Who will do it?

That’s the question?

Gavaskar has 34 centuries:

Tendulkar has 31, Steve Waugh has 31. Who will be the first one to break Gavaskar’s record. I remember someone said on this board last summer that Tendulkar will be at 34 or 35 centuries by this summer. That he will break Gavaskar’s record is not in doubt, barring any unforseen accident. But who will get there first, Tendi or Waugh?

Also will Waugh break Border’s record of most runs in tests before he retires. Border scored 11,174 runs and Waugh is at 10,365?

My prediction:

Waugh will be the first one to break Gavskar’s record and he will also break Border’s record.

Tendulkar will in turn break Waugh’s records.

Yes Ehsan , I share ur opinion.

Whoever gets to play Bangladesh first will get to 35 centuries first.

well Waugh will play two tests against another weak side ZIM .... he can carry 2 hundreds from it

on the otherhand Tendi is gonna play NZ at home which also may result in 2 hundreds from it

all comes down to the AUS vs. IND series in downunder late this year where i think Waugh holds the advantage playing in home conditions ....

So for its Mr. Iceman (bearing in mind AUSSIE attack will make Tendi work quite hard for runs whereas Waugh may face less troubles in playing IND attack)

considering the upcoming oppositon for either player's teams, Waugh should get there first.

Re: Who will do it?

Oh yes - That’s a biggy - Steven Waugh needs to make 553 runs to break the All-Time leading Test Match Record Runs by Allan Border - I think Steven will be able to do that against India in Nov-Feb(2003-2004) and gets another milestone in front of his home-crowd.

Btw ehsan, you are missing 156 & 100 knocks of Steve’s against Bangladesh from his total 10,365 runs in the Test Cricket - Steven has 32 centuries(behind all time leader Sunil Gavaskar) - and has made 10,621 runs in the Test Cricket - I know his profile hasn’t been updated but I’ve been following Steven’s each landmark pretty closely.

Steven Waugh now also moves on to 39 Test Match victories - I think he would now have to win every match he has left in charge to get to 50 test wins - If he does retire at the end of next year - I think that will be one thing left he will want to do along with touring India and winning.

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Thanks for the correction Talha.

Can you also confirm that Waugh is the only batsmen to have scored 150 against every test playing nation.

Its confirmed, he has scored against every country.

Updated career statistics of Steve Waugh.



Career Statistics:TESTS
 (including 25/07/2003)
                      M    I  NO  Runs   HS     Ave     SR 100  50   Ct  St
Batting & Fielding  162  251  45 10521  200   51.07  48.45  **32**  46  109   0

                      O      M     R    W    Ave   BBI    5  10    SR  Econ
Bowling            1252.5  324  3320   91  36.48  5-28    3   0  82.6  2.64



Steve Waugh’s 150’s against every test playing nation. Great effort.
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156* against Bangladesh

152 * against England

150 against India

151* against New Zealand

157 against Pakistan

164 against South Africa

170 against Srilanka

199 against West Indies

151 * against Zimbabwe
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Sachin Tendulkar



Career Statistics:
TESTS
 (including 19/12/2002)
                      M    I  NO  Runs   HS     Ave 100  50   Ct  St
Batting & Fielding  105  169  16  8811  217   57.58  **31**  35   68   0

                      O      M     R    W    Ave   BBI    5  10    SR  Econ
Bowling             381     62  1220   27  45.18  3-10    0   0  84.6  3.20



Just another point of interest. Tendulkar have a 150 agaisnt every test playing nation except for Bangladesh, Pakistan & Srilanka. I am sure he will easily get one agaisnt Bangldesh. I am surprised he does not have one against Srilanka though he does have a couple of score of 140's. Interestingly despite not being able to score a 150 agaisnt Srilanka he has enjoyed great scuccess agaisnt them. He averages over 80 agaisnt Srilanka. Agaisnt Pakistan though he average around 32. So I guess he'll have to work hard on getting 150 agiasnt Pakistan, the other two should come easily for a player of his calibre.

This is an intresting discussion
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/xml/uncomp/articleshow?msid=99682.

I think definitly Steve will reach there first but eventually Sachin will will go way past it.

What is amazing is that Steve has got 32 centuries batting at no 5 or 6.That makes it all the more commendable.But then he had played 160 test matches also.If Tendulkar plays so much he will be probably at 50.
Having said that ..I must say that when it comes to TEST cricket I will always put Gavaskar ahead of Sachin and Steve for the fact that he scored 13 centuires againt West Indies when they probbaly had all time best bowling lineup.Infect during his days even AUS and ENG had great bowling lineups.

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*Originally posted by LahoriMunda: *
Just another point of interest. Tendulkar have a 150 agaisnt every test playing nation except for Bangladesh, Pakistan & Srilanka. I am sure he will easily get one agaisnt Bangldesh. I am surprised he does not have one against Srilanka though he does have a couple of score of 140's. Interestingly despite not being able to score a 150 agaisnt Srilanka he has enjoyed great scuccess agaisnt them. He averages over 80 agaisnt Srilanka. Agaisnt Pakistan though he average around 32. So I guess he'll have to work hard on getting 150 agiasnt Pakistan, the other two should come easily for a player of his calibre.
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Well I think getting 150 shouldnot be a big criteria for anything. Its probably more of a luck thing that he didnt make 150 againt SL.
As far as pakistan is concerned he hasnt played much test matches against them thanks to politics.

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*Originally posted by fair_&_balance: *

What is amazing is that Steve has got 32 centuries batting at no 5 or 6.That makes it all the more commendable.b][But then he had played 160 test matches also.If Tendulkar plays so much he will be probably at 50.**
Having said that ..I must say that when it comes to TEST cricket I will always put Gavaskar ahead of Sachin and Steve for the fact that he scored 13 centuires againt West Indies when they probbaly had all time best bowling lineup.Infect during his days even AUS and ENG had great bowling lineups.
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What a nonsense theory, so are you saying that just because Wasim Akram played more one dayers then any other fast bowlers and thats why he has 500+ wickets.
Its not the quantity but its the quality that matters.
For someone like Steve Waugh to come in and score centuries regardless of some of the best batsmen in the world above the order that shows quite alot.
And btw, Allan Border did play as many matches but he didn't score 30 centuries.

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*Originally posted by fair_&_balance: *

Well I think getting 150 shouldnot be a big criteria for anything. Its probably more of a luck thing that he didnt make 150 againt SL.
As far as pakistan is concerned he hasnt played much test matches against them thanks to politics.
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Scoring 150 isn't an easy task, it takes alot of efforts and talent to accomplish that feat be it against Bangladesh or against Pakistan, scoring 150 runs is always a joy. And doing it against all other 9 test playing nation is big accomplishment and should be given credit regardless of how much amount of hatred you have.

Yes, That is also one of the factors.

Are you telling me that there is no difference in Don Bradman scoring 29 centuries in 59 tests and Steve Waugh scoring 29 Centuries in 150 Tests ?? :hehe:

The fact that Bradman played @ number 3 and Waugh played @ at 5 or 6 tells a huge difference.
Unlike Waugh, Bradman never had the likes of Mark Waugh, Matthew Hayden, Ponting, Martyn, Langer playing above him him.
The other 2 top centuy scorers were openers, and opening batsmen always have higher chance of scoring centuries then someone coming @ 5 or 6.

Umair316 - Somehow you are not suggesting that Steve Waugh is a better batsman than Sir Don Bradman, Are you ? :hehe:

BTW - Did you find out how steve Waugh performed whenever he was given a chance to bat at no. 3/4. One Word - Pathetic

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*Originally posted by UMAIR316: *

What a nonsense theory, so are you saying that just because Wasim Akram played more one dayers then any other fast bowlers and thats why he has 500+ wickets.
Its not the quantity but its the quality that matters.
For someone like Steve Waugh to come in and score centuries regardless of some of the best batsmen in the world above the order that shows quite alot.
And btw, Allan Border did play as many matches but he didn't score 30 centuries.
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Based on same logic will you say that Kapil was better bowler than Imran and Waqar ,after all he got more wickets. ;)
Or Border was better batsman than Minadad..well Border scored more TEST runs and centuries.
Let me know?? dont pick and choose your logic whenever it suits you?