Which do you think is the most progressive Muslim country?

[vigoratus]

nice mixing of facts and fiction. and yes the most progressive and Islamic country is the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan. inshaAllah it will be an ideal muslim state in the future, which can become a model for the rest of Muslim world.

I believe it will be the entire Khorasan areas of the regions, which includes parts of Pakistan. The progression will then spread to entire Afghanistan and entire Pakistan.

Currently, most progressive in terms of modernity, it would have to be Turkey and Malaysia.

[Aashiq]

Re: Which do you think is the most progressive Muslim country?

Turkey, Lebanon, Indonesia and Malaysia are on the right path.

[mAd_ScIeNtIsT]

nice mixing of facts and fiction. and yes the most progressive and Islamic country is the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan. inshaAllah it will be an ideal muslim state in the future, which can become a model for the rest of Muslim world.

It didn't seem to progress so well in terms of employment, healthcare, education, and agricultural infrastructure development.

Of course, neither did the previous government in Afghanistan before them, or the one that followed.

There doesn't seem to have been any kind of progressive government in Afghanistan in the past 400 years at least. It's been a stagnant or even regressive land.

[firenze]

@cricketplaya

nice mixing of facts and fiction. and yes the most progressive and Islamic country is the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan. inshaAllah it will be an ideal muslim state in the future, which can become a model for the rest of Muslim world.

.. oki you made my day, .. one more joke to add in the book: The thoughts of Mujahid while smoking weed

[firenze]

@vigoratus

I believe it will be the entire Khorasan areas of the regions, which includes parts of Pakistan. The progression will then spread to entire Afghanistan and entire Pakistan.

Currently, most progressive in terms of modernity, it would have to be Turkey and Malaysia.

so you mean when Turkey/Malaysia will go back to stone age, that will be known as progression in poetry of Shah Wali Ullah & his translator Hazrat Zaid Hamid (R.A) … a direct descendant from hell ?

update:
on Turkey Economy…
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/06/business/global/06lira.html?ref=business

[Aceones]

@firenze

so you mean when Turkey/Malaysia will go back to stone age, that will be known as progression in poetry of Shah Wali Ullah & his translator Hazrat Zaid Hamid (R.A) … a direct descendant from hell ?

update:
on Turkey Economy…
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/06/business/global/06lira.html?ref=business

Mr. that poetry which Zaid Hamid translated or propagated was not of “Shah Wali Ullah” verify the facts before you post. Shah Wali Ullah was one great scholar.
one of the greatest reformer of Islam in 18th century. do not blame him for someone else work…

[mercenary2k]

Re: Which do you think is the most progressive Muslim country?

Turkey

Only because the secularization by Ataturk.

[mercenary2k]

@cricketplaya

nice mixing of facts and fiction. and yes the most progressive and Islamic country is the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan. inshaAllah it will be an ideal muslim state in the future, which can become a model for the rest of Muslim world.

That has to be one of the dumbest posts ever on Gupshup. Knowing you, next week you will top yourself with ever more absurdity.

Whats next?

The Taliban Scientists winning the Nobel Prize?

[firenze]

Mr. that poetry which Zaid Hamid translated or propagated was not of "Shah Wali Ullah" verify the facts before you post. Shah Wali Ullah was one great scholar. one of the greatest reformer of Islam in 18th century. do not blame him for someone else work...

lol, .. yeh whatever .. who care what he was or what he did, the point is after the** Islamic golden age** - we produce nothing not even shyt.

[vigoratus]

@firenze

so you mean when Turkey/Malaysia will go back to stone age, that will be known as progression in poetry of Shah Wali Ullah & his translator Hazrat Zaid Hamid (R.A) … a direct descendant from hell ?

update:
on Turkey Economy…
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/06/business/global/06lira.html?ref=business

Perhaps, you would do well to read, re-read, understand, and then reply when you have understood what is being said instead of posting knee-jerk responses.

As far as Zaid Hamid goes, your obsession with him seems greater than any one else I’ve come across here. Just for the record, I could care less what he says. Unlike you (the media bandwagon zombie), I like to make up my own mind.

Now on the topic, since i’m done tutoring on the ethics of replying:

Pakistan, Afghanistan will become the center of change in my opinion. For the better or for the worse. That is why we see all this turmoil right now. Some change has to come out of this. I personally believe, it will be positive and a unifying change. The spirit of which will engulf other countries and start a chain reaction of joint projects, such as the Iran-Pakistan pipeline, or Pak-China defense contract(s), and numerous other ventures that we see right now will just quadruple.

The closer friendly nations draw together, the harder it will become for any outsider to penetrate and invade one again.

So, progression will continue with Turkey leading it as it is right now, followed by Malaysia, and Iran. But Pakistan and Afghanistan will soon join their ranks too.

PS: Now please don’t reply, if you must, then do so without foaming at your mouth. Thanks

[cricketplaya]

@mercenary2k

Turkey

Only because the secularization by Ataturk.

May Allah curse Ataturk and his followers. They were/are the Hitlers of today.

[firenze]

@cricketplaya

May Allah curse Ataturk and his followers. They were/are the Hitlers of today.

yup exactly as per the logic of gay-fasadi-taliban's ..

[Zapatista]

Turkey isn't a Muslim country, even her constitution explicitly says so. Lebanon isn't a Muslim country either.

My vote goes for Iran.

[firenze]

@vigoratus

Perhaps, you would do well to read, re-read, understand, and then reply when you have understood what is being said instead of posting knee-jerk responses.

As far as Zaid Hamid goes, your obsession with him seems greater than any one else I've come across here. Just for the record,** I could care less what he says. **Unlike you (the media bandwagon zombie), I like to make up my own mind.

Good to know, may Hazrat Zaid Hamid (R.A) burn in hell.

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Now on the topic, since i'm done tutoring on the ethics of replying:
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exactly the point of Hazrat Zaid Hamid (R.A) before he opens his mouth...

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Pakistan, Afghanistan will become the center of change in my opinion. For the better or for the worse. That is why we see all this turmoil right now. Some change has to come out of this. I personally believe, it will be positive and a unifying change. The spirit of which will engulf other countries and start a chain reaction of joint projects, such as the Iran-Pakistan pipeline, or Pak-China defense contract(s), and numerous other ventures that we see right now will just quadruple.

The closer friendly nations draw together, the harder it will become for any outsider to penetrate and invade one again.
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Afghanistan was and will be slave of Pakistan and will be historical traitor nation, InshaALLAH. And as far psycho theories of Af/Pak or Pak/AF concerned they will definitely not become reality because:

1) ethnic & tribal divisions in Afghanistan

2) Iran / China / India

3) Saudia & rest of the psycho arab wahabism

4) I don't know any Pakistani who envision Afghanistan as a fifth province except General's & security establishment.

Technically, it's easy to handle a nation as a proxy instead of taking over.

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So, progression will continue with Turkey leading it as it is right now, followed by Malaysia, and Iran. But Pakistan and Afghanistan will soon join their ranks too.
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so what's the point of fight & war by extremists & gay-talibans when the end will be like modern nation of Turkey/Malaysia ?

[Pagluu]

Re: Which do you think is the most progressive Muslim country?

Iran has done quite well despite many sanctions and hurdles.

[a-town_boy]

nice mixing of facts and fiction. and yes the most progressive and Islamic country is the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan. inshaAllah it will be an ideal muslim state in the future, which can become a model for the rest of Muslim world.

it's a shame you claim to be a pakistani and support a country that has always opposed us.. from the time of our creation till now. they blame "pokiston" for all their problems.. i believe if someone farts there, it's probably blamed on pakistan..

P.S when did u get unbanned.. or a better question WHY did u get unbanned??

[underthedome]

@Pagluu

Iran has done quite well despite many sanctions and hurdles.

Really?

There is a last moment international push to stop the Iranian government from stoning a women to death. The women, Sakineh Mohammadie Ashtiani, a mother of two will be buried up to her chest and then stoned to death by rocks, but not any rocks, they want to make sure the rocks aren’t to large as they don’t want her to be killed too quickly. The death sentence ordered by a judge not due to evidence of adultery but based on his ‘personal’ feelings.

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/07/05/iran.stoning/?hpt=T1&fbid=edJBwB4IIVX

[a-town_boy]

@Pagluu

Iran has done quite well despite many sanctions and hurdles.

wid all the hangings and stonings, it's definitely not progressive sorry to say..

[Aashiq]

@Pagluu

Iran has done quite well despite many sanctions and hurdles.

and yes the most progressive and Islamic country is the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan.

Sure everything's possible in lala land

[Pagluu]

Re: Which do you think is the most progressive Muslim country?

^far from perfect, yes, but I went there recently and was totally surprised at what I saw in terms of progress in many areas such as technology, education, healthcare, women rights (yes, women right!).

In my opinion the areas where they must improve are press freedom, more transparency in govt. processes, political imprisonments/torture.