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If you want to volunteer to bring bad people to justice by all means do. And if you think Zia was good for Pakistan, than you're entitled to your opinion & we just have to disagree on that. Just like you, I'm entitled to my opinion, and in my OPINION he got what he deserved. The end.
Yes he deserved to be a martyr and he became a martyr
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If you want to volunteer to bring bad people to justice by all means do. And if you think Zia was good for Pakistan, than you're entitled to your opinion & we just have to disagree on that. Just like you, I'm entitled to my opinion, and in my OPINION he got what he deserved. The end.
Fair enough. But remember that taliban said the same thing about Malala and they volunteered to bring her to justice.
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Fair enough. But remember that taliban said the same thing about Malala and they volunteered to bring her to justice.
When did going to school become a criminal offense? Btw, military coups are treasonous action according Pakistani constitution & punishment for that is death penalty.
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Yes he deserved to be a martyr and he became a martyr
Sorry, he was no martyr...more like munafiq & is probably burning in hell (if there is one).
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When did going to school become a criminal offense?....
In Talibans' OPINION she is a bad girl and must be killed. There is no need for a trial. That's how justice works in your 'no-so-ideal' world, no?
Btw, military coups are treasonous action according Pakistani constitution & punishment for that is death penalty.
LOL... coming back to 'law' now? Yes, please have his posthumous trial and sentence him to death a 100 times. I have no problems with that. Saying that there is no need for investigation because in your opinion he was a bad guy, is a little naive.
According to constitution of Pakistan, should that death penalty be carried out by private (possibly foreign) people without a trial too?
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Sorry, he was no martyr...more like munafiq & is probably burning in hell (if there is one).
He will be in heaven for serving Muslims and defending Muslims and bringing people close to Islam
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When did going to school become a criminal offense? Btw, military coups are treasonous action according Pakistani constitution & punishment for that is death penalty.
Martial Law by definition means that constitution is set aside as the system has failed and the state is in great danger, so how can it be treasonous? The US war against Iraq was illegal so who is going to hang Bush? Israels occupation of Arab lands is illegal. How can you argue on the one hand that might is right and on the other than it is wrong. BTW wasn't Bhutto also a Martial Law Administrator at one time?
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Martial Law by definition means that constitution is set aside as the system has failed and the state is in great danger, so how can it be treasonous? The US war against Iraq was illegal so who is going to hang Bush? Israels occupation of Arab lands is illegal. How can you argue on the one hand that might is right and on the other than it is wrong. BTW wasn't Bhutto also a Martial Law Administrator at one time?
Martial Law is illegal under the constitution of Pakistan whether by military or by civilians. Cannot justify Martial law. Military cannot over rule the constitution.
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True, but there has to be a reason why it must be known? It most cases it has to with bringing criminal to justice (in criminal cases), but in this case I could careless.
Yes, in ideal situation Bashar Al-assad, Saddam Hussein, Pol Pot, Gadaffi, etc., should've all faced justice in a court of law, but we don't live in ideal world. Sometime bad men just have to go...w/o miranda rights & thats ok with me.
If the victims kill the offender, u could say that, like what happend to Qaddafi, Saddam's case followed course of law. Zia wasn't killed by his victims, hence, it does beg the question, who and why?
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Fair enough, but that is collateral damage. If you hang out with bad people...bad things will happen to you. And how is this any diff than killing Osama bin Laden along with his body guards and the cook? The point is, if Zia (or Mush for that matter) was brought to justice in court of law for treason that would have been ideal thing to do, but if he was killed that is ok, too. I only wish had he been taken out earlier the damage to the nation may not have been this bad & next 5 generations would not have to pay for Zia's crimes.
Thats a taliban ideology.
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He will be in heaven for serving Muslims and defending Muslims and bringing people close to Islam
Which muslims did he serve or defend. Oh yes you must be referring to the massacare he carried out of Palestinians on the orders of King Hussein in Jordan. A third rate pathetic person. He never defended his country against Indian agression during 1965 or 1971. Care to list his achievements during these wars. He also lost Siachen to India and failed yet again to defend his country or muslims. He sure will be bruning in hell for eternity.
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If the victims kill the offender, u could say that, like what happend to Qaddafi, Saddam's case followed course of law. Zia wasn't killed by his victims, hence, it does beg the question, who and why?
The entire nation was & many generations to come are his victims. Everything that is happening today can be traced back to him & his rule.
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The entire nation was & many generations to come are his victims. Everything that is happening today can be traced back to him & his rule.
The things started during bhuttos regime, he took them forward.
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freemasons
Accepted masons mostly, not too many free masons around
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The question should not be how bad or good Zia might have been.
The question should be how to deal with 'bad' people.
One may agree yes Zia was not a saint and caused a lot of grief to a lot of people.
But,
Assaisination and killing innocent lives is not humane and should not be considered legitimate method.
*This is sickening to see someone promoting mass murder, indiscriminate killing and blood shed repeatedly. *
What can we do about this same as talibanic disgusted mentality?
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Which muslims did he serve or defend. Oh yes you must be referring to the massacare he carried out of Palestinians on the orders of King Hussein in Jordan. A third rate pathetic person. He never defended his country against Indian agression during 1965 or 1971. Care to list his achievements during these wars. He also lost Siachen to India and failed yet again to defend his country or Muslims. He sure will be burning in hell for eternity.
He defended Muslims from Russian attack he participated in wars and he served for Muslims in the whole world and also brought people close to Islam that is why secular traitors hate him
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but but but jamaat e islaami was anti zia on many occasions, are they secular traitors? or just regular traitors?
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but but but jamaat e islaami was anti zia on many occasions, are they secular traitors? or just regular traitors?
I am talking about secular traitors and when on earth Jamat e Islami was Anti Zia Most who oppose Zia in fact use his name to bash Islam or Islamic Laws paid NGOS and their touts
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when on earth was jamaat e islaami anti zia?
polish up on your history, like always they threw their toys out of the pram when they did not get their way.
may want to read up on ghafoor ahmed and tufail mohammad’s statements about zia
oh look here is munawwar hussain talking about JI being oppossed to zia
Zia-ul-haq only opposed by Jamaat-e-Islami. Syed Munawar Hassan - YouTube