I am curious to Know Who are real Muslims?
Out of them who are the original ones and who
are converted and under what circumstances they were converted?
1)Shia
2)Sunny
Ahmedies ( very good nature people}
Ismale
Ishnashree
Bhora
Khoja
8)Miscellonous
im gona say it once and im gona make it very clear!!!!
The real muslim IS who follows QURAN, HAdith, and the path of Prophet mohammad and his companions!
Jaawan
Till next time*K_I_S_S*©
Realpaki - I just got off praising you in the thread: Creation of Allah, where I say that to create justice & love in this world, nationalism & extremism must go poof & die. Please, read that thread.
Now, I realize that you are no different than Xtreme - follower of Lucifer/Satan; you seek pleasure in taunting & DIVIDING us.
Man is Man; whatever, you may chose to call him.
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realpaki...
I was thinking of responding to this thread, than I noticed in your personal information that you are from "Fakistan". Sorry I can't take anyone from "Fakistan" seriously.
Achtung
why is xtreme a follower of satan?
Non of the paki is responding to this posting
correctly. The reason when Ahmedis says ther are the real muslim then sunny object them
Shia says they are the real muslim and not Sunnies
Question comes who are real muslims?
Who really follows Islam?
Why there is so much trouble in islamic world?
Is it necessary to hijack airplane to save islam?
Real paki brother you look in serious trouble...you need to study ISLAM hard and find out what it is all about...dont expect us to answer all your question we might be wrong as it is we all have limited amounts of knowledge about islam...i suggest that you read islamic books and study quran and hadith in simple english or some plan laguage that you understand without the help of dictionary.
As i said earlier..real islam is QURAN and HADITH!!! When we leave allah and his book and ask non-muslims for help and whom allah has declared out enemies and we have our enemies in the holy places such as saudiaa.
We ask westerns for help rather than allah....we have diclined out doctrine which is QURAN..and have UN make out rules...when you disobey Quran and its giver and your GOd you face some tough problems which muslims communities all over the world are facing.
MOST people do not follow islam(in a way they do but NOT the way it should be...and JUST SOME OF us follow it..and when we follow it we dont spread the knowledge that we have...we tend to leave religious/religion out of our daily life as if it only exists in MOsques and it is only for mulviess...that ignorent part of our thinking lead to more and more disobeyness of islam in our hearts...until we embrace islam as it is in quran and hadith we wont be able to face such problems such as humiliation of islam and muslims all over the world...
Jaawan
Till next time*K_I_S_S*©
The Prophet(pbuh) said there will be 72 different sect of muslims on the day of judgment. The one who will follow Quran and sunnah(hadith) will be on the right path.
1) Question comes who are real muslims?
There is no such thing as Islam any more but Islam(s). There are many different sects. There are differing opinions amongst these sects. Allah knows who the "authentic" Muslims are and He will judge all according to His Mercy and Will.
2) Who really follows Islam?
Allah can only answer this question. Personally I believe that those who sincerely believe in Allah, the Prophets He sent (culminating in Prophet Muhammad), the Angels , the Jins, and the last day of judgment are Muslims. They are followers of the message as revealed to Muhammad in the form of the Quran.
3) Why there is so much trouble in islamic world?
This is like asking why is there so much trouble in the "world" period. It isn't just the Muslim world. You have a very narrow perception of the world if you are looking at these issues in this light. Look at non-Muslim countries in Africa and Latin America, and Asia, which have equally disturbing political regimes in power, abuses of human rights, and reactionary groups in the form of militants and supporters of terrorism.
4) Is it necessary to hijack airplane to save islam?
Save Islam? This is a ridiculous and insulting position. Islam doesn't need to be "saved", it is safe from all harm - Allah has protected His message and this is evident in the fact that the Qur'an remains unaltered in its pristine state, since it was revealed by Angel Gabriel to Muhammad. The plane hijacking was a political decision, not religious. Don't demonize Islam, especially with the limited knowledge you possess.
5) How islamic faith established? 6) Is the purpose accomplished? If yes then How? if no,then why not?
This question begs for a 1000 volume book. You can read about how Islam was established. It has existed since the creation of Man and Woman. Its purpose is to supplant love in the hearts of humanity for both one supreme and indvisible God and other human beings. This goal is challenged daily by the followers of Satan - who wish to spread hate, oppression and division. In the pages of the Qur'an we have the key to success, its a matter of tapping into that power and implementing Allah's messege in our daily lives. If we can do that, we on an individual and community level, can come closer to achieving success in our lives both now and in the hereafter.
Che
Che-rub
Practice what you preach. What you say looks good on paper only.
Face-up is that a comment about me personally or about Muslims in general?
I'll take it, its about the latter. And I'll agree with you that there is a set of rules of conduct and laws, set out in Islam, that are violated daily by Muslims. What is practiced is far from being what is preached. But the majority of Muslims are peace loving people, who do not engage in terrorism and do not ostracize others because they belong to another sect of Islam.
If you wish to question a religion - you have to separate your arguments between a) what is preached and b) what is practiced. You can't confuse the two. And this is what people who chastize Islam, often fail to do.
They for some reason, hold that one who identifies themselves with the label Muslim, automatically lives their life in accordance with the rules of Islam (a ONE Islam agreed upon by all Muslims, which does not exist). If any group of Muslims are involved in questionable behavior, that behavior is not a product of their deviating from what is preached, but rather a manifestation of what is preached. So Islam is blamed for their ill-chosen actions, not their own individual decision to deviate from the path. Only Muslims face this type of scrutiny. It is easy to generalize about us, on the basis of the actions of a few. Their ill-informed and unwise actions are made synonymous with the label Islam and all Muslims are chastized for their behavior. They don't practice what Islam preaches, so it is assumed (as faceup assumes here) that all Muslims do not practice what they preach.
Anyways, you should elaborate on what you are trying to say...I can't really comment on any further until you do...
Che
My question really is
Are you muslim just because you were born in muslim family?
or
muslim because you are practicising islamic faith?
Realpaki you'll find out the answer to this question on the day of judgement!. :)
Explain to me this judgement business.
realPaki and others
Assalamoalaikum!!
The real thing is that Islam is the best religion and Mohammad PBUH was and is the best prophit, some of people here are saying that u will get the real answer on the day of judgement,well then why did Allah gave us the brain and eyes and other parts of the body??
I mean that with brain we can think and understan different aspects,with eyes we can see things and when we now in this world can know the right way why should we wait for the day of judgement???????
for example If we beleive this and we wait until the day of judgement, than we can not say that Christianity is wrong or Hinduism is wrong or any other relegion is wrong and we will not be able to prove the truth of Islam ,because we would say that the real answer would be only given at the end.
This is right that the real answer will be given at the end,but not only at the end!! They already have been given...Truth of Islam is proved by Qur'an and Mohammad PBUH, we don't have to wait until the day of judgement
Because Mohammad PBUH was the right true prophit,so he already prophisized that Islam will break up in 72 sects and there will be a 73rd JMA'AT and that 73rd JAMA'AT will the on the right path, when s'haaba(the comapinians of Mommad PBUH)asked that how we will be able to differenciat that Jama'at from the other sects,than Mohammad PBUH said that Jamat will be just like us(sorry i'm not giving the exactly right wording of the hadith, I put it in my words)
I will give more difenation of the hadith and continue the conversation later
I want to read ur comments also,
thanx
Allah Hafiz
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Good explanation, please continue
To experience and enjoy muslim faith you must
try to experience anotjer faith. Blind followers of any faith are no more worth than bhakad (goat)
Any religion or religious leader preaching anybody to follow them without questioning are nothing but fraud. God gave brain to think,eyes to watch and mouth to speak, make proper use of it.
Love,hate,anger are part of life no matter who says what, is going to stay here
REALPAKI, WE MUSLIM BELIVE ON OUR LORD WITHOUT SEEING HIM.
U DONT NEED TO SEE THE LORD TO BELIVE ON HIM BUT U HAVE TO FEEL HIM IN UR HEART.
OUR RELIGONS LEADER WILL NOT TELL U TO FOLOW ISLAM WITHOU QUESTIONING, BECAUSE OUR RELIGON HAS ANSWERS TO EVERY THING HUMAN, EARTH,HEAVEN,HELL,etc.
U ASK QUESTION WE WILL GIVE U SATISFIED ANSWERS,WITH HELP OF ALL MIGHTY.
YES LOVE, HAT, ANGER IS PART OF LIFE BUT I BELIVE....
LOVE....ALLAH
HATE.....WHAT ALLAH DISLIKE.
ANGER.....SHOW WHEN ANY ONE SAYS ANY THING BAD TOWARDS ISLAM.
Dear realpaki
Khojas and Ismailis are the same people, not that I am on of them. And what do u mean by Misc.