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I wasn’t avoiding the question, just asking a follow-up to help me formulate an answer.
I don’t take my dog out for a crap. I open the back door and tell him to go to the woods out back and take a poop.
I provide him w/a complete rulebook for life including guidelines on when and where to poop, what to eat (and not eat), how to act in social situations etc…
He thinks I’m a kind and rational god because I let him eat bacon and socialize with b!tches.
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Comparing Chechyans to Osama is rather stupid in itself.
Was Jesus a pacifist? I don't know...maybe, maybe not. Within any reasonable historical interpretation of his message, one could just as well say he was absoloutely not an agitator, and had no interest in confronting the Romans...maybe for fear of the effects it would have on his followers (and as it would soon be learnted, the Romans were eager to pick on Christians even though they didn't agitate...).
Pacifism as an ideology is a non starter. But then, any such message would be tangential to Jesus's rather singular mission of spreading the 'good news'.
Other than other-worldly allusions, I am hard pressed to find explicit condemnation of Romans or their behavior (slavery, treatment of women, war mongering) in Christ's message.
But then, as far as I'm concerned, preeching no god but god is really what it was all about.
Comparing Moses or Muhummad (peace be upon them) to Jesus (and upon him too) is folly...the former were statesmen whereas Jesus was not. Christ's biggest problem were his own people...not surrounding tribes who were NOT persecuting him.
In the end, this isn't lost on most Christians...who throughout history and to this day are anything but pacifist. Quakers come out as the solitary exemption to this rule, and in my opinion are the only true pacfisits out there...
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Very nice read, Lajawab, and thanks for sharing !
Just a few question. Please correct me if I am wrong.
It has been said that when the sun will rise from the West, no more repentance will be accepted.
Will this happen after or before the advent of (and the death of) Hazrat Isa (as) & Imam Mehdi?
I've heard by many people, and read in many places (show called 'Sun Rising from the West' at IslamiCity.com), that this phrase 'Sun rising from the West' refers to 'Light' & 'Knowledge' rising from the 'West'. As seen today, Islam is the fastest growing religion in the 'West'. And, more and more knowledge is, and has been emerging from the West (i.e: America & Europe), for some time.
I've also read that there will come a time-period after Hazrat Isa (as) when Muslims will prosper, and Islam will be widely practiced. Now, another issue arises: If the above phrase is correct, it indicates that the 'Sun rising from the West' will happen before or during the advent of Hazrat Isa (as) & Imam Mehdi, as it is already happening & we have seen neither of the two peoples yet. If this is true, then how can one possibly practice Islam completely, without repenting?
I've always thought of "Sun rising from the West' as a physical phenomenon that will happen during the very end of times, the time period when no new-borns will be born, and nobody will die for 40 years, until the Hour comes.
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Recent announcement of an international force bound for lebanon gives a small hint of whats enstored. Mind you, I think they will need a local guy to do the dirty work in the region, more like a puppet. I've read that a man named Sufyaani will take up the control of syria (in rajab perhaps), and for that to happen the alawi shia would have to cede power (or he could come from them, since he'll claim he is Mahdi).
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I guess in your bizarro world the “stu pid” comment is so incredibly clever that you get to use it twice?
You’re a tough one to understand AQ, but I “divine” that your asking if I believe God’s authority extends beyond a place of worship?
Yes, I do and so does my dog. His utmost doggie desire is to please, regardless of time or place. He’s very pious and for that I give him plenty of "good boy!"s.
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Peace for all the sane
I’ve just joined here, & am not used to online religious discussions. I’ve just come from the Middle East to the UK, and a native of Venezuela, Himalayas, Gilgit, Syria, US, Italy and Romania in my ancestral background. And Ive lived in Pakistan, Afghanistan, India and so forth while rowing up, before being 20, much. I’m well known there & have good links with some firm and frank people.
I’ve studied near enough all the major world religions at one point or another, and have always believed in one God.
Anyway, I’m no aalim huffaz etc, but I remember a few vague aspects of Islam.
So I’d like to comment and question you a few…
I apologise, b/cus I haven’t read the thread apart from the post quoted. I am very short of time usually & the net is not something I spend much time on.
IIRC, there was this or a similar hadith as such stated by Hasan bin Ali bin Abu Talib, who also gave an explanation for this. It was regarding the Last Hour and the coming of Mahdi that this was foretold. The events procluded here are these events that will build up to him coming forth. Also that time will be the second worst time ever, with the worst people and OPEN kuffar on peoples hearts and lips by day by night, as stated and knwon clearly.
Where is this mentioned? I havent heard of this ever, BUT when the Sufyani will arrive he will attack these, not what you have stated by any means.
Which ahadith is this? the only ones I know are authetic for sure are the ones referring to Sufyani again, attacking from Iraq NOT Syria, and that will be when they are after a man from the Prophet Muhammads family as said. Most interpreters have assumed this is the Mahdiullah.
What? There is zero mention of Judeo-Christian in Islamic end times, BUt with the Dajjal, whom will have support of Jews of Isfahan, Iran. Can you please clarify? In fact, the Mahdi is to fight exactly where most of you live…the WEST!!!
Ther are MANY things sacrosanct to Jews/Christians JUST like those for a believer for any religion. But the believers that is, those that are knowledgable etc. For one, they value life, although it be their own and wealth/pleasures much mroe than anything else.
I have honestly NEVER heard of this what your referring to. ONLY similar statement I have heard is, when the Muslims will come from the East, the black banners of Islamic caliphate will rise from Khurasan (present day Afghan), with Mansur as the batallion leader, along with Harith ibn Hirath and Mahdi at the forefront as a youth. Btw, these are strictly ARABIC names, ponder.
As far as ANYONE is concerned, Afghanistani culture and beliefs are NOT on par at all with the other cultural ones. They take four wives which other cultures, saying they are also Muslims, detest vehemently.
huh? Its only said they will be on theur way with SUFYANI coming. This seems as a disinformation campaign. Or you are seriously misunderstood and misinterpreting.
Do you know, its meant to be 316-320 or so people ONLY with the ones whove took refuge alongside Mahdi in the Kaba? the same # as Badr etc…and its said th same as those who passed the Roiver Jordan when fighting Jalut, at the time of King Talut.
You have them the wrong way round.
Yes. Iran and Syria are allied on this. Because they are aware that the US/UK Western puppets are behind this war of Israel backing. Thus if Israel attacks with the current arsenal, they have combined to collide. Nuclear!
The same as they already have. MUCH more is more imprtant to Muslims than any Kab’a which they even spit on and complacently watch while doing pilgrimage. Their fathers and ancetars sold themselvs for money. Im talking about Indian and Pakistani ones here especially.
However, emotion is not the key to anything but belief is. belief comes through at all times, not requiring incentives.
Can you imagine a prophet watching Tv and Fox, with lady presenters, and music? Puh gross mockery and how do these so called Muslims seem to do all this happily, I wonder
ALL the world is in shambles upside down. YET look around truthfully…its MONEY that counts…>REP>WEALTH>POWER>FAME etc.
I hope you’ll address my points. Any comments, feel free to do so, with a view in mind, that thers a God who’ll take you to account…and that could be now, if your roof falls on you resulting in death.
As for the ME, its destroyed. Iraq is totally FULL of male female UNDERAGE prostitues and massive sex rings. If there is No demand, there can NEVER be any of this!
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What hadith's are these that say Syria will be attacked from two sides?
And what makes you assume it will be Americans advancing upon and attacking Makkah/Madina?
And it would be nice if you guys simply provided links or quoted some hadith to provide some reference point to all these predictions. I'm assuming none of this is in the Quran (i.e. Makkah/Madina being attacked).
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and Lajjo woke up from his wet dream.....there were no barbarians at the gate, they were actually inside.....those who preach hatred, act as if they r the chosen one's, openly declare others kaffir as if they are judge and jury, those who desecrate everything the Muslim Prophet preached, those who wud like to go back to the Qureish Jahillya yet propagate their dubious Islamic credentials.....
Wakeup guys, its nothing but a wet dream....world moves on with u or w/o u...
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What are your predictions? Is that day going to come in our generation? I mean no, we can die already but in how far like. Before coming of Dajjal, I heard that people will lack of many things. I want that day to come in which I want to be Martyrs one of them.
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Thanku Lajjo, I totally agree with u, your droppings are fit for your kinda believers only…playing on emotions, trying to exploit situations to suite a particular view, twisting reality…and the Lajjo bunny keeps going going going…
