You are still showing complete ignorance of what is being discussed. I said earlier, you MUST be capable of better intellect than this.
Extorting bhatta by some individuals has nothing to do with what TLK was saying about atrocities against Urdu speakers.
And regarding bhatta. You are following in Spock’s racist tradition. Selective criticism. Bhatta is collected by several groups in Karachi. An unfortunate example of this was the Sher Shah massacre, where PPP’s Lyari gangs killed several shopkeepers for refusing to give them extortion money.
This disease is widespread all around the country. Here is an example of bhatta-khori from PMLN MPA and MNA.
Does this mean that this bhatta was ordered by PMLN leadership? Or do you think it was the act of those individuals alone?
It is interesting that you posted that particular incident because it has been one often used by the MQM to paint urdu-speakers as victims, when the story is rather more complicated. It also allows me the chance to expose the MQM hypocrisy in this regard. Did you know who led that particular attack? It was Gohar Ayub, the son of Preisdent Ayub.
Now the MQM sat in govt with the likes of Gohar Ayub for periods amounting to some 8 years (1990-92, 97-98 and more lately 2002 - 2007). Also, Gohar Ayub has paid visits to “Nine Zero” with other PML Q leaders. Not once have I heard the MQM utter a statement against Gohar Ayub for his primary role in leading the Liaqatabad killings of 1964, which proves beyond a doubt that the MQM is a party that cares less about urdu-speakers and more about’s personal political and financial interests. It has used the actual or perceived discrimination of the past decades to further it’s won interests and it’s supporters do not understand that the MQM terroristic ways have more done more harm to the urdu speaking people than anything else.
Yes, you did not have to show that hateful side at least in this thread, because others like Spock were doing the doing the bidding on your behalf. So by 'you' I meant people like you.
Now coming back to point. Would you give similar advice to others, and not just selectively to MQM?
Show me where I have abused anyone in any of the threads before now or STFU. This is my last response to your idiotic remarks.
Yes, for anyone who kills, kidnaps, robs, extorts, cheats or lies is a pig, including MQM, PML, PPP, ANP, taliban leaders or anyone else you want to include in the list. Khush?
What a great defense! Others are criminals as well and there MQM has a right to do anything and should not be criticized for that very reason and anyone who criticizes MQM is a racist. Typical Nazi strategies. Propaganda, lies and violence.
Yes, for anyone who kills, kidnaps, robs, extorts, cheats or lies is a pig, including MQM, PML, PPP, ANP, taliban leaders or anyone else you want to include in the list. Khush?
Still not happy. That is a very general statement. Anyone doing bad thing is bad. What I am saying is that every allegation that is thrown at MQM is done by other parties as well. Therefore if condemnation is to made then it should be directed towards anyone, and not just selective condemnation of MQM alone.
And if anyone chooses selective criticism then it would only be due to racism he would have against those people.
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Others are criminals as well and there MQM has a right to do anything and should not be criticized for that very reason and anyone who criticizes MQM is a racist.
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Nobody defended wrong things done by some MQM individuals. But like said above, the point is that selective criticism exposes the racist out of people like you.
While MQM is not exactly a farishta party, it is amusing that you guys will accept every allegation made against it without even thinking about it. The hatred you have clouds the logical mind which I am sure most of you possess. But it is this hatred which makes your arguments illogical.
One example of this accepting every allegation was when Nisar Ali alleged that MQM killed one of its former member, and the very next day the same guy was on TV.
People like you and Spock are so much mad with hatred that you won't even acknowledge good efforts that MQM has done in the country. For example, its stand against khariji terrorism is second to none in the country. While people like Imran Taliban and Shahbad/Sanaullah continue to side with Talibanic extremism.
It is interesting that you posted that particular incident because it has been one often used by the MQM to paint urdu-speakers as victims, when the story is rather more complicated.
That is just one example of why Urdu speakers developed victim mentality. But I believe this incident was quoted by TLK as an example that there are other people involved in violence in Karachi.
The point is that your biased eyes only see problems in MQM when similar problem exist in every party.
haha khoji, ab rona band kar dey yar… pretty much everyone, even the mqm supporters have admitted here to MQM’s militancy… p.s. did you guys find a female army ‘zanaana’ wardi for altaf hussain, because a few days ago he claimed he was going to come wearing one :hehe: Make sure it fits!
Like I care what you think, Mr. MQM haha! p.s. I speak Urdu, and alot of ppl here ‘personally’ know that, so your little mqm victim card wont work here…
MQM is a khwaarrji terrorist organization, there you go… Now keep crying
p.s. stop focusing on me everytime MQM gets criticized, and try to defend it with some hard facts. I know you hate me and would love to send your MQM goons to kill me, but this is a discussion forum and its not about me or you here… You and altaf hussain are racists, just a few days ago when some politician in punjab criticized altaf hussain, one of your MQM sub-dons said ‘punjab key har ghar mey mujra hota hai’. And then you start playign the vitcim card! haha
So why are you jumping out of your pants when I abuse Altaf Hussain? You are free to abuse Imran Khan, Nawaz Sharif, or anyone else in the SAME manner if you choose to do so, but dont stop me from doing so.
To answer your first question, if any other party, including the PPP engages in militancy of such mangnitude, which they dont, I'd be the first person to criticize them. PPP's problem is bad governance and corruption, whereas MQM's problem is terrorism and militancy.
Another childish argument. The only kharijis we have are the ones who call other Muslims kafirs and wage “jihad” against Muslims. That’s what Taliban fanatics are. And those are the people Nawaz/Shahbad and other racists like Imran Taliban support.
You posted this in response to a post of mine, but failed to respond to ANYTHING I said in that post. You were saying that PPP is corrupt but does not have militant history. I gave you some examples of militancy their people have shown.
You seem to be losing your composure. May be this is why your posts have started to move away from reasonable arguments and becoming more and more childish.
There is a reason why MQM khawarji terrorists are known as the Talibans of the south, they have killed MORE people in the last few months than the Taliban.
because some weeny didnt get selected in the PIA for service. .
off topic but 2 can play this racial slurs game too.
some weeny from karachi did not get a job because PIA was already full of lassi drinking weeners. Today PIA is where it is because of that jackass culture where the qualification of hiring was that person should be 'sada gara'een'. No further merit or education required.
So why are you jumping out of your pants when I abuse Altaf Hussain? You are free to abuse Imran Khan, Nawaz Sharif, or anyone else in the SAME manner if you choose to do so, but dont stop me from doing so.
First of all, your abuses to Altaf are tantamount to pure bigoted racism.
Secondly, your abuses are not confined to Altaf alone, but towards the whole party.
Your abuses towards one single party alone, with complete disregard to militancy by other groups in Karachi, shows off the racist bigotry in you.
If it is not racism then it would be strange that a non-Karachiite be so much interested in the politics of the city and the party which represents mostly one particular group of people.
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To answer your first question, if any other party, including the PPP engages in militancy of such mangnitude, which they dont, I'd be the first person to criticize them.
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I gave you examples of PPP's terrorism.
Besides, ANP also indulges in terrorism. Where is your criticism of that?
TLK -> lol english might not be your first language, nor mine, but weeny is NOT a racial slur, and the plural of weeny is weenies, not weeners... lol Weeny means a 'nobody', as in unimportant, which I was citing to compare your justification of the murder of thousands just because something unimportant didnt happen...
There is a reason why MQM khawarji terrorists are known as the Talibans of the south, they have killed MORE people in the last few months than the Taliban.
Kidos like you don't even know you to spell khariji or khawarij. I am sure you don't even know why Taliban are called khawarij in the first place. Heck, you don't even seem to know who actually were khawarij.
You can call them whatever you like, but can not call them 'khawarij'. Anyone you consider a terrorist is not necessarily a 'khariji'.
Now puttar, come here and listen. Taliban are called kharijis because they share some traits with them. Both used to consider themselves austere Muslims and everyone else a kafir. Thus both resorted to violence against other Muslims because they did not consider them Muslims at all.
First of all, your abuses to Altaf are tantamount to pure bigoted racism.
Secondly, your abuses are not confined to Altaf alone, but towards the whole party.
Your abuses towards one single party alone, with complete disregard to militancy by other groups in Karachi, shows off the racist bigotry in you.
If it is not racism then it would be strange that a non-Karachiite be so much interested in the politics of the city and the party which represents mostly one particular group of people.
I gave you examples of PPP's terrorism.
Besides, ANP also indulges in terrorism. Where is your criticism of that?
Not my problem if you're so madly in love with Altaf Bhai. He is a convicted murderer as per the supreme court of Pakistan, so as much as you are in love with him, I wont stop abusing him. Same goes for his terrorist party. :) Again you are free to abuse anyone else whom you might think I might be associated with (and you have so I dont even need to remind you). p.s. havent you ever seen Altaf Hussain and realized the man is a total joke? Seriously... I mean sometimes the blind love and loyalty must wear out a little bit...
Now keep crying