Who does Osama think he is?

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Offering gold for killing Kofi Annan? :rolleyes: Here’s a radical notion, bozo - how about offering gold for opening up orphanages, or schools, or mosques, or free hospitals for the poor? How about offering gold to someone who does philanthropic work like the Edhis?

What - he’s like the Muslim guru on whom we should kill ? He gives Muslims an order ‘go kill falaan falaan’ and we will do that ? :smack: Dubya i can understand, but instead of talking about assassinating individuals like Kofi Annan, why not just say - i’ll give the gold to a Muslim who carries out work that actually benefits poor people living in poverty. Where does he assume he has the religious authority to order Muslims to go kill falaan individual ? Apnay aap ko samajhta kia hai, seriously ? Where does he get that authority from ? How did he just place it on himself. What, does he expect Muslims are automatons - oh, the sage Osama said we should kill Kofi Annan, let’s go do that cuz we can’t think for ourselves anyways, whatever Osama says, we shall undertake.

Sorry, no offence to any Osama-lovers out there. My apologies. But honestly, where does he get that religious authority to authorize such an order towards all the Muslims of the world?

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nadz so true

but u know what were the hottest selling wall posters and stickers in pakistan after 9/11

yup u got it..OBL

yaar…i was in pak at that time and even i dint know what to think, whether to support him or not, wallahi i still have mixed thoughts abt this whole thing :eek: i know the politically correct ppl r gona kill me for this but i just dont know WHAT to think :confused:

ppl were naming their newborns osama…even my own cousin names her son osama :eek:

and yaar bus drivers had his pictures in their buses..and truck drivers…yaar…it was crazy…but for many he’s a hero :eek:

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Osama is a name of a Sahabi also. Don’t be Shocked if someone has that name.

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*Originally posted by pagaal: *
Osama is a name of a Sahabi also. Don't be Shocked if someone has that name.
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yeah true but at that time ppl were naming their kids osama just coz of OBL

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*Originally posted by irem: *

yeah true but at that time ppl were naming their kids osama just coz of OBL
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Here comes the intention/judging others issue :-D

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i'm willing to support any muslim organsiation whether they be hezbullah, hamas, al-qaeda et cetera that shows hatred and disgust towards the likes of u.s.a the most blatant human rights violater and it's close chamchaiz.

it's easy for the maghrabi mumalik to dismiss laden as a dehshatgard for any nation, any individual, any party who is willing to speak against the likes of amreeka will be labelled a terrorist by bush and his puppies......

osama bin laden has my full support, sad part of all this conflict is innocent civilians have perished in the past or r dying @ present on both sides' but islam has to conquer the world again and whether we love it or leave it, osama bin laden has the capability to bring about the much needed decent and not extreme changes.

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Originally posted by #let uz chat#: *
osama bin laden has the capability to bring about the much needed **decent and not extreme changes*.

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so you consider ramming two passenger planes into two civilian buildings a civilised and gentle change?

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*Originally posted by ravage: *

so you consider ramming two passenger planes into two civilian buildings a civilised and gentle change?
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USA says it and you beleived osama did it:)

What if I say it was done when there was a resolution about to be passed in Geneva against Israel declaring it to be a Terrorist State and thus was planned by Isreal :-|

Quite possible links there eh?

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*Originally posted by ravage: *

so you consider ramming two passenger planes into two civilian buildings a civilised and gentle change?
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9/11 was a big pre-planned conspiracy against islam and muslims of this world. no clear cut fool proof solid evidence till date has been brought up but everything has been doctored in such a way that anti - amreekans {osama & co') r made scapegoats. even if
a billion Kuffaar say the opposite, the word of a single Muslim
is more acceptable to me so save ur cnn like bhasha

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question is, if he didnt do it why is the arse so popular?

why did joe LUC go out and buy an osama sticker on september 12, while consistently denying that he did it?

have some spine and stick up for what you revere him for. or treat him like what he is. just another crackpot calling for america's overthrow while sitting on a donkey in afghanistan.

edit: apologies for making this another did-beloved-osama-do-it-discussion.

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Osama bin laden is a jackass who could have used his intelligence, ability to organize and finances to do something that would help people, make grass root level positive change rather than this ghunda gardee.

ass clowns liek OBL dont measure up to the bug **** stuck on shoes of ppl like Abdul Sattar Edhi who has devoted his life to do good for people. ambulances, orphanages, shelters..all kinds of things to help the common person.

and then u have these banner waving, book banging, frothing at the mouth, looney bin escapees like OBL who have done zilch for teh good of the common person.

he can take his calls for whatever, and shove it where only zawahiri goes..

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*Originally posted by Fraudz: *
Osama bin laden is a jackass who could have used his intelligence, ability to organize and finances to do something that would help people, make grass root level positive change rather than this ghunda gardee.

ass clowns liek OBL dont measure up to the bug **** stuck on shoes of ppl like Abdul Sattar Edhi who has devoted his life to do good for people. ambulances, orphanages, shelters..all kinds of things to help the common person.

and then u have these banner waving, book banging, frothing at the mouth, looney bin escapees like OBL who have done zilch for teh good of the common person.

he can take his calls for whatever, and shove it where only zawahiri goes..
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That's all from the CNN news room until next headlines :p

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He has no religious authority, hes no scholar, neither is he a real leader. If someone wants to listen to him than thats their problem. And I dont get why hed want to kill Kofi Anann, wasnt he againt the war in Iraq.

People have two extreme views about him, either hes a saviour or the devil. I think hes probably inbetween.

I mean he gave up his rich arab lifestyle to go defend a poor muslim country like Afghanistan. He fought for the cause of his muslim brothers, he was a mujahid and for that he has to be admired.

After that though I think hes gone a bit crazy. And if he is guilty of everything that he has been accused of (debateable) then hell get what he deserves.

I think we should just leave it Allah to decide.

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*Originally posted by #let uz chat#: *

9/11 was a big pre-planned conspiracy against islam and muslims of this world. no clear cut fool proof solid evidence till date has been brought up but everything has been doctored in such a way that anti - amreekans {osama & co') r made scapegoats. even if
a billion Kuffaar say the opposite, the word of a single Muslim
is more acceptable to me so save ur cnn like bhasha

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Q.

Wasn't there an O.B.L. tape sent/played by Al Jazerra network that had O.B.L. praising 9/11?

I don't understand the kill-Americans ideal really.

I can understand the anger to a point over U.S. support of Israeli's over Palestinians.

I think there are two sides to that story...

The fear of the Israelis that if they recede from Gaza that it will become nest for Hamas, Answar-al-Islam and like to continue raising kids to suicide bomb and battle Israelis rather than creating an economically healthy state that educates & employs and works to better the lives of the people.

The (I imagine) feeling of hopelessness of Palestinians living under duress in refugee camps thus following leadership that promotes anger and revenge rather than promoting ways to make life better. Jealousy over the improved and better land the Israeli's live on in Gaza and the funds available to Jewish Immigrants that make their lives easier.

I understand the muslim anger over Iraq sanctions.

Apalled by some Unicef reports that have equated the sanctions to genocide. Shameful. Equally apalled by the way Saddam controlled the Iraqi people and its resources.

And FYI was against the war on Iraq. Believe war was instigated and marketed to U.S. citizens with false pretenses.

Do think we owe it to the Iraqi people to rebuild their country and government in the way the Iraqi people chose and that U.S. exiting Iraq immediately would ultimately hurt the Iraqi people more that it would help.

I can also to a point understand the muslim idea of the U.S. having double standards when it comes to U.S. friendliness toward Saudi Arabia.

Many say that the Sauds bow to the U.S. ... perhaps true to a point.
But U.S. bow equally to the Sauds... we need them for our economic stability.

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*Originally posted by pagaal: *
That's all from the CNN news room until next headlines :p
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and what are you, editor for "suicide bombers daily news"? ;)

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Re: Who does Osama think he is?

Nadia, you are very innocent and kind-hearted, but you gotta realize, not everyone is like that! Some people get a thrill out of murder, there are people like that too, but then again there are people like Eidhi, Mother Teresa too, so there is still hope.

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:mad: i know it for a fact that that WAS their intention :mad:

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*Originally posted by #let uz chat#: *
i'm willing to support any muslim organsiation whether they be hezbullah, hamas, al-qaeda et cetera that shows hatred and disgust towards the likes of u.s.a the most blatant human rights violater and it's close chamchaiz.

it's easy for the maghrabi mumalik to dismiss laden as a dehshatgard for any nation, any individual, any party who is willing to speak against the likes of amreeka will be labelled a terrorist by bush and his puppies......

osama bin laden has my full support, sad part of all this conflict is innocent civilians have perished in the past or r dying @ present on both sides' but islam has to conquer the world again and whether we love it or leave it, osama bin laden has the capability to bring about the much needed decent and not extreme changes.

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And Q.

Why does Islam have to conquer the world again?

Please illustrate.

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Whatever happened to “Only Allah is the judge of intentions” :smiley:

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*Originally posted by pagaal: *
Whatever happened to "Only Allah is the judge of intentions" :D
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ye bhee AQl o fehm wali baat hae waise ;)

p.s. welcome back :)