Re: When a non-muslim dies
how long are going to pretend we can actually read bushra's posts? :s
Re: When a non-muslim dies
how long are going to pretend we can actually read bushra's posts? :s
**Narrated Ibn 'Umar: When 'Abdullah bin Ubai (the chief of hypocrites) died, his son came to the Prophet and said, "O Allah's Apostle! Please give me your shirt to shroud him in it, offer his funeral prayer and ask for Allah's forgiveness for him." So Allah's Apostle (p.b.u.h) gave his shirt to him and said, "Inform me (When the funeral is ready) so that I may offer the funeral prayer." So, he informed him and when the Prophet intended to offer the funeral prayer, 'Umar took hold of his hand and said, "Has Allah not forbidden you to offer the funeral prayer for the hypocrites? **The Prophet said, "I have been given the choice for Allah says: '(It does not avail) Whether you (O Muhammad) ask forgiveness for them (hypocrites), or do not ask for forgiveness for them. Even though you ask for their forgiveness seventy times, Allah will not forgive them. (9.80)"** So the Prophet offered the funeral prayer and on that the revelation came: "And never (O Muhammad) pray (funeral prayer) for any of them (i.e. hypocrites) that dies." (9. 84)
(bukhari)
jub ik munaafiq jo bazahir muslman banta tha us k ley dua kernay per itnee sakhtee say nabi ko mana ker diya gaya to Kuffar kay haq main kia muamla ho ga ?Aap ya main ye assume kerny waley kaun hotey hain ke Munafiq ke liey yeh hukam hai tu non muslim ke liey bhi yehi???? Munafqeen ko tu ham saza de hi nahi rahy SHAK ka FAIDA/DEFENSE de ker. Allah ne bhi Isaii, yahoodi nahi Munafiq kah ais hadees ke mutabiq
Main ney hadess nahi pochi Aiyat pochi hai or yehi kaha hai ke kahan se hadees aiyat Muslims kin Munafqeen ko saza de rahy hain
Main ney hadess nahi pochi Aiyat pochi hai or yehi kaha hai ke kahan se hadees aiyat
or shuru main dekhu Munafiq ki baat ki hai ju muslim banta hai.
Main tu yehi keh rahi hon ke Quraan ke muqabley main hadess la ker rakh daity hain ju sarasar Quran ke manni badlney ky mutradif hai. Bukhari sahab ka bhi main ne suna hai key kain cheezain ju woh as a buzurg samjhty they key Umat ya bilkhusoos orton ke liey sahih hain ot Huzur ka naam le ker biyan kero tu log mainain gey woh bhi hadees keh ker shamil ker dain hamara masla ye hai key bas ankhain bad ker key taqleed kerni hai.
Main hameysh ayeh kehti hon ke MUnafiq ghyrmuslimon se ziada khatrnaak hain or on ki Namz-e-janaza tu koi bhi nahi perh raha on ki.
Baqi Baat se baat nikal rahi hain kHawteen ke masjaid main anny jany per koi pabandi na thi Huzur ke zamany main aj kal sunna hai khana kabb main dakhly per pabandi lagney wali hai.
Ab kal ye bhi hadees hu jaey gi Islam k ahisa ban jaey ga
how long are going to pretend we can actually read bushra's posts? :s
Na prhu majboor nahi kiya:D Ju perh rahy hain khamkhwa jawab de rahy hain:p
**DUA **hee k ley to hadees bayan kee hay ...jub zindgee main kissi kaafir ko Assalamu aliykum ki dua dainay ki ijazat nahi to mernay kay baad jub k us ka kuffar per merna muhaqiq hay to kisi bhi qisam ki dua kaysay jaaiz ho saktee hai ?
This is my point baqion ne* Ilhami Kitabon main Tehreef ker li Muslims ne Hadees bana bana ker Quran se aik bilkul alag tashreeh ker dali* quraan nahi badal saky maani badal diey.
I am saying again and again Read the aiyat then bring Aiyat in answer not hadees I all ready said Sunat sunat ker key Islam k akabara ker diya tumharey char Imamon ne. Islam itn amushkil nahi tha jitna in charon ne ban adiya san kerny ki aar main. Baqi I am out of this thread now.
well said:D
Sharabi aiyat ju main ny upload ki hain perhu Amano mery liey Allah per iman lana hai or is main naik amaalka zikar hai teen mazahib ka naam le ker kaha giya hai. Ju aiyat aap ne tarjuma ki hain on main “Disbelievers” ka zikar hai ju Muslim bhi hu sakty hain magar ham ne Yhodio or Isiaon ki trha Hamare Nabi roey “Umati” Umatti ki ahadees perh.bana ker bilkul isiaon wala rawaiya ikhtiyar ker liya ke Isa kul insaniyat ke liey soli cherh giy:smack: isi trha Huzur ne dua mangi ab assi bakhshy giey ju merzi kero. Bas aap ju merzi kero dojian non roko ohnan no sahih janat da rasta wikhao.
Kiya Isia , Yahodi and Saabai kisi aiyat main istymal howa??? jab ye kaha Allah ne ke unhin muaaf nahi keron ga main:aq:
Re: When a non-muslim dies
Maulvi Bushra...are you trying to become the 5th imam?
Your rejection of Ahadith will take you outside the pale of Islam, in case you dont know.
Inspite of this warning, if you continue to insist you shall be a murtad...and no "resting in peace" for you if you die in this state .
Lady! Do you mind typing that in english?
Dekhiye Mohtarma,
Non-Muslim chahe apni zindagi me kitne bhi acche kaam kar le. Kitne hi perhez se apni zindagi guzar le, wo sab kuch kar le jo ALLAH ko pasand hai, magar woh ALLAH ki zaat se agar shirk karega to woh dozakh me jayega. Its final.
Aur agar koi muslim jo shirk na karta ho, woh kitne hi badkari se apni zindagi guzare, woh sare kaam kare jo ALLAH ne mana kiye hain ( siva shirk ke) magar phir bhi uske chances honge ki ALLAH usko maaf kar de kyonki woh baki gunaho ke iwaz shirk ko ziadah na pasand karta hai.
Its so simple.
If that's so simple, can u please come up with an authentic statement. "cos i am curious. Have got some people on my hit list. But then, I'm always going to heaven isn't it? 'cos why? yes exactly, i just believed and DID NOTHING else. Or sorry, did every other thing the opposite. Yeah?
Islam definitely does not refrain us from offering condolence(expressing sympathy) with loved ones of a deceased non-muslim, as for the question of being able to offer any prayers for them or not, from the perspective of a non-muslim according to what they believe in, a muslim offering prayers or not will not have any influence in the here-after of the departed..., so if it doesn't matter to them why should it concern the muslims to debate whether it is allowed or not...
Maulvi Bushra...are you trying to become the 5th imam?
Your rejection of Ahadith will take you outside the pale of Islam, in case you dont know.
Inspite of this warning, if you continue to insist you shall be a murtad...and no "resting in peace" for you if you die in this state .
dont you think these are too harsh words.??? But one thing for **Bushra **that Ahadith are as effective as Quran. Becauze its our believe that Hazrat Muhammad never say any word byoned Quran. (if i am wrong May Allah forgive me). yes if you dont know anything then i think its better that leave that matter by saying that sorry i dont know instead to argue on that.
May be we are not suppose to say this?
You are right.
JazakAllah ![]()
Okay, this is the first time that I have heard that saying Asalaam-u-alekum to a non-muslim is not allowed. Unless I am misreading this transliterated Urdu, I just plain ain't never heard of that. Even Christian Pakistanis say Asalaam-u-alekum to each other.
Re: When a non-muslim dies
i sorry to say app Sharayee dalaail kay asool or qawaaid say bilkul nawaqif hain
dosree bat yeh hadees kay anadar woh ayat mojood hay agar app perhnay or samjhnay ki koshish kerteen …: )
baaqee jub app imam bukhari jaysay muhad’dis or Aima karaam jaisai mujhtahden ko kissi khataay main nahi la raheen
to main na cheez app ki ilmee qabliyat kay agay kia cheez hoon
Assalamu alikum
dont you think these are too harsh words.???
It is part of our creed and belief that ahadith are revelations inspired by Allah. Ahadith are explanations of the verses of the Quran. Most of the ritual acts of ibadah like the Hajj can only be understood from the Ahadith.
He who discards the ahadith and rejects them wholly and blames them for corruption of the Deen and something by which the true meaning....leaves the fold of Islam just like the one who rejects the Quran as the Book of Allah.
Maulvi Bushra...are you trying to become the 5th imam?
Your rejection of Ahadith will take you outside the pale of Islam, in case you dont know.
Inspite of this warning, if you continue to insist you shall be a murtad...and no "resting in peace" for you if you die in this state .
^^I have a hadith-e-qudsi for you. Write it on a post-it and stick it to your monitor.
[quote]
Hadith Qudsi 31:
On the authority of Jundub (may Allah be pleased with him), who said that the Messenger of Allah (PBUH) related:
A man said: By Allah, Allah will not forgive So-and-so. At this Allah the Almighty said: Who is he who swears by Me that I will not forgive So-and-so? Verily I have forgiven So-and-so and have nullified your [own good] deeds (1) (or as he said [it]).
(1) A similar Hadith, which is given by Abu Dawud, indicates that the person referred to was a goldly man whose previous good deeds were brought to nought through presuming to declare that Allah would not forgive someone's bad deeds.
It was related by Muslim.
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Re: When a non-muslim dies
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so how are muslims supposed to greet non-muslims? you can’t say salam, and if you greet them in their way, it is imitating the kuffar. is there any way for the religious muslim to be civil around non-muslims and not burn in hell? ![]()
no there is.
i mean, if you say Assalam-o-Alikum to me than i can also send ALLAH SWT’s blessings on u by saying Walikum Salam.
and if you only say Salam, then i will also say Salam to you.
of if you say hi, hello then same goes for me.
ps. pata nahi loug kahan kahan say Islam utha latay hain. cuz keeping such an outcasted behavior was not even part of Prophet Muhammd’s (PBUH) sunnah. He (PBUH) taught us to talk nicely with non-muslims. and that is how he able to bring the entire arabia out of Jahalia.
Re: When a non-muslim dies
zobia, are you saying PG is lying about your religion? :-O
so why is it that no one's really bothered when muslims say such crap about their religion? someone even gave it props and jazaks.