**Aqeedah Tahawiyah **
8. Human imagination cannot conceptualise Him, nor can human Human undertaking grasp His Reality.
48. He is transcendent beyond all limits, ends, supports, components, or instruments. The six directions do not surround Him as they do created things. http://alghazzali.org/resources/articles/aqeedahNotes.pdf
Ash’ari Aqeedah 1.1h He is settled on His Throne and has absolute control over His Kingdom
No one knows the true interpretation of this expression. Imam Malik was asked about it, he said "Setting is known, but ‘how’ is not known. Nothing is hidden from Hm and His control is absolute. He then established Himself firmly on the Throne. Qur’an 10.3
In fiction books written hundreds/thousands of years ago.
to not believe in God is to not believe in yourself, actually ourselves (if you believe we exist) are not required for belief in God. every object or empty space or big bang is proof of God.
we can talk about religions and philosophies, dimensions, whether its my God or your God and what not but existence of a God is beyond Question
nothing can be here without God, but im not aware of any place or space being nothing. everything i can see is something including empty space.
to not believe in God is to not believe in yourself, actually ourselves (if you believe we exist) are not required for belief in God. every object or empty space or big bang is proof of God.
we can talk about religions and philosophies, dimensions, whether its my God or your God and what not but existence of a God is beyond Question
nothing can be here without God, but im not aware of any place or space being nothing. everything i can see is something including empty space.
do you agree or disagree?
I am not an atheist as people usually understand the term - I do not staunchly believe that there is absolutely no designer/controller of the universe. But I am atheist when it comes to the abrahamic god, the hindu gods, the greek gods or the african gods.
^ I'm not sure I want a label cuz it can mean different things to different people. You can say im probably closer to being agnostic than a full out firm atheist regarding some sort of a designer/controller or designing/controlling mechanism.
But I'm much closer to being a firm atheist than agnostic regarding the abrahamic, hindu, greek or african gods.
I do not staunchly believe that there is absolutely no designer/controller of the universe.
you need to develop a basic understanding of what you believe. what you have said is neither here no there
designer/controller is an irrational atribute by itself its no wonder that you cannot commit to it, so lets explore something more basic - Creator
do you believe we can have as little as empty space without a Creator?
is the controller/designer same as the Creator?
you need to develop a basic understanding of what you believe. what you have said is neither here no there
designer/controller is an irrational atribute by itself its no wonder that you cannot commit to it, so lets explore something more basic - Creator
do you believe we can have as little as empty space without a Creator?
is the controller/designer same as the Creator?
Your unecessary condescending tone does not help my motivation to sensibly explain my thoughts to you. I'll try one last time.
I believe what can be proven by modern scientific methods. Faith is not enough. Neither is the mumbojumbo "evidence" that some religious folks try to pass off as evidence. As clearly mentioned in my post, i am not an all out atheist drnying any possibility of there being some sort of a creator/designer/controlle.
My bigger problem is the pack of abrahamic, hindu, greek, african etc gods for which thrre is no specific evidence of. Just their existence that is. Forget the fairytale stories, guidelines etc.
Your unecessary condescending tone does not help my motivation to sensibly explain my thoughts to you. I'll try one last time.
I believe what can be proven by modern scientific methods. Faith is not enough. Neither is the mumbojumbo "evidence" that some religious folks try to pass off as evidence. As clearly mentioned in my post, i am not an all out atheist drnying any possibility of there being some sort of a creator/designer/controlle.
My bigger problem is the pack of abrahamic, hindu, greek, african etc gods for which thrre is no specific evidence of. Just their existence that is. Forget the fairytale stories, guidelines etc.
look when someones nice to you but you disagree i have seen you use words such as fluff/fluffmaster. review your entrance in this thread for yourself and decide if it was rude or not. now i am being straight up with you, on my first post to you i was taking you as an equal, as a joke, but it became apparant, as it was meant to, after your reply that you are a burger kid (american burger kid at that) so it maybe condescending tone but i cant make any apologies or offer any sympathies nor do anything for your motivational well being. find your own motivation dont seek asylum from me. besides your motivation comes from some sort pakistani-indian schism, does it not? you havent spent a few minutes thinking about the issues you are talking about.
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wheres the scientific proven in this statement? you are saying you are going to put an egg in every basket available, but havent as yet done so!
science does not support designa/controlle at all
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so what you gona do? stick with science or walk ahead of it, by simply using your own intelligence?
wheres the scientific proven in this statement? you are saying you are going to put an egg in every basket available, but havent as yet done so!
science does not support designa/controlle at all
so what you gona do? stick with science or walk ahead of it, by simply using your own intelligence?
Why do I have to pick one of either science or a religious basket? It's not always Science vs Religion. You are just trapped in the religious vs atheist zone.