islam…

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There was an ayah revealed for her piousness, for me that fact alone is enough to respect her.

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Please read the first post again. The poster asked general questions based on Islamic history, There is no question of sectarianism.

**I believe these question can come into one’s mind after studying sunni books and traditions **

If you find it hard to find these question let me summerize it for you.

These questions have been asked in honest pursuit of answer based on proper knowledge of Islamic history

**Please read the questions and answer them accordingly, instead of inventing side questions and fighting over them :flower1:

**

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http://is.aswatalislam.net/DisplayFilesP.aspx?TitleID=2146&TitleName=Abu_Ammar_Yasir_Qadhi

scroll down to the lecture called “slander against aisha”

shoutl insha’Allaah clarify alot.

He is Masha’Allaah a very good talker and explains in full detail no matter what the subject.

i rmbr he was asked a question about jinns and he gave abt a 40 min answer.

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Thank You Salafi Bro. There are good lectures on that site from other Ullema and sheikhs.
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[This is not a shia sunni thread, Please stick to answering the original questions.]

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yeh i know. i was just put that link on for those that made it a sunni'shia thread.

I cant really answer the question as this is the 1st time iv come acroos it. maybe if the bro/sis gave examples of when she did get jealous or any situation that he is on abt then maybe we could give a good answer and also so one can verify the info.

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I just heard the whole lecture…What an amazing speaker :mash:…It was long, but really worth it…So many lessons from it, :mash:…

One lesson I would like to share that I learnt from his lecture:

Riba (Interest, usury) has 72 levels…And the lowest of those levels is as fornicating with one’s own mother…

And the highest level is speaking bad about the honour of a Muslim brother…

Something to ponder upon…Something to grow upon and become wiser upon…If only we had the wisdom to grow out of our ignorance…

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Good questions 714. I always wondered the same thing. As for the whole jealousy bit, I suppose it shows us that polygamy is no easy task AT ALL. And that even the most pious woman might not be able to handle polygamy so well. And that not all men will be able to manage more than one woman.

What did Abu Bakr (R) do to Fatima (R) ?

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I have just one question for all the so called inauistive minds..What purpose does it serve to ask these questions?

Ayesha (r) was a pious woman. If you think otherwise, you are questioning the judgement of none other than Muhammad:saw:. I dont know about you guys, but I dont question His judgements and acts.

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Kaleem, Muhammed (SAW) is not judge, that he judged Ayesha to be pious. Remember, ultimate judgements lie in the hands of Allah. That's why even the most pious of sahabah would still beg for forgiveness for all their sins. They knew they were not perfect, and they knew that Allah was their final judge. I don't see anything that says that Muhammed (SAW) judged anyone, since that's God's job.

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PCG,nice try, however, Muhammad:saw: is believed to have committed no sin after acceptance or the first “wahi”. Also, I am not talking about judgement as in judgement day…I am talking judge of character…He knew more than you and me and all the mud throwing shias combined …so I urge you to give it a rest and let it go. Try to follow Quran and may Allah have mercy on all of us.

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Oh, hey, I'm not saying Aisha (R) was a bad person. I'm saying she had her character flaws also, although she was probably a better muslim than me, or even you Kaleem.

Nonetheless, that doesn't mean we shoudl not look into it. If someone bothered to write a hadith on her jealousy over Khadija and bothered to record her role in wars after the Prophet's death, then its worth researching into.

And not everyone believes that Muhammed (SAW) committed no sin. That's quite debateable, since the Quran itself has an ayah that reprimands the Prophet. Although heck, if that was my only sin, I'd be happy.

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No Quran does not forbid me to use my mind. I just dont see any fruitful result out of such discussions. It only serves the agenda of folks like you who want to divide muslims.
I view the history of Islam as events that took place and people involved did what they thought was best according to their judgements. If they did any wrong, Let Allah be the judge and move on. You can find answers to important Islamic issues through Quran and Ahadeeths that do not contradict Quran.
P.S. This one time I will let you slide with the snide remarks. Next time be prepared to recieve the full brunt of my wrath.

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Apparently, my questions that I asked the Shias about AISHA (ra) were also deleted... deleting comments on Sahaba makes sense but why delete those questions? Too lazy to edit the post?

714, whatever you have read on Shia websites is wrong, based on lies and distorted historical facts. Here are some questions you should be asking your self without EVEN GOING into the historical details of the events, which are always sketchy:

Do you believe that Allah guides his prophet at all times, in all aspects of his life? Yes, I assume?
Do you have any doubt about what the prophet does or his judgement in choosing a life partner? No, I assume?

A Muslims belief is that Aisha (ra) was pious, she was good woman, good wife and good mother of all believers (Muslims). Through her we have come to know so much about prophet and his private life.

Choosing a life partner and having a life partner is probably the MOST important thing that any person does in his/her life, correct? It is 100 times more important thing for a PROPHET when he chooses his life partner. It is certainly important for ALLAH to give his prophet the BEST of mankind as partner and as friends so that non Muslims may not judge the prophet based on character of his friends or wives. Make sense?

So, when somebody DOUBTS anything regarding or related to Aisha (ra) they are basically doubting Allah and his messenger's JUDGEMENT. It is insulting to Allah that he could not warn the prophet about Aisha (ra) when he was going to marry her... Allah could have easily? Even before thinking about marrying Aisha (ra), ALLAH would have never allowed such thought to come to Prophet's mind IF she was a "bad" woman. When somebody DOUBTS Aisha (ra)'s character, they are basically saying that ALLAH assigned a WRONG partner to his Prophet. Which is wrong and no Allah does not make such mistakes or wrongs, especially when it is about his LAST and MOST beloved prophet. Make sense?

If anybody believes otherwise, they should prove themselves through LOGIC and common sense and some reasoning. Forget the books for a minute. Lets work with the basics and what we already know about the prophet and how their lives are guided by Allah.

A person like myself or you can make mistakes when choosing a life partner and some of us may have but not the last prophet of Allah. Sorry, I can't believe rubbish that anti-Islamic forces spread against Aisha (ra) to harm her character and cast doubts about judgement of the prophet and Allah.