who would be the urdu poet of the century?

Mr_Fraudia · September 22, 1998, 9:12pm

So.. now that I am back.. kinda

who do u think would be the urdu poet of the century. Please support your argument as well.

I will save my own reponse for later, but here’s something to get u started

ghalic? mir? dard? iqbal? dagh? faraz? jaffery? faiz?

oki gang. go crazy. i hafta return and do some more test runs for moi boss.

archer · September 23, 1998, 2:06am

Hi there!
Urdu poetry has a lot to offer but in my opinion Faiz Ahmad Faiz is the real poet of the century b/c Iqbal wasnot born in this century.
Us khet key har Ghunchay ko aag laga do is the real message of faiz .He was a socialist/communist and he was against the capitalism he talked about the oppressed but could not get the patronage as other poets b/c of his ferocious thoughts.

Mr_Fraudia · September 24, 1998, 11:58pm

but iqbal did live in thsi century :)it would be unfair to someone born in 1999 who will cure AIDS and Cancer etc and solve world problems to not get person of the century award just cuz he was not born in the century.

Najim · September 29, 1998, 10:14pm

I would say IQBAL, though Faiz is really good poet but IQBAL is IQBAL. U can't put him in 19th century though he was born in 1877 but his poetry appeared in 20th century.

system · September 30, 1998, 11:00am

Although a lot of new poets have come up with new ways of poetry, and with different thoughts I would say that it is still Iqbal who deserves to be the poet of this century. Nobody have still yet not been able to make such huge changes in society as him...and nobody have succeeded being as original as him ...so it is very true that IQBAL IS IQBAL.

Mr_Fraudia · April 9, 1999, 7:09pm

When I had suggested that I will post my choice later, I did not know it will be this late.. but hey.
I procrastinated a "bit"

its Ahmad Faraz.

sabah · May 19, 1999, 11:24am

Salaam

Gharrhe murde ukharr rahi hoon so sorry, lekin

Fraudia jee Ahmed Faraz kion???
I mean mujhe un pe aitraaz to nahin lekin what makes him poet of the century???

Aap ki post mein kio supporting argument hi nahin hai

Mr_Fraudia · May 19, 1999, 6:38pm

Faraz because he is more in touch with issues than any other poet. he expresses himself better... his poetry has angst and not hopelessness or depression...
he is a gadfly, he questions everything...
I was especially moved by one of his poems about open gunfire at Karachi University.

Faraz was exiled, but always held patriotic iews. His poems always have a sense of loss, and bewilderment, but its not just idle screaming. It makes you think....

Rameesha · May 19, 1999, 10:37pm

hhhhmmmmmmm Iqbal? Ghalib? Faiz? Faraz???
No i cann,t do that.Its very difficult to choose one of them

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I LOVE all of them

ZZ · May 19, 1999, 10:52pm

How acknowledged are Indian Urdu poets in Pakistan? Firaq Gorakhpuri, Ali Sardar Jafri or smaller guys like Kaifi Azmi and Sahir Ludhiyanwi.

I have zero knowledge of Urdu literature. So can someone enlighten me on waht is the stature of Indian Urdu poets in Urdu.

sabah · May 20, 1999, 6:50am

Fraudia jee

Pehle to yeh bataein ke aap ki is list mein Insha jee, aur kisi female poet ka naam kion nahin hai. I'm not sure but Momin Khan Momin bhi isi century ke nahin the??

Doosre koi example deinge pleease Faraaz sahib ka

Iqbal aur Ghalib jee ke ba'd Faiz is great, dekhiye:
(Aap ko Urdu paRhne mein mushkil to nahin hoti??)

Bunyaad Kuch to ho

Koe sitam ki hamshi kuch to ho
kuch to kaho sitam-kasho feryaad kuch to ho
baidaad gar se shikwa baidad kuch to ho
bolo, keh shor-e-hashar ki aejaad kuch to ho
marne chale to satoot-e-qaatil ka khauf kya
itna to ho ke baandhne pae na dast-o-pa
maqtal mein to kuch to rang jame jashn-e-raqs ka
rangeeeN lahoo se banjah-e-sayaad kuch to ho
khoon per gawah-e-daaman jillad kuch to ho
jan hoo nibha talab kaerin bunyaad kuch to ho
Gar tan nahin zabaN sahi aazaad kuch to ho
dashnaam nalah hau ho feryaad kuch to ho
cheehe hai dard, ae dil barbaad kuch to ho
bolo, ke shor-e-hashar ki aijaad kuch to ho
bolo, ke roz-e-adal ki bunyaad kuch to ho

W'salaam
saba

[This message has been edited by sabah (edited May 20, 1999).]

Mr_Fraudia · May 20, 1999, 12:43pm

Saba

Urdu Parrhnay mein mushkil naheen hoti magar english alphabet mein urdu likhnay aur parrhnay mein thorri si mushkil hoti hai.

I did not give a list out for people to choose from, I had just asked them to suggest who their favourite poet is and gave a few examples. As far as women in poetry go, I like Parvin Shakir. As far as Iqbal and Ghalib go, as much as I like them there are two issues.

1) Ghalib is not from this century, the question was, the poet of the century, and by that I meant the current century, someone who has written in the last 99 years. Otherwise we can add the names of Mir, Dard, Hali etc to the list.

2) Iqbal is probably among my top few favourite poets, but I chose Faraz because he is more in touch with issues of our times. I like newer poets, I dont know if you ever heard of Mehmood Ghaznawi (the poet not the leader/warrior) he is the same. When I read their poetry it charges me up.

Mr_Fraudia · June 10, 2001, 8:09am

so like...did we decide who the best poet is and why?

Asif · June 13, 2001, 12:48am

This question is one which can generate a lot of debate!!

If we include all poets from 1899 to 2001 then without doubt most Urdu shanaas and professional maahiraan e Urdu aur ahle zabaan would say Iqbal. Ghalib died in 1860 odd. Mir even before Ghalib!! And in Urdu the top three are considered by nearly every critic as Ghalib, Mir, Iqbal. Now only Iqbal falls within the time period you mentioned of these top three therefore he is the best

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As for Faiz he is very good but I don’t think he is at the level of the top three above. Haan he is certainly the most important PAKISTANI poet (the other three are all Indians). Ahmad Faraz sahib bhi acche hain–mujhe bahut pasand hain par mere khyaal mein aalami sattah par dekha jaaye tau sirf Mir, Ghalib aur guzashtah saddi mein Iqbal hii iss darjah pe poora uttar te hain. Aur jitna kaam bain al-iqwaamii naqaadoN ne Iqbal pe kiya hai itna aur kissi doosre urdu shaa’ir par nahin huwa. Ghalib poar bhi nahin…

Mere khyaal mein Ghalib, Mir aur Iqbal kay baad kayee naam hain jo shumaar-e-chahaaram pe muntakhib kiye jaa sajkte hain…Faiz, Faraz, Sahir, Firaq, (agar hum sirf 20ween saddi kay shu’ara kay naam istimaal karein tau)…

ZZ as for your question without doubt there is no prejudice towards the Urdu poets from India either. They are given their due and their divaans are v. popular–Firaq Gorakhpuri, Sahir Ludhiyaanvi, Sardar Jaafri, Hasrat Mohani, Hasrat Jaipuri, Jigar Muradabadi, etc. etc. and at a lower standard Kaifi Azmi, Javed Akhtar etc.

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khan_sahib · June 13, 2001, 1:20pm

** Ibn-e-Insha**

I know that Ghalib, Mir, Iqbal and Faiz had their own style but they all have covered only certain topics like love, ishq-e-haqeeqi, Islam, or society waghera waghera.

If you read Ibn-e-Insha then you would realise that he has covered topics such as:

[li]Famine in Africa (yeh bacha kis ka bacha hai)[/li][li]Muslims condition in general (deewar-e-girya)[/li][li]Daily Life (jalay to jaloo gori)[/li][*]Love (kal chaudhweeN ki raat thi, shab bhar raha charcha tera)

AliBeta · June 14, 2001, 5:54am

I think for Females as Sabah mentioned it has to be Parveen Shakir. As for Shayer I have to say Allamah Iqbal. And this is not just because of patriotic reasons but listening to his shayeri gives such saroor to the mind. Its just unexplainable!