Who is supporting Pak: India decided to support ICC- BD, SL supporting PK

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tsk..tsk..
You didnot get the sarcasm. Point was that India is not dependent on India-Pak series for revenue as Pak is. We know what happened to PCB's finances when India didnot played them for 10 yrs. Isnt it a fact?

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Thank you for disiguishing between a good conversation and a hate post. More people like you are needed here.

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Alright guys no personal attacks please

F&B, yes alot of Pakistanis are emotionally charged and there is nothing wrong about it, specially if your national pride is on line. No one expects you to understand this situation, but atleast you can try not to infuriate the situation here on this forum

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Two things: The match was abandoned by hair and he also refused to come out when the players of both sides agreed to play. He was just being a stubborn brat and idiot, which he is.

seocndly: everyone gets emotional when it is their side involved, remember India and Tendulkar ball tampering. You need to check your posts from that era here.

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No there was no hint of sarcasm as some Pakistani stadiums aren't full specially in Test matches..... and in case of Ind visiting Pak I believe major benefitter is Pak than Ind.

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So basically you dont want a different point of view. As a moderator I think you need to lose some of your patritism fever.You should encourage good debate. You want hoard of sheeps following the better groomed sheep. Why have a discussion board then?

Here is my point dude.... This issue is three fold..

  1. Conduct of Hair regarding ball tempering: His action definitly looks dubious considering there was nothing caught on Camera. But then TV cannot catch every action on field. We cannot pass judegement unless ICC gets Hair's side of story. If there is no process to get this information then ICC needs to be lambasted.

  2. Pakistani Boycott of test Match: It was stupid things to do. Associating this issue to national pride and stuff is stupid. This sounds like chest thumping patriotism which I see in India also by safron brigade. At the end of the day this is just a bloody game. Pakistani team could have handled it better. They should have waited till evening or end of game. Played under protest. There are different ways to protest and get it fixed. Unfair things happen with different teams all the time. They dont walk out.

  3. Hair's Conduct after the boycott: Here I salute Hair for what he did. We need more people like him who can standup for the law of the game and enforce it to words without fearing for his job. He went upt o Pakistani Captian asked him to come to play and when he didnot then he simply announced England as winner. Bravo... !!! Good job.. I bet Pakistani team didnot see it coming... Take your patriotism hat out and look at this angle as if involved team is not Pakistan but West Indies then you will see widom of my argument.

So if you guys are protesting number 1 issue there then I am with you. But not with other issues.

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Number 1 is the real issue, don't care much about #2 as #1 is the root cause. He didn't identify any bowler and no proof has been provided yet that it was infact the team who was tampering the ball.

Na hota 1 na baari ati 2 ki ya 3 ki.

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Hair abandoned it because team refused to play. He was just doing his job. This would have set a precent that people can arm twist. You dont want that next time when there is a LBW decision against India, Indian team walks out untill the decision is reversed. I am sure it wont be pleasent and sportive.

2nd Issue....It was not in the middle of the game. That is the big difference.

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But I dont think all the people here agree with you. Look at Ehsan pa's post above. He is upset that Hair didnot comeout to resume the game.

Now considering that number 1 happened, that still doesnt justify the boycott. It definitly raises finger on hair and it could have been done in better way.

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May be you can ask ehsan bhai or fkhan2 to have a poll if the real issue is #1 or #2.... but you probably missed many other threads where almost everyone identified 1 as the core.... 2 and 3 are the byproducts of 1.

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fair_&_balance, Coming in and out is not an issue. Pakistan is not saying anything about it, they accept the decision of losing the game and series whatever and Inzamam is ready for penalty. He is the one who is ready for any action taken by ICC not Darrel who is making excuses after excuses. Hair needs to show proof. What happened after tea is not an issue any more. Pakistan penalized for it and that is that.

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Yes I do want a different point of view but no an irrelevant one, which is only posted to make someone who is already angry really mad. Learn something from recent experience. You don't have to go too far to find a similar case.

And you want more people like that idiot in this game who can stand up for the law??????

Are you kidding me? Who are you talking about? The guy who cannot interpret the laws of the game and makes a mockery of the game infront of the whole world and gets aways with it. Inzi's run out last year was nothing in comparison to this recent stunt. How can you justify his action of calling Pakistan "cheats" without any proof.

Most of the critics are labelling him a pighead and you want more guys like him.

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lets see what hair has to say on friday in his defence...if he had made this decision based on the condition of the ball then charges against pak should be dropped.

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Wohi to meiN keh raha hooN itni deir sey — it started wrong so it ended wrong!

By the way, where is WAQAR YOUNIS these days? :bummer:

PEPSI or COKE???
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Yaar koi Hair removal cream nahi milti England meiN? :bummer:

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Big difference between LBW and calling someone a cheat.

2nd issue: Holding ICC to ransom and playing Tendulkar in a match from which he was banned, surely no sane person could have supported it but emotional charged Indian fans. The Indian board blackmailed ICC on the strength of its financial muscle and all of you supported it knowing full well that it was wrong.

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Wish everybody said it as clealry as you did.

But what you think put the game to disrepute...... 1 or 2 below ....

  1. An umpire who decided that Ball tempering is happening.
  2. Or first time in 129 of Cricket History , a Captain who walked out of the game.
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F&B,
Thou are a honorable cricket fan, I second your ideas.

This entire episode has been farcical, Hairy dude was within his right to enforce the law but his style of umpiring leaves many questions unanswered. Fact is, he was given charge of this test match, if Pakistan had any problems with his history they sud have refused right from the begining. When he penalized Pakistan for ball tampering we continued to play on for 15overs w/o any protest. Darryl Hair applied the rules of the game as he understood them, if anyone has a problem with that then he sud file his complaints with the ICC, but they cannot refuse to play and then agree to play after the Umpire has enforced forfeiture based on rules stated and agreed by all parties.

Rules are made for all to understand and abide by, if Pakistan did not agree with the Umpires decision they had official venues to lodge their protests, boycotts are not an acceptable method of protest.

I have been saying this from the begining, Pakistan will find itself isolated when push comes to shove and we will have nothing but embarrassment.

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fair_&_balance, Umpire because if you read what Inzamam said is that he did not have any idea why Darrel was behaving like that. Darrel should have at least warned Inzi or the person who he suspects was tampering. He did neither, his fault moreover when Inzi went to ask question, he kept ignoring him. Every commentator said that Darrel did not handle the situation properly and still he is not coming clean with proof. I mean everyone saw what happened what is there to hide, why keep the situation foggy and make a mockery of cricket. He is holding cricket hostage, in a sport where we emphasize on respecting officials even when they are wrong unlike other sports. He is not doing his job properly and seems to be riding the “respect the official train”. He is the one to blame. Yes, forfeiting the game was bad but Pakistan penalize for it. End of story.

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again: na hota 1 na bari ati 2 ki