White Phosphorous Used against Militants of Lal Mosque

[Ajju]

Re: White Phosphorous Used against Militants of Lal Mosque

Khekheshan: Your chacha is way off man. I was told that a mini-nuclear bomb was used, and Israeli and Indian commandos supervised the whole operation. The 'Taalibat' swore having seen 'farishtas' fighting people in Indian and Israeli uniforms.

Too late bro. Our man has already claimed that Mosad and Raw are responsible for the Islamabad suicide blast.

[Sa1eem]

Re: White Phosphorous Used against Militants of Lal Mosque

Brothers, you all should know that there are many retards in Pakistan and to discuss anything with them is useless. Retards do not have anything in their upper chamber. Their upper chamber is empty akhroot shell, therefore nothing can go in and there is nothing insider to come out ;).

Anyhow, this story of white phosphorous used by Pakistan army is BS concocted story by the writer. Only retards would accept such BS concocted story, but if any intelligent mind would read that story and ponder, they would know immediately that it is concocted story. Indisputable evidence of the story BS and concocted nature is in the story itself :).

When a person reads the story, one can see two things. One is that, writer ‘Teeth Maestro’ is probably a retarded Pakistani and other is that, he is so retard that he could not realise that he is putting a concocted story and giving evidence of his BS in the story itself.

Just read the story as it is given here and think.

http://proud-pakistani.com/2007/07/14/chemical-weapons-used-on-lal-masjid/

Read these two paragraphs in that story and ponder.

Paragraph one to ponder:

There continues to be a strong debate on how Musharraf should have handled this situation, but what surprises me is the inhumanity of this attack, dexterity of the assault should have meant targeted exchange of fire maybe an occasional rubber bullet to pacify the milder militants, but the indiscriminate use of chemical weapons, by the **National Army **against its own people. Is jaw dropping serious, its akin to the mass murder which happened in Karachi on May 12th when the Army headed off to the barracks leaving the city at the hands of ruthless killers for six hours..

From above it is evident that this person statement is politically motivated. Else, there are claims and counter claims about Karachi killings, and there could be no doubt that there was cross fire going on (that can be seen from any TV coverage). And no one calls killing between two parties firing on each other as mass murder. Anyhow, this paragraph shows that this person is one of Pakistan retarded idiot reporting politically motivated stories. Next paragraph plus the picture he put there, shows his mental level.

Paragraph two (along with picture given in the article) to ponder:

To understand the gravity of the situation one has only to look at these two images of burnt bodies the sight is excruciatingly painful, when the Americans used White Phosphorous on the victims in Fallujah back in April 2004.

He wants to claim that White phosphorous was used by Pakistan army. But the biggest mistake he did was to show the picture of a person completely burned head when white phosphorous was used. If he had not showed the picture, only those people would have realised his BS, who know what white phosphorous could do. In that situation, many who do not know the level of heat white phosphorous produces, would have accepted his BS propaganda. Now, anyone that thinks would know that he is a liar and idiot.

Why? Because government did took reporters to Madras and Lal building and let them make movie of it, that we all saw on TV. From those pictures on TV, we know that there were cloths and even books and papers present in the Madrassa. Obviously, if white phosphorous was used, there would have be no cloths and papers, as all would have burned and would have become ashes.

Second is that, we all have seen the face of Ghazi Rasheed and someone on this forum was claiming that he has smiling face. If white phosphorus was used, then face of Ghazi Rasheed head should have been of kala bhoot, as the picture of dead man shown in the article.

We have also seen few other pictures of people killed in the Madrassa (whom government claimed that they were terrorists). None had burned face. This shows that, since whatever picture we saw do not show burned face, white phosphorous could not have been used, as if that was used, the faces that we saw would have been completely burned.

We also know that all burial of those killed in madrassa are imaanat and government has agreed that they would hand over the killed to their relatives. Thus, if their dead body were burned, government would not have made such promise. I think one of Abdul Rasheed or Abdul Aziz son got killed too, and his body was handed over to their family for burial. If it was burned body, government would not have given that to their family.

But would any retards going to accept what I wrote? Obviously not neither I expect them to see any thing logically, nor I would like to write for them. I wrote for those Pakistanis who may have started thinking that Pakistani may army really have used white phosphorus.

[Mostar95]

Re: White Phosphorous Used against Students of Lal Mosque

@mercenary2k

Good. I am glad they used it.

These savages need to die a horrific death and they got exactly what they deserved.

Great Job by the Pakistan Army.

I wish they would saturate our entire FATA areas with this.

Yes I support this. I do not want to be led by the fanatic mullahs. They were trying to occupy the country and they got what they deserved.

[Mr_Fraudia]

Re: White Phosphorous Used against Students of Lal Mosque

Why are youy making a a fool of yourself. They dont have to see it with their eyes? Did you see everything inside the Masjid with our own eyes. According to your own logic you should zip it.

I simply trust teh govt sources this time around more. I mean compared to two bit thug fughazi brothers.

they dont have to see it with their own eyes? so please enlighten me, how did they know? I mean I need sources, muftu claimed that soldiers who did not want to go inside the masjid were shot (by whom btw, I suppose he is alleging that it was other soliders who shot them) so show me the proof.

did other soldiers tell him? name teh soldiers

I mean this misdirection by our 'ulema' is bordering on ridiculous now, they are whining about bay hurmati of masjid, whining about killing of the terrorists and terrorists supporters in the masjid, and going on all tangents while very skillfully dodging the real issue i.e. militancy..and its acceptence in our religious-political circles.

and no I did not see anything in the compound except what was shown on TV, but then i am no mufti being quoted in national papers stating his opinions as some fundamental truth. Hey if this is true, he should have no problem sharing how he came to know this. Mufti does not know jack, he is just yip yaping

[Mr_Fraudia]

Re: White Phosphorous Used against Militants of Lal Mosque

The 'Taalibat' swore having seen 'farishtas' fighting people in Indian and Israeli uniforms.

were the talibaat being quoted known as mary jane, aunt mary, maui wowie, bombita, miss emma etc?

[system]

Re: White Phosphorous Used against Students of Lal Mosque

Who else can these cowards use it against except their own people. 60 years and they lost half of the Pakistan.

Lost in Kargil

Still havent conquered Kashmir.

Only conquered Lal Masjid.

If you dont like it, leave... No one is forcing you to call yourself a Pakistani..

[mercenary2k]

Re: White Phosphorous Used against Militants of Lal Mosque

They were not terrorists nor did they do anyhing that falls under the catergory of terror.

What would you call burning down buildings, kidnapping people, promising terrorist attacks if attacked, running mock courts, undermining the sovereignty of Pakistan?

What Musharraf did and his supporters, killed 1000+ innocent people, they are biggest terrorists.

Really? How do you know that 1000+ innocent people were killed?

How? Are you there? Have you seen the dead bodies? And how do you know that they are all innocent? If they were then how did 11 SSG die and 33 got wounded? Did they shoot themselves?

MQM killed 50+ people on May 12th in Karachi and are still supported by Musharraf. They are terrorists.

And your Taliban/Al Qaeda/Lal Mosque terroists have killed over 100 of our soldiers...They are TERRORISTS.

Pople inside the Madrassah who were killed while reading the Quran and not terrorists.

They were terrorists because of all their past activities. And none of them were reading the Quran. They were too busy firing on our brave soldiers.

You people say the same exact stuff that I hear on Fox and CNN. Get your facts right.

And you are saying the exact stuff I hear Osama and Zawahiri say...

Get your facts right bubba

[Mr_Fraudia]

Re: White Phosphorous Used against Militants of Lal Mosque

pak patriot- well they did close 2 camps :)

[mercenary2k]

Re: White Phosphorous Used against Militants of Lal Mosque

Too late bro. Our man has already claimed that Mosad and Raw are responsible for the Islamabad suicide blast.

Then Mossad and RAW must be the greatest intelligence agencies in the world....

But I wonder how did Mossad fail so miserably in the 2006 War with Hezbollah or RAW fail in Kargil in 1999.....

The typical mindset of a jihadi.

Do a terrorist act and then blame the jews and hindus by concocting stupid conspiracy theories which even Hamid Gul will find stupid

[mercenary2k]

Re: White Phosphorous Used against Militants of Lal Mosque

@Sa1eem

Brothers, you all should know that there are many retards in Pakistan and to discuss anything with them is useless. Retards do not have anything in their upper chamber. Their upper chamber is empty akhroot shell, therefore nothing can go in and there is nothing insider to come out ;).

Yes some of these people are even defending the Lal Mosque terrorists…

@Sa1eem

Anyhow, this story of white phosphorous used by Pakistan army is BS concocted story by the writer. Only retards would accept such BS concocted story, but if any intelligent mind would read that story and ponder, they would know immediately that it is concocted story. Indisputable evidence of the story BS and concocted nature is in the story itself :).

First of all. There are two kinds of White Phosphorous. One that is fitted into Artillery to fire rounds or the others that are launched by mortars to illuminate the night sky for night time operations.

Now, the weaponized White Phosphorous, if fired is lethal for some time and that area has to be sanitized. So the Army cannot fire Weaponized WP while they are raiding the Compound. So the WP used was used to illuminate the night sky as the operation was launched at 4:00 am…

@Sa1eem

When a person reads the story, one can see two things. One is that, writer ‘Teeth Maestro’ is probably a retarded Pakistani and other is that, he is so retard that he could not realise that he is putting a concocted story and giving evidence of his BS in the story itself.

Exactly. People like Khanbabax and bitter_reality are just desperately scouring the internet to find anything remotely against the Pak Operation against the Lal Masjid goons and in the end they post an entry from a blog with pictures showing dead Iraqis…

I mean how desperate can these two get…

@Sa1eem

Just read the story as it is given here and think.

http://proud-pakistani.com/2007/07/14/chemical-weapons-used-on-lal-masjid/

Read these two paragraphs in that story and ponder.

From above it is evident that this person statement is politically motivated. Else, there are claims and counter claims about Karachi killings, and there could be no doubt that there was cross fire going on (that can be seen from any TV coverage). And no one calls killing between two parties firing on each other as mass murder. Anyhow, this paragraph shows that this person is one of Pakistan retarded idiot reporting politically motivated stories. Next paragraph plus the picture he put there, shows his mental level.

Exactly. People who hate Musharraf are going to find everything which is wrong with Pakistan and blame it on Musharraf.

@Sa1eem

He wants to claim that White phosphorous was used by Pakistan army. But the biggest mistake he did was to show the picture of a person completely burned head when white phosphorous was used. If he had not showed the picture, only those people would have realised his BS, who know what white phosphorous could do. In that situation, many who do not know the level of heat white phosphorous produces, would have accepted his BS propaganda. Now, anyone that thinks would know that he is a liar and idiot.

But it convined people like Khanbabax and bitter_reality to believe such garbage.

It is exactly due to this reason, that their credibility rating is at all time high of ZERO percent.

@Sa1eem

Why? Because government did took reporters to Madras and Lal building and let them make movie of it, that we all saw on TV. From those pictures on TV, we know that there were cloths and even books and papers present in the Madrassa. Obviously, if white phosphorous was used, there would have be no cloths and papers, as all would have burned and would have become ashes.

Exactly, WP is very hot, and using it in such a confined area is very stupid. And besides the white sandy residue of WP can be lethal to the skin. As it will burn through the flesh.

But if some mullah on a loud speaker told Khanbabax and bitter_reality that the world was round but the Jews made it flat, they would believe that too…

@Sa1eem

Second is that, we all have seen the face of Ghazi Rasheed and someone on this forum was claiming that he has smiling face. If white phosphorus was used, then face of Ghazi Rasheed head should have been of kala bhoot, as the picture of dead man shown in the article.

Exactly. WP if it was used was only used as night flares to illuminate the sky so that our soldiers can see and besides WP has been used countless times in battle to illuminate the night sky. Before they used flares and now they use WP.

@Sa1eem

We have also seen few other pictures of people killed in the Madrassa (whom government claimed that they were terrorists). None had burned face. This shows that, since whatever picture we saw do not show burned face, white phosphorous could not have been used, as if that was used, the faces that we saw would have been completely burned.

All this proves that Weaponized WP was not used no matter how much khanbabax and bitter_reality would like us to believe.

@Sa1eem

We also know that all burial of those killed in madrassa are imaanat and government has agreed that they would hand over the killed to their relatives. Thus, if their dead body were burned, government would not have made such promise. I think one of Abdul Rasheed or Abdul Aziz son got killed too, and his body was handed over to their family for burial. If it was burned body, government would not have given that to their family.

And this also completely discredits the assertion that over 1,000 people got killed.

@Sa1eem

But would any retards going to accept what I wrote? Obviously not neither I expect them to see any thing logically, nor I would like to write for them. I wrote for those Pakistanis who may have started thinking that Pakistani may army really have used white phosphorus.

They didnt. They might have used WP which was used to illuminate the night sky but that was is it.

Thanks Saleem.

Khanbabax and bitter_reality’s arguments have been torn apart and shredded and pooped on…

[risc]

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dude we type less and provide more documented evidences in form of news audios and news links.....you my friend on the other ....start telling us long fairy tales.. The people will decide for themselves....the choice is theirs. Fiction is always long and boring.... facts are crisp and brief Thanks

LMAO @ facts. Do you have any facts? did you see WP burning with your own eyes?

[system]

Re: White Phosphorous Used against Militants of Lal Mosque

They should have done a lot worse then this so called phosphorous attack... Such terrorists deserve to be attacked with the worst weapons imaginable.. The more suffering the better so as to deter any future terrorists.

[USResident]

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... arguments have been torn apart and shredded and pooped on....:D

Oye besharam Haya kar Haya .... public pooping is not allowed. Yeh DJ College ki muttu gali nahin hai ...

[mAd_ScIeNtIsT]

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Well if you didn’t want the government to use white phosphorous to make smoke inside, what did you want them to use as a smoke screen instead?

Weight-for-weight, phosphorus is the most effective smoke-screening agent known, for two reasons: first, it absorbs most of the screening mass from the surrounding atmosphere and secondly, the smoke particles are actually an aerosol, a mist of liquid droplets which are close to the ideal range of sizes for Mie scattering of visible light.

Because of the great weight efficiency of WP smoke, it is particularly suited for applications where weight is highly restricted, such as hand grenades and mortar bombs. An additional advantage for hand smoke grenades—which are more likely to be used in an emergency—is that the WP smoke clouds form in a fraction of a second.

White phosphorus

[fghd]

Re: White Phosphorous Used against Students of Lal Mosque

@mercenary2k

Good. I am glad they used it.

These savages need to die a horrific death and they got exactly what they deserved.

Great Job by the Pakistan Army.

I wish they would saturate our entire FATA areas with this.

but what about the innocent ones in there:confused:

[Decent_6Chora]

Re: White Phosphorous Used against Students of Lal Mosque

I am a Muslim than a Pakistani.

and i am sure as a Muslim and a Pakistani, your heart also goes for the families of 3-7 ranges and innocent person who was just passing by and got killed by these LAL MSAJID fanatics before this all started....

[Mr_Fraudia]

Re: White Phosphorous Used against Militants of Lal Mosque

^ or for the families of the people who are now being killed in the series of suicide attacks in pakistan.

PS; pin drop silence expected .. not in volume of a response but in the content