Re: When Arabs kill innocent Arabs: There is no protest from the "Islamic world"
Israelis are killed all the time, the media cycle is so short that no one notices. Israelis demolish in response to homicide bombings, pary tell, what did the Sudanese do to be killed by their own fellow Muslims? Muslims commit a lot more violence against each other, yet only scream about Jews.
Last week alone, how many Muslims were killed by Muslims? Thre are no Jews demolishing houses in Iraq. The Jews are not slitting the throats of christian schoold girls. There is no need to ride any coat tail, all the fodder is provided by Muslims.
Re: When Arabs kill innocent Arabs: There is no protest from the "Islamic world"
Does that justify throwing inncoent people out of their homes and bulldozing them, does that justify killing of innocent women and children. I don't think so.
Re: When Arabs kill innocent Arabs: There is no protest from the "Islamic world"
It is a punitive measure. If you are a homicide bomber, that is a small penality for killing tens of people. By the way, I'm willing to bet more Muslims are killed in Sudan in a month by Muslims than by Israelis in a year. I bet more Muslims are killed in Iraq in a month than by Israelis in a year.
The Islamic world practices selective outrage and duplicity. Rampage because of cartoons, but nothing when people are killed in the name of religion.
Re: When Arabs kill innocent Arabs: There is no protest from the "Islamic world"
Based on what are you saying this. Is there any State law in that region which prohibits them from visiting their holy sites. A palestinian state till date has never come into existence then by whose laws were they barred. Was this in the Ottoman empire, I would to see detailed data stating this.
Re: When Arabs kill innocent Arabs: There is no protest from the "Islamic world"
Lets not talk about selective outrage and duplicity. it happens everywhere. Outrage when hindus are killed in Kashmir, not a whimper when muslims are burnt alive in Gujrat.
Re: When Arabs kill innocent Arabs: There is no protest from the “Islamic world”
You got part of my statement, the reporting is one sided here, and the reporting s one sided there i.e. the media there does not report some the stuff like in sudan the ay it does palestine or Iraq, news dont sell sensationalism sells, which is the same reaosn that media outlets here dont focus on things which dont scream..read me.
Thats just half or rather, less than half of the story. Statistically speaking wat is the likelihood that 3K people would come out and birn stuff and do this and that becaise of some tragedy in Pelestine, but silence rules when all that is going on on darfur gos on? The answer is simple, its certain political groups who orchestrate these things. To an avg joe or avg javed there is little interest in this, human in general are apathetic and busy wit their own lives, they may consider it tragic and talk about it as being such in their communities and at events but thats about it.
So when you see these ‘protests’ realize that in many cases these are paid ppl, bussed around by the political parties who just want to show their muscle to their foes and use this as a bargaining chip in getting power, seats, positions and stuff. Its about time thatavg muslims as well as their rabid critics both realize that.
The premise of the argument that Arabs are only outraged when non-Arabs kill Arabs is misleading. Rather, it is a different *type *of outrage than that expressed when non-Arabs, especially foreign non-Muslims, kill Arabs. Incidents of people of the same country killing each other is general criminal behavior, not to be confused with fatalities resulting from foreign military conflict. While I agree that the fundamental concept of loss of life is identical, the conditions surrounding domestic criminal behavior and war fatalities are not the same. Obviously people are used to crime, whether it be robbery or murder, as a general fact of human life that is more or less not peventable. But fatalities from war, especially in the case of Iraq, would not have occured without the war.
I think whomever started this thread, wanted to convey that Arabs should equally be outraged when Arabs, especially those belonging to radical extremist groups, kill other Arabs. That's a fine point, but it wasn't communicated appropriately.
Finally, it is not just the Arabs that are guilty of this type of selective outrage. In fact, everywhere in the world, people are generally more suspicious of outsiders and more likely to treat them more harshly that their own kind.
I think whomever started this thread, wanted to convey that Arabs should equally be outraged when Arabs, especially those belonging to radical extremist groups, kill other Arabs. That's a fine point, but it wasn't communicated appropriately.
Finally, it is not just the Arabs that are guilty of this type of selective outrage. In fact, everywhere in the world, people are generally more suspicious of outsiders and more likely to treat them more harshly that their own kind.
Basically Arabs are racist.
Arabs beleive that since Prophet Muhammed (PBUH) was an Arab, Islam came from Arabia, that Arabs are the chosen people of God.
I have lived in Saudi Arabia for 12 years. Arabs treat other Arabs or Europeans with much more respect and dignity than Pakistani Hajjis going for Hajj.
Thats just the mindset they have. They feel superior.
And this exactly the reason why they get their ass kicked wher ever they go.
Whether is riots in Paris, to anti-arab riots in Sydney, to anti-arab riots in Iran, etc.
Its the arab mentality of feeling superior that there is no peace in Israel.
When an arab kills an arab, arabs dont care.
But when a jew kills an arab, there is outrage. How could a race of people who angered Allah kill the chosen people of God?
I think what's racist is to generalize about a whole group of people in such an way. To claim that a specific group, or race, of people is racist is in and of itself racist.
What you claim isn't true. Of course, certain *individual *Arabs may be racist, but there are racists in every ethnic group. You can't just generalize about a whole group of people like that.
What you claim isn't true. Of course, certain *individual *Arabs may be racist, but there are racists in every ethnic group. You can't just generalize about a whole group of people like that.
Look buddy.
I have been around Arabs all my life. Whether it was in Saudi Arabia or in a heavily Arab school in Toronto or vising my uncle near the Paris ghettos full of Arabs.
Every single Pakistani who has lived in the Arab world, better yet, every single south asian who has lived in the arab world says that arabs are racist and its true.
I am not saying that there arent any arabs who are not racist but the majority of them are.
Re: When Arabs kill innocent Arabs: There is no protest from the "Islamic world"
How many killed in Iraq due to insane marines or "collateral" damage? Not keeping score?
As for Somalia, overall the violence is a move towards stability (which is more than can be said for Iraq).
It should be noted that the warlords (not nice people, whom are hated by the people) are supported by the US in spite of being their targets back in the '90s as the (rightly) identified cause of Somalia’s chaos, while the Islamic courts (backed by Somali business and fledgling community leaders) are the first sign of some kind of normalcy in decades.
Whereas it's disgusting the state of affairs exist, any move to normalcy must be welcome. ON the other hand, given the foreign medaling for purely selfish reasons and at the expense of native Somalis simply reinforces our indignation against and suspicion of Western medaling in Muslim lands. We may be killing each other, but when you involve the West, it simply makes matters worse.
How Muslim-on-Muslim violence excuses non-Muslim on Muslim violence is an open question that has yet to be answered.
Re: When Arabs kill innocent Arabs: There is no protest from the "Islamic world"
On the contrary, the logic being purported here is that it is okay for a Jew or Gora to kill us Muslims so long as Muslims are also kiling Muslims. Obviously, the more Muslims that die, the more people like you are happy...no matter who is doing the killing. At least, that's the meaningful message that can be gleaned from your seemingly giddy reaction to Muslim-on-Muslim violence.
lets see you go for an umrah in saudi arabia and lets see how long u have to stand in line at customs where as europeans are ushered through as if they are VIP
Whose to blame for earning such a reputation. However South Asians are no less racist. All nations are. We are all arrogant about something we have and the others don't.
Arabs respect money and power. Now I'm not stereotyping however a good percentage of them are like that. Same thing with Pathans. "Pathan paisa khata hai". Popular catch phrase.
Pakistan does not have the power to economically help them and as far as technically there are many choices besides us. So they have little to hold on to us when it need be. Pakistan on the other hand can always extract economic merit from them but little in terms of technology.
In todays world sadly your respect comes from your worth.