If we count all above posts, there are many-many in favor of OBL, in favor of his way of revenge, his way of bloodshed.
I wonder, what are the reasons for so much thrust for blood?
count them please, before you actually make a hypothesis. count the ones calling for blood.
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i suggest u to read history..........
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Dear usmanjunooni,
Sinse the middle ages Palestine has not been free state or country governed solely by Palestinians.
Not the Jews or Palestinians had self governed homeland in the middle ages... 1500's til.....
Not until recent history was Jewish state of Israel established.
I don't support Jewish settlements of areas originally designated for Palestinians.
I do support establishment of Jewish state.
I also support the establishment of a Palestinian state which was promised.
I don't support the ideal that Jewish state does not have the right to exist.
I don't support violence instigated by soldiers or bombers.
1516-1917
Palestine incorporated into the Ottoman state and administered from Istanbul.
1917
- November: The Balfour declaration - UK foreign minister declares support towards establishing a Jewish state in Palestine.
1918
- September: British forces, led by Gen. Allenby, occupy Palestine
- October: World War I ends.
1918
After WW I ended, Jews began to migrate to Palestine, which was set a side as a British mandate with approval of the League of Nations in 1922. Large-scale Jewish settlement and extensive Zionist agricultural and industrial enterprises in Palestine began during the British mandatory period, which lasted until 1948.
1929
Large-scale attacks on Jews by Arabs rocked Jerusalem. Palestinians killed 133 Jews and suffered 116 deaths. Sparked by a dispute over use of the Western Wall of Al-Aqsa Mosque ( this site is sacred to Muslims, but Jews believe that it is the remains of the Temple.)
Roots of the conflict lay in Arab fears of the movement which aimed to make at least part of British-administered Palestine a Jewish state.
1947
Great Britain decided to leave Palestine and called on the United Nations (UN) to make recommendations. In response, the UN convened its first special session and on November 29, 1947, it adopted a plan calling for partition of Palestine into Jewish and Arab states, with Jerusalem as an international zone under UN jurisdiction.
1947
Arab protests against partition erupted in violence, with attacks on Jewish settlements in retalation to the attacks of Jews to Arab Towns and villages and massacres against Palestinians.
15 May 1948
British decided to leave on this day, leaders of the Yishuv decided (as they claim) to implement that part of the partition plan calling for establishment of a Jewish state.
The same day, the armies of Egypt, Transjordan (now Jordan), Syria, Lebanon, and Iraq joined Palestinian and other Arabs in a full-scale war (first Arab-Israeli War).
The Arabs failed to prevent establishment of a Jewish state, and the war ended with four UN-arranged armistice agreements between Israel and Egypt, Lebanon, Jordan, and Syria.
Re: Who does Osama think he is?
Nadia,
Did he appear to you in a dream and suggest this?
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**Nadia Ji* - I agree this thread has been stretched out. In nine months that I have been on this board this thread has doubled my posts. :D
I am so envious of you that you not only met Denis Halliday but had dinner with him too! I would have been happy just to shake his hand.
So true, just shows what a scum of leaders we have. Spineless crawling maggots.
Allah guide us all - Allah Hafiz
AvgAmericanGirl
1) Maybe as a cover so that it is not so obvious that he is co-operating. Did he follow up after the damaging statements?
Come on...you can do better than that.
2) Denis Halliday?
?????????
3) If the thinking and speaking doesn’t get results the sincere people threaten or tend in their resignations and this mostly gets them the required results.
IMHO... nieve answer.
4) Yes, because hopefully the new Secretary General would try to be a Secretary General to UN and not a USA Liaison officer to UN.
What new secretary general? Pretend a new one. What do you think thiis body would say? Whatever do you wish???
And this one would be better than Kofi in your opinion?
5) No. 4 contains the answer.
Don't think so.
I think we gone way off the topic at hand.
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*Originally posted by PurelyAvgGirl: *
Dear usmanjunooni,
Sinse the middle ages Palestine has not been free state or country governed solely by Palestinians.
Not the Jews or Palestinians had self governed homeland in the middle ages... 1500's til.....
Not until recent history was Jewish state of Israel established.
I don't support Jewish settlements of areas originally designated for Palestinians.
I do support establishment of Jewish state.
I also support the establishment of a Palestinian state which was promised.
I don't support the ideal that Jewish state does not have the right to exist.
I don't support violence instigated by soldiers or bombers.
1516-1917
Palestine incorporated into the Ottoman state and administered from Istanbul.
1917
- November: The Balfour declaration - UK foreign minister declares support towards establishing a Jewish state in Palestine.
1918
- September: British forces, led by Gen. Allenby, occupy Palestine
- October: World War I ends.
1918
After WW I ended, Jews began to migrate to Palestine, which was set a side as a British mandate with approval of the League of Nations in 1922. Large-scale Jewish settlement and extensive Zionist agricultural and industrial enterprises in Palestine began during the British mandatory period, which lasted until 1948.
1929
Large-scale attacks on Jews by Arabs rocked Jerusalem. Palestinians killed 133 Jews and suffered 116 deaths. Sparked by a dispute over use of the Western Wall of Al-Aqsa Mosque ( this site is sacred to Muslims, but Jews believe that it is the remains of the Temple.)
Roots of the conflict lay in Arab fears of the movement which aimed to make at least part of British-administered Palestine a Jewish state.
1947
Great Britain decided to leave Palestine and called on the United Nations (UN) to make recommendations. In response, the UN convened its first special session and on November 29, 1947, it adopted a plan calling for partition of Palestine into Jewish and Arab states, with Jerusalem as an international zone under UN jurisdiction.
1947
Arab protests against partition erupted in violence, with attacks on Jewish settlements in retalation to the attacks of Jews to Arab Towns and villages and massacres against Palestinians.
15 May 1948
British decided to leave on this day, leaders of the Yishuv decided (as they claim) to implement that part of the partition plan calling for establishment of a Jewish state.
The same day, the armies of Egypt, Transjordan (now Jordan), Syria, Lebanon, and Iraq joined Palestinian and other Arabs in a full-scale war (first Arab-Israeli War).
The Arabs failed to prevent establishment of a Jewish state, and the war ended with four UN-arranged armistice agreements between Israel and Egypt, Lebanon, Jordan, and Syria.
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and miss ur point creation of isreal state is not acceptable for me in any any any condition ...whole land belongs too palestine and i just know tht and they have every right to destruct jews .....when u people r when muslims r killed in numbers in palestine last 8 days have been horrible hundreds killed u want them to say jews I LOVE U...nah..if same have been to my family i would have back hammas in every conditon and i m supporting hammas beac our muslims r being tonred into pieces ..i think u r christain right??miss u cannot feel as we feelll.....wht u say abt negeria where christians civilians yes civilians slaughtered muslims women babies male....y did u not shout for tht cuz christian r doing tht??? soory if i hurt uu....u cannot accept my point and i will not stop my fulll support to hammas and palestine people....again its all payback u hit i hit
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*Originally posted by usmanjunooni: *
and miss ur point creation of isreal state is not acceptable for me in any any any condition ...whole land belongs too palestine and i just know tht and they have every right to destruct jews .....when u people r when muslims r killed in numbers in palestine last 8 days have been horrible hundreds killed u want them to say jews I LOVE U...nah..if same have been to my family i would have back hammas in every conditon and i m supporting hammas beac our muslims r being tonred into pieces ..i think u r christain right??miss u cannot feel as we feelll.....wht u say abt negeria where christians civilians yes civilians slaughtered muslims women babies male....y did u not shout for tht cuz christian r doing tht??? soory if i hurt uu....u cannot accept my point and i will not stop my fulll support to hammas and palestine people....again its all payback u hit i hit
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In Nigeria there is a civil war.. christians and muslims are both dying but sadly u see only muslims casualities.. but there are many christians who are dying too.. u dont even count them!!! and what should we do.. from ur logic we should start killing Christians in pakistan as many are doing by slaughtering them in churches in past and would do that in future too.. according to ur theory we should kill all jews sincesome ogf them kill muslims so same should apply in Pakistan since there are christians in paksitan as well in revenge for christians of Nigeria..
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*Originally posted by usmanjunooni: *
and miss ur point creation of isreal state is not acceptable for me in any any any condition ...whole land belongs too palestine and i just know tht and they have every right to destruct jews .....when u people r when muslims r killed in numbers in palestine last 8 days have been horrible hundreds killed u want them to say jews I LOVE U...nah..if same have been to my family i would have back hammas in every conditon and i m supporting hammas beac our muslims r being tonred into pieces ..i think u r christain right??miss u cannot feel as we feelll.....wht u say abt negeria where christians civilians yes civilians slaughtered muslims women babies male....y did u not shout for tht cuz christian r doing tht??? soory if i hurt uu....u cannot accept my point and i will not stop my fulll support to hammas and palestine people....again its all payback u hit i hit
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I tried, but I know I will never be able to comprehend your ideal.
Sorry.
I fear I will never comprehend.
I just don't get it.
I don't get how anyone could support a group that considers civilian casualties as numbers rather than the people they are.
I don't understand how you can.
If it helps. Hate me. Blame me.
I am willing to accept that your ideals would be better served if I and my family didn't exist.
I accept that you wish death upon me and mine.
I hope God grants you all you wish for.
I have blessing to wish upon your family.
May your family always be happy.
May your family always be healthy.
May you and yours be sucessful.
May your prayres always be answerd.
Chota,
What does that mean - that you don't actually believe he stated all of that ?
Nadia,
chronic problem with osama-ites. osama has done everything, and done nothing, said everything, and theres no proof he said it, osama exists, but then where is he? he isnt here, but long live osama.
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*Originally posted by PurelyAvgGirl: *
I tried, but I know I will never be able to comprehend your ideal.
Sorry.
I fear I will never comprehend.
I just don't get it.
I don't get how anyone could support a group that considers civilian casualties as numbers rather than the people they are.
I don't understand how you can.
If it helps. Hate me. Blame me.
I am willing to accept that your ideals would be better served if I and my family didn't exist.
I accept that you wish death upon me and mine.
I hope God grants you all you wish for.
I have blessing to wish upon your family.
May your family always be happy.
May your family always be healthy.
May you and yours be sucessful.
May your prayres always be answerd.
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this is a sweet way to run away from facts..yes i support hammas attacks and ys i dont mind isreal civilians killings ..y u dont shout for palestine people killing???have any asnwer ur america killed 10000 iraqis since last year and how many jews killed from suicide just 500 and they killed for good purpose . palestine kashmir chacnia bosina r not human??? .....sorry come up with things which r present in contrast
HAMMAS RULZ
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*Originally posted by Nadia_H: *
Chota,
What does that mean - that you don't actually believe he stated all of that ?
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Osama is a great figure head and of great use, but not to Muslims.
Do I believe he stated? Do I care? Do you? Should we? More importantly does anyone?
Again he's a great figure head and of great use, but not to Muslims, you figure it out.
Giving a percieved fear a face or a voice or a statement and people lap it up irrespective of where they stand.