Who are really Racist in Pakistan?

Please read carefully and think It is important that Pakistanis should know who are ethnic and racist in Pakistan and who are really playing with the future of Pakistan as one country. One can even find them out on this forum as post of these people tells everything.

As for Parties in Pakistan, one should look at the parties and see if they allow representation of all ethnicity in their party or not. For instance, we should check how many representatives in ANP are non-Pakhtuns, how many representatives in PPI are not Punjabi and Pukhtuns, etc. We have to also see if ANP is run by Punjabis in Punjab, Sindhi or Muhajir in Sindh or not. If party have members in provincial and national assemblies, we have to see if they have member on basis of non-ethnicity in assemblies or not.

Since Pakistan is country where there are religious and non-religious Muslims, Muslims from all school of thoughts (different Islamic sects), as well as non-Muslims, we also have to see parties are communal or not, by seeing if they have members representation of all communities or not, and that if they have members in assemblies, we have to see if all communities represent them in assemblies or not. [If any party we find are communal or racist, we should ask question from them].

As for judging people who are racist and ethnic, we can easily find them out, even on this forum as some of these people would:

1: Regularly talk about ethnicity and would make fun of others and show hate for others on ethnic basis.

2: Would only talk about rights on basis of ethnicity and not on merit.

3: Would talk about provincial autonomy and right of province on provincial resources and consider that Punjab is robbing them, but would never talk about right of Sindh on federal revenues collections in Sindh

4: Would never like complete merit in Pakistan on basis that Pakistan is confederation and all positions should be divided on provincial basis.

5: Many of their posts write that Pakistan is confederation and oppose the idea of dividing Pakistan into smaller administrative units.

6: Claim to have their distinct ethnicity and show how proud they are because of their ethnicity.

7: Would like the name of NWFP changed on the basis of ethnicity to Pakhtunistan or Pakhtunkhowa.

8: Supported Bugti because they believe that Bugti was hero because Bugti was fighting for Baloch (ethnic) cause.

9: When discussing Balochistan would show from their post that development of Gowader means huge influx of people from outside Balochistan and that to them is wrong as Gawadar belongs to Baloch, not Pakistanis.

10: Would be happy moving to Karachi (Sindh) as right and would like freedom to move to other provinces unhindered, but would hate people from Karachi and Punjab to move to their provinces. These people would never like domination in their area from anyone but would love to show dominance if they can in other part of Pakistan as their right.

11: Would like to move to other provinces and kill others on basis of ethnicity but would never tolerate others to move to their province and challenge them.

12: Would talk about differences of people in Pakistan on basis of language and culture, and would write how proud they are of their ethnicity and culture, and thus hate the idea of One Pakistan for all without distinction of ethnic background.

13: Would hate Urdu or even Punjabi as national language because it hurt their ethnic feelings.

14: Would always show their hate for others on basis of ethnicity and are proud of their ethnicity so much that they would be proud to call themselves Pakhtun and Afghans (as Afghanistan for them is Pakhtunistan) and whoever they won’t like they would call them Punjabis or Muhajirs.

15: If Muhajir get killed in Karachi it is fine but along with Muhajir if Pakhtun or others also get killed, that would be ethnic killing. For these people, killing of Muhajirs in Karachi by Naseer-ullah Baber was national heroism.

16: Would always talk about past personalities that they believe represent them but would never talk about personalities that do not represent them (in ethnic sense, religious sense or sectarian sense).

17: Would never accept anything bad coming from their own ethnicity, religious or sectarian affiliation however clearly proven to them, but would be first to blame other ethnicity, religious or sects they do not like for anything bad against all odds of proves and logic.

Well, there are many clear signs of these people and one can easily tell who in Pakistan are ethnic and racist. One should know them and know what they are, and be aware of them.

One should ask oneself, that when they support or dislike someone, then the cause of their support or dislike is because of ‘work by that person for the country’ or because of their own racist and communal feelings (based on ethnicity, religious, or sectarian affiliations)

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100% correct. Even their lawyers talk like mullahs, they did get their jihad in a suicide bmbing in peshawar it seems.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2007\05\15\story_15-5-2007_pg7_5

Launch jihad against MQM, PHCBA chief asks Pushtoons

PESHAWAR: The Peshawar High Court Bar Association (PHCBA) Monday warned MQM ministers not to visit NWFP and urged lawyers and Pushtoons to shoot the ministers if they crossed Attock bridge. “Burn down MQM offices and wage a jihad on its members on seeing them anywhere in the province,” PHCBA President Abdul Latif Afridi told a lawyers’ meeting before the joint opposition joined them at Qissa Khwani Bazaar. “Pushtoons will avenge the bloodshed of innocent Pushtoons in Karachi by the MQM, which is a group of terrorists,” Afridi said. He said President Pervez Musharraf, Sindh Chief Minister Arbab Ghulam Rahim and Governor Ishratul Ebad should be charged with “deliberate murders”. Barrister Masood Kausar, provincial organiser of the PPP lawyers’ forum, said the lawyers should take action against the MQM to avenge Pushtoons’ killing. “We have considered Karachi mohajirs our brothers since 1947 but the recent bloodshed proves they migrated from India to destabilise Pakistan,” he added. “Only the PPP acted against the MQM terrorists on May 12. Political parties are now united to wipe out this terrorist group from Karachi and help Sindhis get rid of them forever,” Kauser said. Sources told Daily Times that the MQM provincial president had closed the party office in Peshawar to avert possible attack. akhtar amin

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^ Only in Pakistan a lawyer can give life threat and walk away with it !

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everyones a racist :phati:

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Great post Sa1eem.

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Sa1eem,

Excellent post, but is unlikely to gain much prominence in small world of GS interactions simply because it challenges the stereotypical viewpoint prevalent in our society.

Having said that, balanced and thought provoking post.

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Saleem,
Remember your guttar level rant against the pukhtoons in the May 12 Rally thread that you pleaded with me to delete, because I quoted it...that was truly racist...so please stop this MQM style hypocritical ulta chor kotwaal ko daatna...

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Does it not show that you are ridiculous and your post silly? :) That is why I started this thread, to expose people who live in gutters … (u can guess who) :)

My post you mentioned was to show with examples how people on this forum use subtle ways to abuse and accuse people of other ethnicity, making fun of their victim's appearance, language, culture, dressing, walking and even way of talking, etc ... and then linking that with their ethnicity.

But later I realised that even though my purpose (and intention) was not to abuse or accuse any ethnicity, still due to my examples on how people are abusing and accusing other ethnicity, my post may hurt the feeling of some innocent people.

Thus, I deleted my post and replaced it with post without practical examples, but later I realised that you have quoted my post. Hence I asked you to delete it, telling you that I feel my post may hurt feelings of innocent others, but you don’t care, do you? You left that post, why? Because you do not care who gets hurt.

That is why I had to ask moderator to delete that quoted post, telling the moderator that my purpose of the post was never to hurt anyone’s feeling but it is possible that post might, hence delete my quoted post. If I was uncaring racist pighead and my purpose was to hurt feelings of other on basis of ethnicity, why I would ask anyone to delete my post that you quoted?

But would you understand that? I am sure you would not. People who themselves regularly make racist comments and do not care for the feelings of others do not care for such things, do they? People who live in gutter, they always smell gutter wherever they are and whatever they do. :)

Actually if you would have had any intelligence, instead of accusing me, you should have appreciated realising that if I went that far to ask moderator to delete my post you quoted just because I felt that it might hurt someone's feeling on ethnicity, how much I care that my post do not hurt anyone’s feeling unnecessary on basis of ethnicity.

[You could have also realised from my post and practical examples I made there, that if I or anyone really wants to hurt others feeling on basis of ethnicity, it can be done easily].

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Saa1eem

You are a sensible, decent, concientious individual who cares for others unlike the self-righteous bigots who have no respect or tolerance for divergence. Being fair minded sometimes will hurt while the authoritarian meglomaniac does not suffer from such pains simply because they have deprived themselves of that God gifted feeling of empathy.

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bhai jaan, looks like you got 1 excuse for every mess in or out of your life i.e. MQM

next time if your chicken curry tastes bad, blame it on MQM too ....

chaloo bhai get over it. we all know they are terrorist but koi hud hotee hai :)

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Pakhtoons sucks…chicken curry…:hoonh: …LOL

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I don't frequent Indian restaurants to be a conessieur of Chicken curry...At any rate, with the Beachball size head of Altaf and Ten-dog pack of Hot Dog of a guddi, he is probably devouring all the good chicken-curry, leaving the low-quality crap for the rest of you to rant on...

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basically you think that anyone who is disagreeing with you, is on other side. You are a classic example of Bush's "Either you are with us or against us" :)

btw: what the hell is "Rep Power" ? I seem to have lot of it :)

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Whatever led you to that inference???

As far as MQM is concerned, right now it is the poster child for lies, deceit, and murder, therefore, MQM metaphor was used...now get over it, otherwise Altaf bhai will have one more daygh of good chicken curry for lunch from now on...

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I think everyone in the world is racist to some extent
but when this racism reaches extreamism then it is dangerous
those who tell all stories like these people are racist and that are not and blah blah, are also racist in their mind and they also prefer their same ethnic to be strong and they are fond of that and but in outside they pretend as not and tell we should be like this and like and that
if everything goes fine then no racist and everyone are equal if something goes wrong then it comes this ethinic tribe is looting our ethinic tribe

when we are getting independence we fought each other and got seperate countires for each religion
when majority of our religion is same still we divide ourselfs inside our religion and later divide ourselves with ethinic tribe and later with some other thing
Human just search for and find out reasons to fight among themselves

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hot dog of a guddi lol :D

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Personally, I hate Altaf, and I would love an MQM without him. He is like a dictator. And he caused more harm to Karachi than NS or BB.
However, I also dislike people who use Altaf as an excuse to abuse muhajirs and call them names.

MQM is here to stay. Karachiites will either give their votes to MQM or they will simply won't go to polls. There is no other choice. No other party gives a sh** about muhajirs. Karachiites have to take care of themselves, and Altaf is not the right person for leading such a great city.
Long live Karachi. Long live Karachiites.

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I know this person from another forum. His posts are usually very racists especially when he mentions Pashtuns. Come on man, I have as much regard for Muhajirs or Urdu-Hindi speakers as for Pashtuns.

As for my identity, that is what I am.

And all these troubles in Pakistan point to some fundamental and inherent flaw in Pakistan itself.

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Karachi is not just mohajirs, there are other people living there, think outside of your shell my friend.

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who is racist..

These people…

Launch jihad against MQM, PHCBA chief asks Pushtoons

The Peshawar High Court Bar Association (PHCBA) Monday warned MQM ministers not to visit NWFP and urged lawyers and Pushtoons to shoot the ministers if they crossed Attock bridge. “Burn down MQM offices and wage a jihad on its members on seeing them anywhere in the province,” PHCBA President Abdul Latif Afridi told a lawyers’ meeting before the joint opposition joined them at Qissa Khwani Bazaar. “Pushtoons will avenge the bloodshed of innocent Pushtoons in Karachi by the MQM, which is a group of terrorists,” Afridi said. He said President Pervez Musharraf, Sindh Chief Minister Arbab Ghulam Rahim and Governor Ishratul Ebad should be charged with “deliberate murders”. Barrister Masood Kausar, provincial organiser of the PPP lawyers’ forum, said the lawyers should take action against the MQM to avenge Pushtoons’ killing. “We have considered Karachi mohajirs our brothers since 1947 but the recent bloodshed proves they migrated from India to destabilise Pakistan,” he added. “Only the PPP acted against the MQM terrorists on May 12. Political parties are now united to wipe out this terrorist group from Karachi and help Sindhis get rid of them forever,” Kauser said. Sources told Daily Times that the MQM provincial president had closed the party office in Peshawar to avert possible attack

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2007\05\15\story_15-5-2007_pg7_5