Re: who started it, Israel or Hezbollah? (split from Should Pakistan support Arabs)
You are still in your warped mentality that Hezbollah = Syria.
And you still think the Hezbollah that protected your family is the same as todays. It wasn't to long ago that Nasrallah was kissing Syria's ass publicly, Lebanon's independence be damned.
Re: who started it, Israel or Hezbollah? (split from Should Pakistan support Arabs)
The Israelis started it by abducting both the Palestianian civilians in Gaza and Lebonese citizens from Lebonon, just before the Israelis terrorist soldier was captured by Palestinians in Gaza...
Re: who started it, Israel or Hezbollah? (split from Should Pakistan support Arabs)
How has it changed? Please provide proof.
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It wasn't to long ago that Nasrallah was kissing Syria's ass publicly, Lebanon's independence be damned.
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Funny, people who make such statements have no qualms of sacrificing Lebanese independence to the Israelis or Americans. Cedar Revolution is dead, and is a blip on Lebanese history.
Re: who started it, Israel or Hezbollah? (split from Should Pakistan support Arabs)
you and your fantasies OG. They seem to have no end.
**
Hezbollah captures two Israeli soldiers**
**By IANS **
Wednesday July 12, 04:01 PM
Beirut, July 12 (DPA) The Lebanese Shiite Hezbollah movement announced Wednesday that its guerrillas have captured two Israeli soldiers in southern Lebanon.
‘Implementing our promise to free Arab prisoners in Israeli jails, our strugglers have captured two Israeli soldiers in southern Lebanon,’ a statement by Hezbollah said.
‘The two soldiers have already been moved to a safe place,’ it added.
The Lebanese police said that the two soldiers were captured as they ‘infiltrated’ into the town of Aitaa al-Chaab inside the Lebanese border.
Israeli aircraft were active in the air over southern Lebanon, the police said, with jets bombing roads leading to the market town of Nabatiyeh, 60 Kilometres south of Beirut.
Lebanese security sources told DPA that the planes were bombarding roads, which might be used by Hezbollah guerrillas.
http://in.news.yahoo.com/060712/43/65tzi.html
The soldiers were captured in Aaita al chaab, a town inside lebanon. Therefore they were on the **wrong **side of the border and perfectly legit targets to be captured and imprisoned.
Re: who started it, Israel or Hezbollah? (split from Should Pakistan support Arabs)
what? was it "ouch" that I heard?
Re: who started it, Israel or Hezbollah? (split from Should Pakistan support Arabs)
With regards to what is going on in Lebanon - Hezbolla captured SOLDIERS in exchange of Lebanese prisoners who have been in captivity for years - perhaps they've used similar tactics to those used by Israel previously?
What I do know though is that Hezbolla DID NOT KIDNAP or target any civilians even if they were captured on Israeli territoy. Israel on the other hand started its sophisticated military assault killing hundreds of Lebanese civilians and utterly destroying the cities for the lives of its two soldiers. They say they regret the loss of life - they don't aim at killing civilians but why is it that their sophisticated weaponry cannot hit the right target? Or is the right target the elimination of the Arab and Muslim people? Is history repeating itself? Is this not worse than the Holocaust? How many innocent Muslims have been killed over 50 or more years? No one remembers them but those who perished during the Holocaust are remembered relgiously. It goes to show that Muslims are expendable but not those of other religions.
Re: who started it, Israel or Hezbollah? (split from Should Pakistan support Arabs)
DaBest your beloved Hezbollah went from protector (in your eyes) and has shown the world that it wants conflict (amassing over 10,000 missiles) and you accept that which after years of Hezbollah brainwashing it's not surprising. How many times have you heard how Hezbollah stood up and saved you and your family now it's your duty to support them?
Re: who started it, Israel or Hezbollah? (split from Should Pakistan support Arabs)
How did Hezbollah show it wants conflict? Every nation in the world has the right to defend itself from terrorist states such as Israel.
Re: who started it, Israel or Hezbollah? (split from Should Pakistan support Arabs)
whats the purpose of no. of missiles?
Re: who started it, Israel or Hezbollah? (split from Should Pakistan support Arabs)
First time was from you.
Re: who started it, Israel or Hezbollah? (split from Should Pakistan support Arabs)
utd…your attempts to ‘unbrainwash’ are amusing to say the least. 
Re: who started it, Israel or Hezbollah? (split from Should Pakistan support Arabs)
First of all, the sources in that article, Hizbullah, and the local police, bought and paid for by Hizbullah, lie.
Read the following, first published in 2002. It makes clear that the cross border incursion behavior of Hizbullah has been consistant, and their desire to kidnap soldiers has been common knowledge since at least 2002. Israel would not have a squad of *reservists *infiltrating. That kind of job is done by well seasoned and well trained active duty Army, not part timers.
Changes in Hizballah’s Tactics
Hizballah’s behavior since Israel’s May 2000 withdrawal from southern Lebanon leaves little doubt that the organization, which enjoys Syrian and Iranian sponsorship, is committed to a continuous armed confrontation with Israel until, in the words of its leader Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah, “the liberation of Jerusalem” (see PeaceWatch 365 for analysis of Hizballah activities between the Israeli withdrawal and early 2002). There are several unsettling trends in Hizballah’s recent behavior that deserve special attention:
• Crossborder attacks beyond the Shebaa Farms. Until recently, Hizballah’s fire was directed at the Mount Dov area next to Shebaa Farms—the 750 acres Lebanon claims as its territory, without UN support. In the past two weeks, however, Hizballah has expanded its circle of fire to IDF bases on Mount Hermon and the northern part of the Golan Heights. In addition, Israeli communities in Galilee have come under artillery fire, and at least one incident involved the use of antitank missiles. Such activities show that Hizballah is willing to challenge Israel in other sectors of the border, and that its war against Israel goes beyond the limited objective of Shebaa Farms.
• Involvement in crossborder infiltration. During Israel’s occupation of southern Lebanon, Hizballah refrained from attempts to cross the border and carry out attacks against targets inside Israel.** In the past month, however, there have been several attacks against IDF outposts in Mount Dov, with Hizballah gunmen attempting to infiltrate these positions and perhaps seize them. Hizballah is also suspected of involvement in a March 12 infiltration in which Palestinian terrorists shot at cars near Kibbutz Matzuva, killing six Israelis and wounding seven others. **
Re: who started it, Israel or Hezbollah? (split from Should Pakistan support Arabs)
source please..? lol.
Re: who started it, Israel or Hezbollah? (split from Should Pakistan support Arabs)
He himself is the source!
Re: who started it, Israel or Hezbollah? (split from Should Pakistan support Arabs)
The purpose is rather clear, it wants conflict with Israel. We're not talking about a nations army but a militant group who has 10,000 missiles, they've hijacked the country and brought them to war.
Re: who started it, Israel or Hezbollah? (split from Should Pakistan support Arabs)
the soldiers went missing INSIDE LEBANESE territory.. .
and those that even don't know this basic fact should go back and read REAL news before coming in copy pasting stupid boring opinion pieces from third rate israeli firsters..
Re: who started it, Israel or Hezbollah? (split from Should Pakistan support Arabs)
And we hear the same propaganda line yet again from the supporters of tyranny, with no proof to back it up.
Re: who started it, Israel or Hezbollah? (split from Should Pakistan support Arabs)
I was hoping that you knew Hezbollah is ruling the Lebanon (not thru "government" tho).
Re: who started it, Israel or Hezbollah? (split from Should Pakistan support Arabs)
Dear illiterate folks. Please read the articles that I post. What is happening now is a virtual carbon copy of 2002. To the letter. Figure it out for yourselves:
S*ince March 28, 2002, the first day of Operation Defensive Shield—Israel's attempt to dismantle the Palestinian terrorist infrastructure—Lebanese Hizballah fighters have attacked northern Israeli settlements and military outposts on an almost daily basis. These unprovoked attacks have included the use of antitank missiles, mortars, katyusha rockets, and antiaircraft weapons directed at Israeli military and civilian aircraft.* Among the towns attacked have been Shlomi, Kiryat Shmona, Moshav Beit Hillel, and the Allawite village Ghajar, where Hizballah fire wounded five residents, including three children. In an April 7 Hizballah attack on a military outpost in the western sector (a significant distance from the Shebaa Farms area), seven Israel Defense Forces (IDF) soldiers—five of them women—were wounded. Despite these provocations, Israel has indicated that it does not wish to open a second front against Hizballah, the Lebanese army, or Syria. Yet, Prime Minister Ariel Sharon recently stated, "We are demonstrating restraint and are not interested in an escalation in the violence, but we cannot hold back for much longer," indicating that Israel's patience is about to run out and that harsh military response is imminent.
Any of this sound familiar? It's not as if Lebanon and Hizbullah were not warned four years ago that further border attacks would not bring a very harsh response. Very simply, Hizbullah repeated the precise attack of April 7th 2002, when seven Israeli soldiers were attacked in an exact copy of the most recent attack. Except this time Areil Sharon was not around to demonstrate "restraint". These idiots were warned, and this time they miscalculated. They figure anytime the Palestinians are rebelling, they will make things more complicated. This time they did it and it cost them a great deal of their country. They screwed up and miscalcualted the response to their little adventure.
Re: who started it, Israel or Hezbollah? (split from Should Pakistan support Arabs)
They certainly are C1 and look where they have taken the country too.