Who are real Muslims?

I am a muslim because i was born in a muslim family. I did question a lot about my religion, and I questioned a lot about other religions too.

I am not at a level to declare any sect as non muslim or whatever. I try to practice although I can improve upon that.

I dont even question other faiths. You do what you have to do and I will do what I have to do.

bismihi Ta'la
assalam o alaikum ....

what it boils down to is simple: our adherence to the Quran and how it manifests in ourselves, in words and deeds.

you can live a life time perfecting and implementing your sala, zakah, hajj etc. of-course other aspects apply to it as well.

regards

abu Kumayl

In one of the past massege I red that there are/will be 72 sect in Islam, which these sect are?

Is there any need of these sects?

If Islam has so many sect then why blame hindus for their cast system?

In hindusm cast of a person is depends upon the type of work he does. Why in islam when you believe in one god,so many sect called themself Shias /sunnies etc,

Why they fight with each other ( ref read peshwari night thread )

In hindusm even there is a cast system , no one fights on Ram/Krishna.

In hindu literature Raja (ruler of the nation) is consider as a father/god of the nation ( ref Ramayana ) His main duties are to treat every one equally and fairly.

Why Pakistani rulers are not treating minorities in Pakistan equally. Furget about hindus or christans, but why they don't treat AHEMEDIES equally? Why these people are prosecuted?

Mullas job is to teach religion, Quran etc? why these mullas are involved in politics? plane higcking etc. Why these people are spreading hate?

Most of the participent in this forum argues that this is a pakistani forum then why do you discuss India's problems and about hindusm.?

When you insult hindus, don't you think that you insult some of your own countrymen? There are hindus in Pakistan.


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It seems to me that you are interested in learning Sanatana Dharma.

Space on this BB is to small to explain

If really you want to learn Cast System, then you have to go back 7000 years when Aryans started migrating to India from north.

Detailed explanation is given in a Book written by renowned scholar "BABA MAHARAJ SATARKAR" in his book called Cast system in Sanatan Dharma. This book available in several languages. Check your library

"Sati" you want to know about this then you got to learn 1) marriges are made in heaven and re incarnation theory in sanatan dharma.

If you are geneious to know , then I will give you all the information where you can find this information.

Hindu or Sanatan Dharma, You cannot become hindu by converting or there is no founder of this faith. If you think you are hindu then you are hindu it is up to you.

I think this much is enough for now. I don't know your capacity

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this has got to be the funniest thing i have heard in a long long time!

realhindu writes "Hindu or Sanatan Dharma, You cannot become hindu by converting or there is no founder of this faith. If you think you are hindu then you are hindu it is up to you."

so if i think i am a superman. am i a superman? if i think i am isaac newton do i become a genius all of a sudden?

You dont become anything by just thinking about it. u have to practically follow some rules, laws etc. to claim urself to be somebody. what kinda horse dodo is this that if u think u r a hindu u r a hindu. u have to come up with something more serious... :)

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:) :) :) :) :)well said mundyaa :) :) :) :)

You guyes want to know what is ment by ideal and why hindus worship it?

It is very simple to understand only if you really wants to understand.

Hindu belives in one god,who do not have any roop (shape) size, he is not visible, he is everywhare,there is no death or birth to him.
He is in you, he is in me, he is everywhare.

But for a commonman to understand his existance these idela are created. For example brahma means creator, vishnu for protection and mahesh for distruction,
Laxmi for welth,Saraswati for Knowledge etc, etc. It is very well explained in Gita,

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Unfortunitely visitors ( who do not participate in debate) un able to read what
a participant really want to say because either massages got edited,added or erased.

These things are only happened in a dictator ship atmosphare.

It seemes to me that management of this site forgot that this site is originated in U.S.A. and not In Pakistan, where freedom of speach is guranted. Where ordinary citizen can say what he feels right, where Clinton &
Monika affairs discussed publically

These adm. people think that everyone will listen to them, forget it. You guyes have no standard, worth piece of shit

realhindu writes:


Hindu belives in one god,who do not have any roop (shape) size, he is not visible, he is everywhare,there is no death or birth to him.
He is in you, he is in me, he is everywhare.

But for a commonman to understand his existance these idela are created. For example brahma means creator, vishnu for protection and mahesh for distruction,
Laxmi for welth,Saraswati for Knowledge etc, etc. It is very well explained in Gita,


According to you there is one god who does all these things. and little gods are created by hindus, by their own hands cos they are too dumb to beleive in one.

How come not all hindus claim that they preach to one God and have created idols for their own stupidity.

I think you are goofing again. hindu clan beleives in different idols for different reasons.

only a couple of years ago an idol, considered as a god who produces milk for hindus.... was said to be responsible for giving milk in a mandir in london. the word got out.... people got curios about how an idol can produce milk. some days later the brahman incharge of that mandar was caught with his pants down while he was trying to slip some milk under the idol.

the only messages or posts that been deleted are those in which you have used abusive or or vulgar words.

yes the site is in the US and as such we expect you to honor the policies you accepted when you became a member. As I have mentioned before please refrain from using vulgar or profane words.

No one is really answering the question
" who is real muslim" Every one is renning around bush.

I think Ahmadies are real muslims, because

1) They respect huminity first
2) They respect all other religions and faith
& invites them to come to their Mask and pray the way they want

3) Do not spread hate against any one
4) They keep distance between politics and religion

5) They do not involved higacking or drug trafficketing,smuggling,terrarist activities
etc.

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You are absolutely wrong

These people are well settled in their own business, owns big houses and most off all very well respected in the society

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mundyaa,
ur right this is the funniest thing and the most stupidest thing ever read. my personal favs were Creation of Allah and Creation of Pakistan posts by . those were really retarded.
Religion should be used for building your character. Whatever religion u are from, all religions say u should be righteous and just. It does not limit it self to only ahmadis or jews or christians etc. If you have a good character then you have practiced your faith well. I have met many good hindus and some hindus I've met were real . Ive met good and bad Shias, sunnis, christians, jews, ahmedis etc. It's the personality of an individual that counts not his/her religion.


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But I won't stop now...

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Mundaya Please refrain from using abusive language against others.
Thanks

I wonder how come I did n't read this post before and the one about the creation of Allah . I am waiting for simlilar sort of questions .
An other question for all of those who are abusing realpaki
have you guys read quran ? or did you studied it? the difference is when you read quran you just read it because the arbic letters are the same as urdu you can read whole book and not understand any thing and when you study this the you read it in your first language in your own language .
Those of you who have just read it not studied are basically brain washed while they were still kids and if your mother tells you that time that moon is actually the sun and the sun is actually the moon and the rest of the world is wrong, you will belive her through out your life . Just like that just think if there is something wrong in our system in Islam then what will happen to you if Ahmedis are right .