If (Allah forbid) you were a mother of a boy who is diabetic, but he tells you that he only loves watching chocolates and cakes of different types, except the sugar free cakes that you prepare at home (the taste of which he has become used to of). He has very little self control as evident from his hungry eyes when he sees those cakes, that he has not tasted yet. Which option would you select:
Tell him that he can roam around the grocery stores and shops to look at the most delicious looking creamy cakes and chocolates but can’t touch or bite one.
Tell him that he may go to markets but should try to avoid looking at those cakes and chocolates because you fear that one day his temptations might overcome his self control and he would secretly buy one (which he had been longing for a long time) to taste how delicious it is, specially if he gets an offer by anyone. (when you are away)
Select your option. Mods, could you kindly make it a poll if possible.
After you have decided your answer, scroll down to the next question:
If (Allah forbid) you were a wife of a man who can’t control his gaze, and loves to watch with excitement beautiful women from different places, except for his wife at home (of course he has got used to of her beauty). He has very little self control and a strong desire for the forbidden lustful sights as evident from his thirsty eyes. Which option would you select:
Tell him that he can roam around the shopping centers and malls to look at the most (so called) hot looking women but can’t talk to them or secretly take phone number/chat…etc.
Tell him that he can go to shopping centers but (you discourage, wish and pray that) it is better not to look at women because you fear that one day his GROWING temptations might overcome his declining self control and he would secretly start talking/chatting/…etc. with them specially if he gets an offer by anyone, when you are away. (You suspect this relationship might GROW even further)
neither of them..agar beta hota tu ussay samjhati...god forbid agar hubby aisa hota tu kooshish kerti k teekh ho jaye...lekin agar koi control na hota phir i would have left hm.
Btw, I want to clarify that here, there is** no intention of comparing woman with anything**, but the actual concern is **development of a certain EVIL SENSE **towards anything that is forbidden, through initially watching it consistently with "lalchai hui nazar" (as a first step, towards more 'practical' steps to follow)
are you trying to draw parallels tween a mother son and wife husband relationship?!? ....
or a life threatening consequences vs consequences of moral lassitude
first of all .... that is messed up.
2ndly ... apples and oranges my friend ... apples and oranges .....
come up with better analogies please. Thank you.
I agree, from reading one of the other threads, few women dont mind it, and few actually encourage it. later then they regret letting their husbands loose
Btw, I want to clarify that here, there is** no intention of comparing woman with anything**, but the actual concern is **development of a certain EVIL SENSE **towards anything that is forbidden, through initially watching it consistently with "lalchai hui nazar" (as a first step, towards more 'practical' steps to follow)
clearly you missed the boat
what!?!
are you trying to draw parallels tween a mother son and wife husband relationship?!? ....
or a life threatening consequences vs consequences of moral lassitude
first of all .... that is messed up.
2ndly ... apples and oranges my friend ... apples and oranges .....
come up with better analogies please. Thank you.
yes clearly. sadly I’m not blessed with your superior abilities to draw meaningful conclusions from absolute non-sequiturs.
I shall now go and cry my eyes out … :tear:
neither i said you are not blessed
or i have superior abilities
or i can draw meaningful conclusion and you cannot
and i definitely did not imply you should go cry or whatever
neither i said you are not blessed
or i have superior abilities
or i can draw meaningful conclusion and you cannot
and i definitely did not imply you should go cry or whatever
indeed. just as unnecessary as it was for you to comment on my reply. That onus was/is on OP.
so in the interest of preventing any further "de-railing" of this thread ... try n hold back your temptation to respond to this reply of mine :D
indeed. just as unnecessary as it was for you to comment on my reply. That onus was/is on OP.
so in the interest of preventing any further "de-railing" of this thread ... try n hold back your temptation to respond to this reply of mine :D
HA ... couldnt do it could you!
:D
and you have just contributed magnificently (and on point) to the OP's topic.
Man is salve to temptation and its up to each individual to fight or succumb to invitations to do right or wrong .......... no relationship, whether it be mother child, husband wife, can stand in the way ......... the ONLY salvation is a strong relationship with god.
Ta Da! problem solved ... issues answered
the end
and you are welcome! :D
completely incorrect - according to your THEORY, babies should be left to grow and live by themselves from day one ...
lol - bizarre
Man is salve to temptation and its up to each individual to fight or succumb to invitations to do right or wrong .......... no relationship, whether it be mother child, husband wife, can stand in the way ......... the ONLY salvation is a strong relationship with god.
back your argument otherwise admit defeat dont go all over the place
I'm sorry buddy ... you've lost me .... were we in a competition that I must admit defeat??
your circular reasoning and repeated efforts to bring discussions down to personal level bore me.
I contributed in form of my opinion, highlight by a real example (thanks for your participation in that!:D) to OP's thread ...
beyond that, i really dont care if you agree or disagree with me
i know sad :( but true
here another test of temptation for you! ... try NOT to engage me in conversation. :D
I went with the second option. And I would expect my husband to also do this **"lower his gaze and guard his modesty"
It is the best way forward I believe.
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*Tell the believing men to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things(24:30)*
Verily, the hearing, and the sight, and the heart, of each of those ones will be questioned (by Allah) (17:36)
Allah knows the fraud of the eyes, and all that the breasts conceal **(40:19)
*Verily, your Rubb is Ever Watchful (over them)(89:14) ***
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** **1622.* Abu Hurairah (May Allah be pleased with him) said: The Prophet (PBUH) said, "Allah has written the very portion of Zina which a man will indulge in. There will be no escape from it. The Zina of the eye is the (lustful) look, the Zina of the ears is the listening (to voluptuous songs or talk), the Zina of the tongue is (the licentious) speech, the Zina of the hand is the (lustful) grip, the Zina of the feet is the walking (to the place where he intends to commit Zina), the heart yearns and desires and the private parts approve all that or disapprove it" [Al-Bukhari and Muslim]
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If (Allah forbid) you were a mother of a boy who is diabetic, but he tells you that he only loves watching chocolates and cakes of different types, except the sugar free cakes that you prepare at home (the taste of which he has become used to of). He has very little self control as evident from his hungry eyes when he sees those cakes, that he has not tasted yet. Which option would you select:
Tell him that he can roam around the grocery stores and shops to look at the most delicious looking creamy cakes and chocolates but can't touch or bite one.
Tell him that he may go to markets but should try to avoid looking at those cakes and chocolates because you fear that one day his temptations might overcome his self control and he would secretly buy one (which he had been longing for a long time) to taste how delicious it is, specially if he gets an offer by anyone. (when you are away)
After you have decided your answer, scroll down to the next question:
If (Allah forbid) you were a wife of a man who can't control his gaze, and loves to watch with excitement beautiful women from different places, except for his wife at home (of course he has got used to of her beauty). He has very little self control and a strong desire for the forbidden lustful sights as evident from his thirsty eyes. Which option would you select:
Tell him that he can roam around the shopping centers and malls to look at the most (so called) hot looking women but can't talk to them or secretly take phone number/chat....etc.
Tell him that he can go to shopping centers but (you discourage, wish and pray that) it is better not to look at women because you fear that one day his **GROWING temptations* might overcome his declining self control and he would secretly start talking/chatting/...etc. with them specially if he gets an offer by anyone, when you are away. (You suspect this relationship might GROW even further)*
