When Arabs kill innocent Arabs: There is no protest from the "Islamic world"

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Why it is that life is cheap in the hand of Arabs, 19 Iraqis and 5 Palestinians, 15 Somalis have been killed today in three separate incidents. Yet, there is no mourning at the national level, no protests, no candle light vigils.

Why it is that we are bothered only if we can blame Americans or the West. Otherwise it remains “sub chalta hai” (let it be).

This is the hypocracy practiced daily by the Arabs. Sad utterly sad!

**Somalia: 15 killed by Islamists

** Islamists seize key Somali town
** Somalia’s Islamic Courts militia has seized a key town outside the capital, Mogadishu, from a member of the warlord alliance it is fighting. ** Balad, 30km (19 miles) north of Mogadishu, lies on the main road to Somalia’s most fertile regions.
It was controlled by warlord Muse Sudi Yalahow, who is officially trade minister in the transitional government set up to bring peace to Somalia.
The latest Islamist victory comes after they had seized much of the capital.
The warlords have controlled Mogadishu since they toppled Somalia’s last effective government 15 years ago.
This year’s clashes have been the most serious for more than a decade, with some 330 people killed in the past month.
** Warlords retreat **
At least 15 people were killed in the fight for Balad, local residents said.
Mr Yalahow’s gunmen fled towards the town of Jowhar, they said.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/5046402.stm

Palestine: 5 killed by Islamists
Five bystanders killed in Gaza shootings: medics
Sun Jun 4, 2006 4:57 PM ET

GAZA (Reuters) - Palestinian gunmen killed five bystanders in two separate shooting incidents in the Gaza Strip on Sunday as tension between rival factions in the impoverished territory deteriorated even further.
In the southern Gaza Strip town of Khan Younis gunmen killed a pregnant Palestinian woman and another family member and wounded her husband and his brother, a Hamas militant, hospital sources said.
Witnesses said gunmen, whose identity was unclear, shot at local Hamas leader Mohammad al-Ghalban as he was traveling in a car with family members after dark in the town.
http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID=2006-06-04T205713Z_01_L04740652_RTRUKOC_0_US-MIDEAST-VIOLENCE.xml&archived=False

Iraq: 20 executed (students included)
BAGHDAD, Iraq, June 4 — Iraqi political leaders failed to reach agreement on the two most important cabinet posts today, further delaying the formation of a new government and underscoring just how divided Iraq’s political establishment has become.
The delay came as Iraqis suffered a fresh wave of violence, including the daylight execution of 20 Iraqi commuters, including students in a minibus north of Baghdad.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/04/world/worldspecial/05iraqcnd.html?hp&ex=1149480000&en=ebbed749b57d1a60&ei=5094&partner=homepage

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Re: When Arabs kill innocent Arabs: There is no protest from the "Islamic world"

You mean the media don't give a *hit.

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Re: When Arabs kill innocent Arabs: There is no protest from the "Islamic world"

Actually, the AK-47 is the biggest "Weapon of Mass Destruction" in the Muslim world. But hey, unless the killing is done by a jew or a Gora it is all OK........

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Re: When Arabs kill innocent Arabs: There is no protest from the "Islamic world"

Its all the same aint it, when a muslim is involved in terrorism then everyone jumps up and down but when a non-muslim is involved then its just standard crime. Almost makes you question the meaning of "terrorism".

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kingshah, sadly the largest number of large scale actions in the name of religion have come from us muslims, I mean the only way we can solve this mess is to admit there is a problem among the misguided souls who are doing this.

as far as antiobl's point goes, I am in 100% agreement. Anyone with spare time on their hands can go and tally up ow many times our MMA leaders have spoken out against israel but had few words for the junjaweed or the warlords in somalia.

Picky eaters
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Re: When Arabs kill innocent Arabs: There is no protest from the "Islamic world"

There is veracity in the argument. However lets not stereotype by saying this only plagues the Arab world. South asians are no exception to this. Generally muslims have been divided into so many factions its a mess now. Each one saying "Allah us ko hidayat de". This is what happens when only religious knowledge exists but no wisdom left to use that knowledge.

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Re: When Arabs kill innocent Arabs: There is no protest from the “Islamic world”

And may be the problem actually exists in the ‘knowledge’ that is just impossible or not reccomended for you to recognize.

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Its all the same. How many times has America condemned Israeli brutality in occupied lands. How many times has Israel condmened US occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan and the resultant deaths of innocent people there. Every one looks after his own interests. Look at this forum, people have rigid position and they always defend the side they sympathise with.

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Since the entire problem in the region is created by Arabs, why should USA condemn Israel?

Israel did not want a war in 1967. Israel did not want to invade and occupy the sinai, golan, west bank and gaza strip. It was the arabs who started the war with Israel and are now paying the price.

Israel very harshly condemned the prisoner abuse at Abu Gharib.

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ehsan so in a roundabout indirect way you do agree that what I posted is infact accurate.

I have never shied away from the fact that US looks out of its own interests, now ehether the war machine beats the drums opf democracy or freedom for others and all, one has to be naive to believe it. Everyone looks out for their interests whether its France or Russia or heck Pakistan or Saudi Arabia. Pakistan watched out for its own interests as it helped instal the Taliban regime in Afghanistan, border issues, the pissing contest with Iran issues, trying to have some control on the drugs and guns comign in issues, whatever it was. Saudis ofcourse wanted to counter irans shia influence with their wahabi so madrisssas were supported, all kinds of text books came in, funding went to MMA goons etc etc.

How long until people realize that our banner waving, book banging, foaming at the mouth, ummah saviors, defenders of teh faith aree in this whole game for themselves. They dont give a rats ass when junjaweed kill muslims, they seem to worry about palestinian muslims, or kashmiri muslims more than they worry about behari muslims stuck in Bangladesh, or kurdish muslims under saddam.

Lets call em out for what they are, self serving, power hungry, greedy, sleazy politicians just hiding behind beards and banners of islam.

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Dumb argument.

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I disagree with the face value of this argument. Israel when created should have realized they would never have peace in the middle of the Arab heartland. It was a conscience choice which their leaders made way back when and now there is no easy way out of it. It is the British who deserve the real blame, they betrayed the formation of an Arab confederation and also put the Jews in no less than a hell on earth.

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The problem in Iraq is not the Jews. The problem in Indonesia is not Israel. The Jews are not killing in Sudan. The Jews are not behind sectarian violence in Pakistan. The Jews are not destablizing Saudi Arabia.
The Islamic world has serious problems, and the Jews have nothing to do with it. If Nutjob wipes Israel off the face of the map, the Arabs and the Islamic world will continue to have all of their problems. Other than Jihad and oil, there is little that comes from the Islamic world. The Islamic world refuses to look at its own problems, that have little to do with anything other their own myopia.

What's up today?
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Re: When Arabs kill innocent Arabs: There is no protest from the "Islamic world"

And I am not in denial that the Islamic world has problems however in the case of the Isreali-Palestinian conflict it was Jews' mistake on the geographical boundary they chose to create Israel. Why can't we gather all the muslims in USA and give them one state to live in? Lets say we create a muslim state in place of Georgia without altering the remaining geography of USA. Do you think that will fly?

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Re: When Arabs kill innocent Arabs: There is no protest from the "Islamic world"

Except for the fact that Israel is the Jewish homeland. They have been there for centuries. Not to mention, they were not even allowed to worship in their most sacred holy site until they won it in 1967. Your analogy is false.
The fact remains the Muslim leader point fingers for their shortcomings. Jew have little to do with the probolems of the Muslims. Muslims are killing each other from Afghanistan to Somalia, but not a little peep from the Islamic world.

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sorry, there is more than a peep from the muslim world but just not by our so called religious-political leaders and biased media outlets. Similar to how fox news only paints one side of the picture :) muslim world is more than these groups.

In most cases the information is not there. Many people dont know it. Those who know about it react to it the same way they react to stuff happening in palestine or Iraq. They dont go out in streets to burn shops, they condemn it in discussions among family and friends and live their life.

Do people really believe that the rallies and riots seen on TV are general population going out and doing it on their own? its a well orchestrated and planned even staged by certain political groups. And yes.. those political groups are not concerned about the killings in sudan etc because they dont get political currency for their own power from that.

fairly simple phenomenon.

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There are peeps from the muslim world which you would get to know about if start watching muslim news channels. By what right is Israel a jewish homeland. It was not such during any era until it was proclaimed such by the creation of Israel. Infact it was called palestine i.e. traditionally Philistine because of people who settled their. Anyway just because Arabs form the majority population in the area does not give Jews the right to come and claim it on historical basis and start eliminating Arabs from there. And there were nations before Jews who have had Jeruslem as their holy site then what about them. What about the muslim holy sites, the chrsitian holy sites, based on your argument that give them equal rights to the place as Jews. Muslims believe in all the prophets and Jeruslem has sacred to all of them so muslims should have more right to it. Jews don't accept all the prophets. So religiously then muslims have more right. Geographically Arabs have more right and morally both could have co-existed if the notion of a jewish state was not inbetween.

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I agree, a lot of the reporting is very one sided. It paints large portions of the population with a single stroke, but you know, there is a serious preception problem. I think many Muslims recognize it, but most don't. What the world sees is rampaging at silly cartoons, but nothing when hundreds are killed everyday in Iraq. One Palestinian is shot by an Israeli and the Islamic world takes to the streets, 230,000 Sudanese Muslims killed by fellow Muslims 2.3 million displaced, all within the last two years, and no protests, no marches, no calls for jihad.

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I don't think I understand what you are saying. Are you saying that the land belonged to some other people before it was Jewish? You mean prior to Moses? And what does Muslims believing in prophets have to do with this? Afterall, it was Muslims, with their belief in all the prophets, that barred Jews from worshiping in their most holy site. The Jews have not barred anyone from any of their holy sites.

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Exactly the reporting is one sided. One Israeli is killed and the whole western media is up in arms. When the Israelis go and demolish houses of people and kill innocent women and children no one raises any voice. How many times have you raised voice against these injustices, yet every non muslim is quick to ride on the tail coats of the western media to satisfy their own anti muslim agenda. Think about it.