where have all the men gone?

There are two conflicting statements in your post, one is that you can not find/meet the right type of person.

but then you are also doubting yourself in ways and talking about trying to get fit and not being fair.

the second part would not matter if the first was not true at all would it?

or what you are not saying is that you have met the type of guys you like but then they were not interested? and/or you are having confidence issues as you do meet guys who meet your requirements?

not trying to beat up on you in any way at all, but tryign to make you think and get a better sense of the situation.

second- is income being equal or more a real deal breaker? that balance can change even in future even if you guys are in the same field. the right guy would not have an issue if his wife earns more.

third- why are guys born abroad out of the question, depending on background and education, there is a huge variance between personalities and outlook.

last- are your friends and cousins etc finding guys? if so, are these guys trolls and u dont like them at all, if not how and where. See what you can absorb from their experiences.

My observation has been that in the same social circles, same community, same khandan and even sometimes the same household one guy or girl will not have any issues finding someone and one does. seen it in my own khandan, what is the reason? think about it

plz, plenty of shareef guys out there

Thanks for your post! its really thought provoking

What im saying is.....the guys who i do like...are already taken and have very beautiful girl friends, and because i am not really meeting anyone who i like in more than a friend way or who i really feel a connection with and who is muslim (ive had amazing connection with hindu/sikh guys unfortuneately..but obv that remained platonic) im having confidence issues.

Yeah so what im saying is...because im not approached by many men, esp compared to my friends who i must say are stunningly beautiful (syrian, persian) i am having confidence issues and trying to work out is it something in me...if i look better and try and make myself really hot will i be approached by more men....i dont mean this in a bad way...my friends get approached by senior doctors and decent men who are not just after one thing...but because they get approached by so many they get a choice...i hope im making sense...

Its about a man being financially stable not about providing me with luxury goods and i really dont want to earn significantly more than my husband because i want to work part time to look after a family and possibly not work at all when i have young children one day inshallah....if im earning double or triple it would bother me, im looking for someone with ambition and drive in a decent career and something where we would understand eachother and our demanding careers.

Guys born abroad arent a problem i.e from US canada autrailia but i dont really think i would click with someone from pakistan, thats what i thought imported husband meant. I would also be willing to move countries if need be to another western country.

My friends...the friends i am close to....dont have any trouble finding guys...but honestly they are all stunningly beautiful, im not just saying that every guy wants a bit of them.

But thinking about it...one of my close friends she is very beautiful and had real trouble finding a decent man exactly the same problems i am having...she met someone in a different city while out with friends and now she is very happy.

The other girls in my year...yes some are in stable relationships some arent.

This sounds weird......but alot of my friends tell me my expectations of men are too low/wrong in a way, i look for very masculine men who have an air of confidence...and end up going for guys who are just 'bad boys' and really not ready to settle down or only go for having a trophy on their arms.

Maybe i need to change the way i look at men.

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^ or start hanging our with uglier people :p

I think you misunderstood what I said. My post was about not telling other people what you earnt - it wasn't about not telling your husband. If other people don't know what you and your husband earn then why would he feel less of a man if he earns less than you?

A husband can look after a family even if he is on a lesser wage than his wife. My fiance earns more than me at the moment but I know it wouldn't bother him if it was the other way round. In fact he'd be very proud of me. I have the potential, in the next couple of years, to earn almost double what my fiance is earning at the moment, but I know that wouldn't dent his ego and nobody else would know that I earn more anyway because it's none of their business and why should anyone care what other people think?!

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insprion is it you who wants to settle down or are you only thinking about it just coz your parents want you to..

i read your a doctor, i am doing dentistry and was wondering what test do i have to give to practise in uk and are if threre are any requirements the selection.

First of all, i pray that your wish insha'allah come true. Your demands are valid inspiron and i don't think you have to "lower" your expectation. You are well educated individual who is looking for some-one who is in same par as you. Looking for good rishta can be very challenging and especially for girls here in the west. And trust me, i know this because i am a doctor as well here in Canada and get rishtays all the time. Many of my male counterparts who actually studied with me in England when doing my undergrad are now well set in their careers (and are doctors as well) . And they (my buddies) are looking for same criteria as you mentioned. Therefore, never stop trying to look for somebody special.

Also, remember, Allah has created pair for everybody.

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Why would any one ever get married is beyond me.
Just enjoy life, relax .....

^ Well to have proper companionship and of course live in Halal way.. ;)

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seems like british women are in the same boat

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actually it's "where have all the GOOD men gone".............plenty of weirdo men out there :P :P

Thankyou so much for your post, i actually feel a sense of releif that there are other people out there who think a bit like me and understand.

It is tough and worrying and also makes me feel very insecure sometimes!

Maybe i need to lower my standards a little in order to get married, i dont know.

sigh :(

Manisha i totally agree with you haha!!

I think i am ready to settle down ashoka its not my parents who are forcing me at all, i really am ready to settle ive had my fun at uni now its time to look forward and grow up a little.

The lack of rishtay through the my parents and the lack of meeting a man who is good for me in my life is making be worried/low in confidence.

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don't be so quick to give up hope...you're wayy too young to be worried about this. you said all the guys you know/meet have beautiful girlfriends, like to go clubbing, etc. and you want someone who is completely over that phase or never went through it. well, you've got two options then: look for the guys your age in MSA, masjid, or other muslim organizations at college. Or you can wait a bit and give all those other guys to grow out of this partying, dating, clubbing phase and mature into responsible adults. Most of the girls i know, had to rishta-hunt for atleast 2-3 years before they found the right match. InshaAllah you will too :) Just give it time.

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i want someone who has got over that phase...finding someone who hasnt been through it in this day and age is very unlikely!

I think i will have to look for men who are much older than me..atleast by 2 years because they will probably be more mature and over this phase?

I do however think that i should still work on myself and put my best self forward and put myself out there if i want a chance and a choice.

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Inspiron where r u from. r u in uk. which uni u at

and whos the gs mullah.

CM advice waz best

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I would say that is true for me as well however .. I am looking for a girl not a boy .. :p .. i would say it

*every nice and decent girl is committed, engaged, married or she is lesbian .. * .. :(

Inspiron.

I do not know where some posters live. But contrary to others advice, shareef or good guys do exist.

There are a lot of guys who do not go clubbing, drinking girls. A lot of guys formost objective is to study at uni. But yes Everybody needs sociallife. I also go to a westen University.
Im proud to say most of the muslim boys I know do not go clubbing, bars or have girlfriends. Its only the indian and sikh guys that are all into that stuff. However they not are not necceserily bad human beings.
These things individually are not so bad, but the thing is one wrong activity leads to another and another before somebody is really messed up, or done somthing to somebody else which is major, that is bad. A guy cheating or using a girl, does not mean he will not doing it to another tomorow.
And even if he matured, neither that sin of ruing another girls life goes away neither is it wise person to befriend such a irresponsible person

Some people do change or mature. But some do not, some peoples natures, or personalities aspects never change.

Parents often want shareef guys for thier kids, its wise.
Shareef does not only mean a guy who is away from clubbing and girls. A Shareef guy is one who has control over himself, well behaved, has no fights or enemosities with people.

And Although anybodies true colours can emerge later.
The point is INVESTIGATE properly beforehand. Sadly a lot of us do not do these days, of which we face consequences.

Do a lot of meetings before finalising anything.

Oh yes. The most corrupt students are in the elite and the poorest ranked unis of any country. U know why.
The same way the earths billion richest and billion poorerare the earths biggest pollutants.
Middle is best.

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thanks for your post nutwer...yup im at a uk university, im not really comfortable saying which one online though!

I know there are shareef guys out there somewhere, but i cant find them! i only know 2 types of guys at uni....the ones who do go clubbing or the ones who dont talk to girls at all and dont like me because i dont wear a hijab...the one or two in between...taken....they are my beautiful middle eastern friends!!

Maybe im just unlucky!! haha

I just hope i can find someone soon!! the investigation cmes later.....but actually finding someone comes first!

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That sounds unrealistic.

Im also here. I know the culture. There are also in between boys, those that are neither clubbing nor refrain from mix interaction.

Yes, you are unlucky. Keep looking

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which uni are u at nutwer?

i really think i need to look for older men, not 22 year olds as i dont think any 22 year old is ready to settle down!