White Woman's Burden

I tried to post this earlier, b4 the rest of the comments (which I have not read yet, will read l8r).... but the screen kept freezing. Anyways, here it is:

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*Originally posted by mufakkar: *
...and the Indian boys are in the Mandirs, at bible study or running the MSAs and the mosques...right?
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No, the indian boys are in bars hanging out with their equally diverse assortment of girfriends with fewer hang-ups about who they are, about religion, culture, blah, blah.
All they care about is getting a gf to sleep with for a few years, getting a degree and then a job after graduation.

They're not blatant hypocrites atleast, and they can hold their drink most of the time. Their girls usually know very well the relationships are physical-based and just time-pass, with perhaps a chance of long-term prospects, the "dekhengey" wala attitude.

Paki boys like to play let's see who scores with this chick tonite, and they go for the innocent gullible variety most of the time coz it ups their ego. While all the time they have that "pakeezah" cousin of theirs who is so oh-la-la pure just waiting for them back home, and nobody better mess with their homegirls coz they're soooo doodh mei dhuli.

White girls and anyone else who is not-paki on the other hand, are easily available sluts, and bewakoof idiots to boot.

Don't talk to me about what goes on in college campuses, I know very well.

Anyways, I just realized. It's not just a paki thing. When any guy of any country leaves the confines of his home to venture out, esp. to any other country, the girls of that country automatically become second-class "chicks", readily available and **** compared to what's growing back home. Amricans on assignment abroad think the same way about foreign girls, be they german, french, indi, arab, blah blah.. everyone just puts their own country's women on a pedestal, and the rest of us are all trash. Cool. What a life. Huh.

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Originally posted by mufakkar: *
I agree Suroor. But that was not my point. As you stated earlier on and correctly so that this is a South Asian problem. **I take exception to the singling out of "Paki boys" and that too by a non-Pakistani...I mean what up with that?
* This sort of behaviour is not just limited to Pakistanis and I would like that fact acknowledged before we move on to the should nots.
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Excuse me? Did u just label be a non-paki? Who the eff r u? God?

I'm just as much a paki as u r, and I'm damn proud of it. So get with the program and quit harassing my humanity.

Yeah, all men r jerks and all women r bitches, me included. Happy now?

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*Originally posted by Ana: *
Yeah, all men r jerks and all women r bitches, me included. Happy now?
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Ana, simmer down naa....wow..you do have a lot of anger to vent out...

ana.. take deep breaths :slight_smile:

its just a discussion.. dont get so upset about it :flower1:

Sorry :(.

Well, after reading this thread, I tried to look for some practical examples of paki/ Muslim guys who will fit in this picture. This is fact that majority of them fitted in this bracket. This definitely doesn't mean that all are like that or only the Pakistani/ Muslim guys are acting like this. good and bad are part of every community, race, religion and culture.
I noticed that lots of Pakistani (immigrants/ students, etc) guys (especially bachelors) are looking for this type of "fun" and when you ask why? the simple answer would be exactly the true picture as described in this thread.
One more problem, I also noticed that most of Pakistani/Muslim guys even think same about Pakistani/Muslim girls. They think, that guys are allowed to do whatever they want as their right, but when they are looking to get married, they don't want girls from here at all. I know few real life examples.

Having said that, I know few Pakistani guys, who are really good examples of a good picture. One of them, with all his family support, supported and accepted a white girl with some issues and problems and she adopted the family really well.

I fully agree with suroor and pak.Tiger. People tend to judge from those few experiences rather looking at it generally.

It is sad. What you think is the solution? How can we improve and educate our society.

:yukh:

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*Originally posted by Ana: *
No, the indian boys are in bars hanging out with their equally diverse assortment of girfriends with fewer hang-ups about who they are, about religion, culture, blah, blah.
All they care about is getting a gf to sleep with for a few years, getting a degree and then a job after graduation.

They're not blatant hypocrites atleast, and they can hold their drink most of the time. Their girls usually know very well the relationships are physical-based and just time-pass, with perhaps a chance of long-term prospects, the "dekhengey" wala attitude.

Paki boys like to play let's see who scores with this chick tonite, and they go for the innocent gullible variety most of the time coz it ups their ego. While all the time they have that "pakeezah" cousin of theirs who is so oh-la-la pure just waiting for them back home, and nobody better mess with their homegirls coz they're soooo doodh mei dhuli.

Anyways, I just realized. It's not just a paki thing. When any guy of any country leaves the confines of his home to venture out, esp. to any other country, the girls of that country automatically become second-class "chicks", readily available and **** compared to what's growing back home. Amricans on assignment abroad think the same way about foreign girls, be they german, french, indi, arab, blah blah.. everyone just puts their own country's women on a pedestal, and the rest of us are all trash. Cool. What a life. Huh.
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Very true!! I've also seen this behaviour on university and college campuses...and in the work environment! Sad but true.

we cannot generalize this on the basis of any race.

guys in general are jerks but then again, there are decent guys with dignity and self respect, out there! happy hunting!

though, girls are catching up!

Who the eff? whats eff? If you are going to be crass than go ahead and type the word what are you afraid off?

Really? Is that why you were talking about Pakistan’s “Ultimate downfall” in Pakistan affairs? Look at what you’ve said above. “Indians are not blatant hypocrites at least”…so all of us are?

Oh wow! your throwing a tantrum reallymade me see things your way. :rolleyes:

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*Originally posted by MehnazQ: *
You'll be surprised how many North American/Western born and raised Pakistani guys treat Pakistani girls the same way!! If their mothers don't give their thumbs up, it's out the door for the girl. It's a shame really. It's not just white women who are being used and discarded.
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Well then Mehnaz, dont just confine your argument to paki guyz as paki girls do as well succumb to domestic pressure. I've been through it, so i should know. I've seen it around me as well alot of times. Guyz and girls backing off after parents' opposition. Sometimes it is just plain usage, sometimes its the great love for the parents, and sometimes its just the society that might make life misreable for u.

Thats just the nature of our society. Most of the parents, either dont trust the choices of their children, or mayb its just an ego problem. They think they can make a better choice. At times, those have turned out to be absolute disasters.

Anywayz, in regards to dina, this really is sad. These guyz are plain gutless. If u had the heart to love, u should also have the heart to fight.

plz no fights here.. take it in pmz if u like :slight_smile:

ak power..very true..

amir… good question..how can we eliminate such type of mentality?

how about starting from home first.. teaching ur kids to respect ppl regardless of race, colour or religion. respect ur kid’s wishes and understand what they r saying.. stop stereotyping other cultures infront of kids.

I dont think its just the white women's burden rather... all women..

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*Originally posted by ~MuNiYa~: *
I dont think its just the white women's burden rather... all women..
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cud be but it doesnt happen in southasia as much as it happens in western countries.

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cud be but it doesnt happen in southasia as much as it happens in western countries.

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Oh but it does. South Asia has changed a lot, and "it" does happen quite a lot...its kept under wraps of course, with only the sucessful shaadi waali stories coming to the fore.

I am still curious though, how did women become the victims? What about the men/boys who have been stiffed? by desi gals at that?

Muniya

THIS IS NOT A TRUE WHITE WOMANS LETTER !! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

You are making it appear as if white woenns are dying to marry Pakistani or evensouth asians.Among the white b/c of 10 marriages on average there is no dearth of divorced men around for any girl willing to marry .There is also there no stigma of age of girl so a older woman can marry younger or older divorced if there is problem.:flower2: