Re: Why a Hindu should become a Muslim
im not a sister, and im guessing ur not pakistani or indian.
blind faith for them maybe.
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and they say, blind faith for you. neither side really has much of way of proof beyond quoting scripture to justify itself.
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Quran is perfectly aligned with modern science. Justification enough?
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not true. at best, quran has verses which can be interpreted to conform with science. and interpretation of quranic verse is HIGLY subjective. there are a zillion interpretations of quranic verses by different muslim schools of thought.
if this wasnt the case, we'd be seeing muslims being great scientists. today, there are hardly any prominent muslim scientists.
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Quran is made for all times and for all people.
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i bet it says so in the quran. 
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wasim bhai, can you explain why some children are born with some birth defects like they are sometimes mentally challenged, physically deformed etc?.
Re: Why a Hindu should become a Muslim
When children are born mentally challenged, physically deformed they are sent as
1) Reminders for the rest of humanity who are fit and well that great Mercy has been given to them and many riches of health and wellbeing that we take for granted.
2) Those children's parents will have their sins more readily forgiven as the burden of raising their children is higher.
3) Those children will have less judgement or if they are mentally incapable then they will not be given judgement.
Regarding quoting from the Puranas ... it is our intention to come to common terms with the people we speak with.
According to the Baghwad Gita ... when society is in moral decay then an "avatar" is "taken" ... In Islam we say the same thing regarding socieities need for prophets. When their message is becoming degraded then God sends another prophet(AS). It could therefore be quite likely that Krishna is a prophet. Allahu'alim.
Also we use and root out the parts of scriptures that conform to the clear message of the Qur'an as prophet Muhammad (SAW) was the last prophet who came to clarify that what came before him. So when people are confused about the term "avatar" we should calrify it to them that if "avatar" is a true phenomenon it can only take the meaning of prophet, because
1) According to Vedas there is no mention of avatar, but there is mention of prophetic people.
2) The similarity regarding the reason for taking avatar is the same reason for God to send a prophet.
As Qur'an is the last testimony and proven as being unchanged then the meaning of the Qur'an must supercede the meaning in the Shruti - Puranas.
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1) Reminders for the rest of humanity who are fit and well that great Mercy has been given to them and many riches of health and wellbeing that we take for granted.
2) Those children's parents will have their sins more readily forgiven as the burden of raising their children is higher.
3) Those children will have less judgement or if they are mentally incapable then they will not be given judgement.
Right answer Hareem01, nothing more to answer regarding this topic.
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Hah I still have my posts from the deleted thread on my desktop, do u want me to start that again here? why u like to be beaten all over again?
Islam and Science: hogwash
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Yup, sure is thats why Muslims are urged to produce as many kids as possible (15 min per wife X 4 = 60 :D )
while the whole world is looking at birth control Islam looks the other way towards the stone age
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firstly i have not been replying at all
I have simply been asking questions that no one has answered
Once again I say that these questions need no references from quran or any thing historical
just questions as simple as "whats your name"
U dont need rocket science to do that, do u?
All i see on this thread is quarreling because no answers can be given
To top it up the biggest joke is that u claim to have answered all my questions
Also what of my thread u still have not accepted my challenge, and yo-wasim if u believe what u say u must be willing to prove it in public
do not ask me to duel u in private on yahoo msngr like a chicken
all the members on tjis post know that u have no answers yet to my questions and are posting bogus replies so that this post is terminated on the grounds of size
so be a man of honor answer the questions i have put forth
and if u believe u have answered them just copy and paste them in the Q&A format that i put out and we'll all be convinced ok?
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They want us to be like them ... How do we know? Because the Qur'an says so.
Wait a moment, sis whoever said we want u to be like us? wid all due respect Da'awa is not a Hindu concept, infact hinduism is the only religion u should follow as we have the statement
"Sarva dharma Sahasra" (correct me if I am wrong here SSingh u are better at the scriptures )
which means all paths lead to one God
unlike what u say " if u dont follow me, u will burn in hell"
U also said that islam asks you to question your beliefs, after so much BQSS i am sure that " to question " here means only to find which page # on Surah al : whatever it is written on and not to use common sense
U know why? BQSS :D
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^ sanatana dharma. yours could be right also. Besides, you know more than me. i saw it in the last thread.
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Why should we do Jihad? Yud .... BQSS and Baghwad Gita says so
Wait, wait,wait
as all u muslims are so well versed in the Bahgvad Gita and Sanskrit, could u please tell me where the Gita asks us to do a Jihad on non believers?
chapter and verse # please
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I expected this from you, now i know what answers you want, go look at it buddy each and every question, i put across and the way you have answered.
Was a test, you have been behaving just like the other fanatics against Islam. You do only Gas talk, no authenticity and you are not capable enough to prove. What you have written.
Good, thats nice to know. I like the challenge, now accept what I have got to say regarding, the other religions which i never wanted to put it acrossin the forum.
The other reason was, you seem to take things personally, and i dont intend to do so.
But thats fine.
I wont answer your question, even now go ahead and hurl questions.
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**CONCEPT OF JIHAD IN HINDUISM AND IN ISLAM ..****JIHAD IN ISLAM AND IN HINDUISM ..**a. One of the greatest misconceptions about Islam, not only amongst the non-Muslims but even amongst the Muslims, is that concerning the concept of Jihad. Non-Muslims as well as Muslims think that any war fought by any Muslim for whatever purpose, be it good or bad, is Jihad .Jihad’ is an Arabic word derived from ‘Jahada’, which means to strive or to struggle. For example. if a student strives to pass in the examination he is doing jihad.. In the Islamic context, ‘Jihad’ means to strive against one’s own evil inclination. It also means to strive to make the society better. It also includes the right to fight in self-defence or to fight in the battlefield against oppression and against aggression **Jihad is not holy war **Not only non-Muslim scholars, but even some Muslim scholars mistranslate the word ‘Jihad’ as holy war. The Arabic word for ‘holy war’ is ‘harabum muqaddasah’ and this word is not to be found anywhere in the Qur’an nor in any hadith. The word ‘holy war’ was first used to describe the crusades of the Christians who killed thousands of people in the name of Christianity. Today, this term ‘holy war’ is used to falsely describe Jihad, which merely means ‘to strive’. In an Islamic context, Jihad means ‘to strive in the way of Allah for a righteous cause’. i.e. Jihad fi Sabilillah …Only one of the several forms of Jihad is fighting
]There are different types of Jihad i.e., striving. One of the types is striving is fighting in the battlefield against oppression and tyranny. Many critics of Islam including Arun Shourie quote Surah Al-Tawbah chapter 9 verse 5 **“… Fight and slay the Mushrik/Kafir (Hindu) wherever you find them **](Al Qur’an 9:5if you read the Qur’an, this verse exists but it is quoted out of context by Arun Shourie. The first few verses of Surah Tawbah before verse 5 speak about the peace treaty between the Muslims and Muskhriks (polytheists) of Makkah. This peace treaty was unilaterally broken by the Mushriks of Makkah. In verse no. 5 Allah (swt) gives them an ultimatum to put things straight in four months’ time, or else face a declaration of war. It is for the battlefield that Allah says “fight and slay the Mushriks (i.e. the enemies from Makkah) wherever you find them and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem of war”. This verse is revealed and instructs the Muslims to fight in the battlefield and kill the enemy wherever you find them. But natural, any army general to boost up the morale of the soldiers and to encourage them will say “Don’t get scared, fight and kill the enemies, wherever you find them in the battlefield. Arun Shourie in his book ‘The World of Fatwas’ after quoting Surah Tawbah chapter 9 verse 5 jumps to verse 7. Any logical person will realize that verse 6 has the reply to his allegation Surah Tawbah chapter 9 verse 6 says: **If any amongst the Mushriks (i.e. the enemies) ****ask thee for asylum, grant it to him so that ****he may hear the word of Allah and then ****escort him to where he can be secure”. **(Al Qur’an 9:6)
Today the most merciful army general may tell his soldiers to let the enemy go, but Almighty Allah in the Qur’an says if the enemy wants peace do not just let them go but escort them to a place of security. Which army general in today’s day and age, or rather in the whole of recorded human history is ever known to have given such merciful instructions? Now will someone ask Mr. Arun Shourie why did he deliberately not quote verse 6 **]Jihad (i.e. striving) in the Bhagavad Gita **
All the major religions encourage their followers to strive in good works. It is mentioned in Bhagavad Gita Therefore strive for Yoga, O Arjuna, which is the art of all work(Bhagavad Gita 2:50 **Fighting prescribed in the Bhagavad Gita too **]All the major religions of the world have prescribed fighting, at sometime or the other, especially in self-defence or for fighting against oppression Mahabharata is an epic and sacred Scripture of the Hindus, which mainly deals with a fight between the cousins, the Pandavas and the Kauravas. In the battlefield Arjun prefers not to fight and be killed rather than having his conscience burdened with the killing of his relatives. At this moment, Krishna advises Arjun in the battlefield and this advice is contained in the Bhagvad Gita. There are several verses in the Bhagvad Gita where Krishna advises Arjun to fight and kill the enemies even though they are his relatives It is mentioned in The Bhagvad Gita Chapter 1 verse 43-46 (43) O Krishna, maintainer of the people, I have heard by disciplic succession that those who destroy family traditions dwell always in hell (44) “Alas, how strange it is that we are preparing ourselves to commit great sinful acts, driven by the desire to enjoy royal happiness 45) I would consider better for the sons of Dhritarashtra to kill me unarmed and unresisting rather than fight with them ](46) “Arjuna, having thus spoken, cast aside his bow and arrow, and sat down on the chariot, his mind, overwhelmed with grief Krishna further replies in] Bhagvad Gita Chapter 2 Verse 2, 3 2. “My dear Arjuna, how have these impurities come upon you? They are not at all befitting a man who knows the progressive values of life. They lead not to higher planets but to infamy “O son of Partha, do not yield to this degrading impotence. It does not become you. Give up such petty weakness of heart and arise, O chastiser of the enemy When Arjuna prefers to be killed unarmed and unresisting rather than fight and kill his cousins Kauravas, Krishna replies to Arjun by saying how this impure thought has come to you which prevents you from entering heaven. Give up this degrading Impotence and weakness of heart and arise, O defeater of enemy Krishna further says in Bhagvad Gita Chapter 2 verse 31-33 “Considering your specific duty as a Kshatriya, you should know that there is no better engagement for you than fighting on religious principles, so there is no need for hesitation “O Partha, happy are the Kshatriya to whom such fighting opportunities come unsought, opening for them the door of the heavenly planets “If however, you do not fight this religious war, then you will certainly incur sin, for neglecting your duties, and thus loose your reputation as a fighter .There are hundreds of verses in the Bhagvad Gita alone, which encourages fighting and killing, many times more as compared to such verses in the Qur’an Imagine if someone were to say that the Bhagvad Gita encourages the killing of the family members to attain paradise, without quoting the context – such a deliberate attempt will be devilish. But within the context if I say that for truth and justice fighting against the evil is compulsory, even if it be against your relatives, it makes sense.
.I wonder how come the critics of Islam, especially critics amongst the Hindus, point a finger at the Qur’an when it speaks about fighting and killing unjust enemies. The only possibility I can think of is that they themselves have not read their sacred scriptures such as the Bhagavad Gita, Mahabharata and the Vedas. ]Critics of Islam including Hindu critics speak against the Qur’an and the Prophet when they say that if you are killed while doing Jihad i.e. fighting for the truth, you are promised paradise Besides quoting Qur’anic verses they quote Sahih Bukhari Vol. 4, Book of Jihad Chapter no. 2 Hadith No. 46 .Allah guarantees that He will admit the Mujaahid in His cause to Paradise if he is killed, otherwise he will return him to his home safely with rewards and war booty”. ](Sahih Bukhari Vol. 4, Book of Jihad Chapter no. 2 Hadith No. 46 .There are various similar verses in Bhagavad Gita guaranteeing a person paradise if he is killed while fighting. Take the example of Bhagavad Gita Chapter 2 verse 37 ..O son of Kunti, either you will be killed in the battlefield and attain the heavenly planets (paradise), or you will conquer and enjoy the earthly kingdom, therefore get up and fight with determination (Bhagavad Gita 2:37 .Similarly Rigved Book No. 1 Hymn 132 Verse 2-6 as well as many other verses of Hindu Scriptures speak about fighting and killing **Explain Jihad by quoting Scriptures of other Religions ** Allah says in the Qur’an: .**Say: “O people **** Of the Book! Come **** To common terms ****As between us and you: **(Al Qur’an 3:64 The best way to explain a misconception of Islam is to quote a similar message given in the Scripture of other religions. Whenever I have spoken to Hindus who criticize the concept of Jihad in Islam, the moment I quote similar passages from Mahabharata and Bhagavad Gita, and since they know the outline and the context of the fight in Mahabharata, they immediately agree that if the Qur’an too speaks about a fight between truth and falsehood then they have no objection but rather appreciate the guidance of the Qur’an .http://www.islamawareness.net/Hinduism/ZakirNaik/part9.html
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I desperately want to see some answers from you. Please!!!
Re: Why a Hindu should become a Muslim
[In Rig Veda III:34:9 Indra killed the Dasyus (dark skinned natives) and
“gave protection to the Aryan color.” Not only did the Aryans shamelessly
pray for booty in war but they based their militarily won supremacy on
the lightness of their skin color compared to the dark colors of the native
Dasyus. They arrogantly proclaim, “Let those who have no weapons suffer sorrow.” (Rig
Veda IV:5:14.)]
“Renowned is he when conquering and when slaying:
'tis he who wins cattle in the combat.
When Indra hardens his indignation
all that is fixed and all that moves fear him.
Indra has won all kine, all gold, all horses, -
Maghavan, he who breaks forts in pieces;” --Rig Veda IV:17:10-11.
Indra is praised for killing thousands of the abject tribes of Dasas
with his arrow and taking great vengeance with “murdering weapons.” (Rig
Veda IV:28:3-4) One hymn mentions sending thirty thousand Dasas “to
slumber” and another hymn sixty thousand slain. A hymn dedicated to the
weapons of war (Rig Veda VI:75) refers to a warrior “armed with mail,”
using a bow to win cattle and subdue all regions, “upstanding in the car
the skillful charioteer guides his strong horses on whithersoe’er he
will.” The arrows had iron mouths and shafts “with venom smeared” that
“not one be left alive.” Hymn VII:83 begins, “Looking to you and your
alliance, O ye men, armed with broad axes they went forward, fain for
spoil. Ye smote and slew his Dasa and his Aryan enemies.”
Only occasionally did the authors of these hymns look to their own sins.
“Free us from sins committed by our fathers,
from those wherein we have ourselves offended.
O king, loose, like a thief who feeds the cattle,
as from the cord a calf, set free Vasishtha.
Not our own will betrayed us, but seduction,
thoughtlessness, Varuna! wine, dice or anger.
The old is near to lead astray the younger:
even sleep removes not all evil-doing.” --Rig Veda VII:86:5-6.
A hymn to the frogs compares the repetitions of the priests around the
soma bowl to the croaking of the frogs around a pond after the rains
come. (Rig Veda VII:103)
The basic belief of the prayers and sacrifices is that they will help
them to gain their desires and overcome their enemies, as in Rig Veda
VIII:31:15: “The man who, sacrificing, strives to win the heart of
deities will conquer those who worship not.” [VERY TOLERANT VEDIC-HINDUS??]
Furthermore, the prayers for riches continue, and Indra is thanked for
winning wealth in horses, cattle, and gold by his chariot. Agni helps to
slay the many in war by the hands of the few, “preserving our wealthy
patrons with thy succors, and ourselves.” (Rig Veda I:31:6, 42) Indra
helped win the Aryan victory:
“He, much invoked, hath slain Dasyus and Simyus,
after his wont, and laid them low with arrows.
The mighty thunderer with his fair-complexioned friends
won the land, the sunlight, and the waters.” --Rig Veda I:100:18.
Control of the waters was essential for agricultural wealth. Indra is
praised for crushing the godless races and breaking down their forts.
(Rig Veda I:174) [Again, the “tolerant” & “holy” scriptures speak.]
In the tenth and last book of the Rig Veda some new themes are explored,
but the Dasyus are still condemned for being “riteless, void of sense,
inhuman, keeping alien laws,” and Indra still urges the heroes to slay
the enemies; his “hand is prompt to rend and burn, O hero thunder-armed:
as thou with thy companions did destroy the whole of Sushna’s brood.”
(Rig Veda X:22)
Obviously, the “myth” that the current “evils” of the Hindu system such as the
caste system, etc. are all corruptions of later Hindus & all the clean values
of the ancient Hindus illustrated in the Vedas were much purer, peaceful & more
spiritual…
RIGHT…WHATEVER.
Moreover, as one can see, Hitler’s view of the Aryans & choice of the swas-tika
symbol was not entirely inappropriate for his genocidic tendencies.
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Well done hareem01