White Woman's Burden

Interesting article ..
by Dina
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Too many South Asian men come to America to work or study with misconceptions about “white women.” They seem to think that “white women” have no morals, are only interested in men with money, don’t want to be married, and have no religious or family values.

Some South Asian men seem to think that because they are not at home, they can abide by a different set of rules. “White women” do not have to be taken seriously. We can be used for sex, comfort and maybe even love. But when it is time to go home, or when the relationship becomes too emotionally charged, you brutally end the relationship or quickly marry someone of the same nationality and religion. The “white woman” is left devastated.

I know, because I was one of them.

I dated a Pakistani Muslim for four years while I was an undergrad at an Ivy League school and he was as well. We loved each other very much, but he told me that he couldn’t marry me. His mother was expecting him to marry a Pakistani Muslim and if he didn’t, he would break her heart.

As an American Christian woman of an interracial background, I did not understand why. We were compatible on every level, except for my ethnic and religious background. To me, his arguments and his family’s expectations seemed racist. My parents had taught me to look beyond race and to love someone for his or her character, spirit and integrity.

After going back and forth about the relationship, we broke up. Within two months, he went back to Pakistan for a summer field project and got engaged to a Muslim woman from Pakistan. He wrote to me from Pakistan about the engagement and added, “Perhaps you’ll say to yourself that I am more in love with — than I was with you. It’s not true. I can’t lie to myself.”

I was devastated. Four years with this person whom I loved so much and whom I knew loved me—only to have him offer up his lifetime commitment to someone else whom he hardly knew, in such a short time. But then I realized that he did not have the character, spirit and integrity that my parents had told me to look for. If he had, he would have realized that I am a woman before I am white, with feelings, dreams and hopes of my own. I’m “white” because I was born that way. I didn’t choose my race as much as he didn’t choose his birth land, family or religion. He did not enjoy being discriminated against because of who he was and what he believed in. He should not have done the same to me.

If you too are a South Asian man considering coming to my country—or are already here, you need to realize that us “white women” are to be treated with the same respect that you give your mothers, daughters, sisters or wives. The difference in values and upbringing between the women of your country and the women of mine does not make one better than the other.

And if you are afraid of falling in love with a “white woman,” your religion does allow the marriage. Your culture and your family, however, may react differently. But that is something that you need to resolve for yourself. Don’t drag the “white woman” through your emotional turmoil.

So when you get off the plane, and see me on the street, at a party, in class, at work, and think I am alluring, do not approach me unless you are willing to find out my values, my interests, my personality, regardless of my race or religion. Do not approach me unless you are willing to stand up for me and marry me if we fall in love. Do not date me for the “experience” of being with a “white woman.” I am not an exhibit, carnival ride or trip to the city.

If you can’t do any of these things, then leave me alone, and go back home and get married. Do not hurt me by loving me then not having the courage to deal with the consequences of that love. Kindness, respect and compassion are virtues also taught by Islam.

we blame goras for being racist.. but arent us southasian racist as well?.. i have seen and heard soo many desi guyz who date white women because they r apparently "easy". Sad how our men treat women like this.

You'll be surprised how many North American/Western born and raised Pakistani guys treat Pakistani girls the same way!! If their mothers don't give their thumbs up, it's out the door for the girl. It's a shame really. It's not just white women who are being used and discarded.

not just that mehnaz .. i have actually seen guyz going out with goris just for "fun" and they themselves admit that they wud never marry them because they dont make a good wife.

sad really.. will this mentality ever vanish?

That was touchy!

Not all the Pakistani Guys can’t be like that as Dina described.

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Very typical scenario, esp. on college campuses across the US.. and not just with white women. Paki boys date indian girls, chinese girls, latino girls, sleep around with them and when graduation time comes around, dump 'em. Very nice.

Incidentally this article was written by a desan under a false pseudonym I believe. Doesn't alter the substance of it tho.

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Paki boys date indian girls, chinese girls, latino girls, sleep around with them and when graduation time comes around, dump 'em. Very nice.

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...and the Indian boys are in the Mandirs, at bible study or running the MSAs and the mosques...right?

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*Originally posted by Ana: *
Very typical scenario, esp. on college campuses across the US.. and not just with white women. Paki boys date indian girls, chinese girls, latino girls, sleep around with them and when graduation time comes around, dump 'em. Very nice.

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I know a few paki guys, who still have their islamic values and do not engage in promiscuous sexual acts. Their behavior is circumscribed by Quran...point being not all paki guys are the same. Aur waisay bhee, definitely white women are more alluring to desi guys because of the social perceptions they hold of them being, crudely put, "easy"...which of course is true on some levels...unless you run into a nun or some conservative christian girl....

There is one Pakistani man in my town who has a white wife here in USA and a Pakistani wife back home. The American wife was thrice divorced and she was desperately looking for a husband and this Paki man was looking for someone to sponsor his visa. American wife knows he already has a wife back home !

I don't like dating Paki boys either.

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I don't like dating Paki boys either.
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arent you a guy?

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arent you a guy?
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heh..u didnt get it ..

PT i am sure not all pakistani guyz r like that.. but most of them r and ppl tend to judge from those few experiences rather looking at it generally. :)

mufakar.. the point is shudn't they respect all women equally rather than treating em like garbage. just because they belong to a culture which allows such relationship doesnt mean that u shud exploit it like that :) what ever happened to morals n values?

if the same thing happens to our sisters n daughters, our men go ballistic. y dont they realize that those women r also someone;s daughter n sisters n deserve to be treated with respect as well.

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arent you a guy?
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Last I checked, yes. Are you?

During my single days, I had no problems with Paki girls. I don't know what the hubub is. Paki girls can be some of the sweetest most loving chicks on the planets. Much like the Indian, White, Jewish and the Italianas...wa..wa..wa..

I think Paki guys might have some issues with their confidence. PM, me..we can talk and I guide you guys through the process.

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mufakar.. the point is shudn't they respect all women equally rather than treating em like garbage. just because they belong to a culture which allows such relationship doesnt mean that u shud exploit it like that what ever happened to morals n values?

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I agree Suroor. But that was not my point. As you stated earlier on and correctly so that this is a South Asian problem. I take exception to the singling out of "Paki boys" and that too by a non-Pakistani...I mean what up with that? This sort of behaviour is not just limited to Pakistanis and I would like that fact acknowledged before we move on to the should nots.

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Last I checked, yes. Are you?
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oh yeh im a guy..and I dont need to check...

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I agree Suroor. But that was not my point. As you stated earlier on and correctly so that this is a South Asian problem. I take exception to the singling out of "Paki boys" and that too by a non-Pakistani...I mean what up with that? This sort of behaviour is not just limited to Pakistanis and I would like that fact acknowledged before we move on to the should nots.
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my bad then.. u r right.. we shudnt be singling out only paki guyz..

but this refers to pakistani guyz. n being pakistani myself i am only concerned about them.

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but this refers to pakistani guyz. n being pakistani myself i am only concerned about them.

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....here is another part of the problem that hasn't been discussed here so far. The sleaze balls that we are talking about are otherwise (for the most part) nice people that we the Paki boys associate with. Moreover a lot of us "shurufa" egg these people on and encourage thier behaviour after listening to stories of thier exploits. Why is that? I really don't know.

Has everybody who is generalising condoning ,condemning & acting judgemental have read Ana’s last two lines of he post above :confused: :hula: :sunny:

So Suroor you in your attempt o prove your point by hook or by crook have already caused spread of incorrect information & statements.:nono:

What i will never understand that WHY IS IT THAT FEMENAZI IS LIKE PATRIOTISM THE LAST BASTION OF WOMAN WHO HAVE NOTHING ELSE NO HUSBAND ,NO BOY FRIEND, NO CHILDREN NO NORMAL FAMILY LIFE ..everything UNTRADITIONAL from …i’ll leave the weird & dysfunctional life style of the unisex & rest upto u :Yukh:

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PT i am sure not all pakistani guyz r like that.. but most of them r and ppl tend to judge from those few experiences rather looking at it generally. :)
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Correct,

I think if Dina knew about his boyfriend culture, religion before goin' into a further relationship, she wouldn't have been so depressed, felt rejected as she does now.

Relationship is all about understandin', communication, Suroor. :)