When a non-muslim dies

Re: When a non-muslim dies

how long are going to pretend we can actually read bushra's posts? :s

Main ney hadess nahi pochi Aiyat pochi hai or yehi kaha hai ke kahan se hadees aiyat Muslims kin Munafqeen ko saza de rahy hain
Main ney hadess nahi pochi Aiyat pochi hai or yehi kaha hai ke kahan se hadees aiyat
or shuru main dekhu Munafiq ki baat ki hai ju muslim banta hai.
Main tu yehi keh rahi hon ke Quraan ke muqabley main hadess la ker rakh daity hain ju sarasar Quran ke manni badlney ky mutradif hai. Bukhari sahab ka bhi main ne suna hai key kain cheezain ju woh as a buzurg samjhty they key Umat ya bilkhusoos orton ke liey sahih hain ot Huzur ka naam le ker biyan kero tu log mainain gey woh bhi hadees keh ker shamil ker dain hamara masla ye hai key bas ankhain bad ker key taqleed kerni hai.
Main hameysh ayeh kehti hon ke MUnafiq ghyrmuslimon se ziada khatrnaak hain or on ki Namz-e-janaza tu koi bhi nahi perh raha on ki.
Baqi Baat se baat nikal rahi hain kHawteen ke masjaid main anny jany per koi pabandi na thi Huzur ke zamany main aj kal sunna hai khana kabb main dakhly per pabandi lagney wali hai.
Ab kal ye bhi hadees hu jaey gi Islam k ahisa ban jaey ga

Na prhu majboor nahi kiya:D Ju perh rahy hain khamkhwa jawab de rahy hain:p

This is my point baqion ne* Ilhami Kitabon main Tehreef ker li Muslims ne Hadees bana bana ker Quran se aik bilkul alag tashreeh ker dali* quraan nahi badal saky maani badal diey.
I am saying again and again Read the aiyat then bring Aiyat in answer not hadees I all ready said Sunat sunat ker key Islam k akabara ker diya tumharey char Imamon ne. Islam itn amushkil nahi tha jitna in charon ne ban adiya san kerny ki aar main. Baqi I am out of this thread now.

:hehe: well said:D

Sharabi aiyat ju main ny upload ki hain perhu Amano mery liey Allah per iman lana hai or is main naik amaalka zikar hai teen mazahib ka naam le ker kaha giya hai. Ju aiyat aap ne tarjuma ki hain on main “Disbelievers” ka zikar hai ju Muslim bhi hu sakty hain magar ham ne Yhodio or Isiaon ki trha Hamare Nabi roey “Umati” Umatti ki ahadees perh.bana ker bilkul isiaon wala rawaiya ikhtiyar ker liya ke Isa kul insaniyat ke liey soli cherh giy:smack: isi trha Huzur ne dua mangi ab assi bakhshy giey ju merzi kero. Bas aap ju merzi kero dojian non roko ohnan no sahih janat da rasta wikhao.
Kiya Isia , Yahodi and Saabai kisi aiyat main istymal howa??? jab ye kaha Allah ne ke unhin muaaf nahi keron ga main:aq:

Re: When a non-muslim dies

Maulvi Bushra...are you trying to become the 5th imam?

Your rejection of Ahadith will take you outside the pale of Islam, in case you dont know.

Inspite of this warning, if you continue to insist you shall be a murtad...and no "resting in peace" for you if you die in this state .

Lady! Do you mind typing that in english?

If that's so simple, can u please come up with an authentic statement. "cos i am curious. Have got some people on my hit list. But then, I'm always going to heaven isn't it? 'cos why? yes exactly, i just believed and DID NOTHING else. Or sorry, did every other thing the opposite. Yeah?

Islam definitely does not refrain us from offering condolence(expressing sympathy) with loved ones of a deceased non-muslim, as for the question of being able to offer any prayers for them or not, from the perspective of a non-muslim according to what they believe in, a muslim offering prayers or not will not have any influence in the here-after of the departed..., so if it doesn't matter to them why should it concern the muslims to debate whether it is allowed or not...

dont you think these are too harsh words.??? But one thing for **Bushra **that Ahadith are as effective as Quran. Becauze its our believe that Hazrat Muhammad never say any word byoned Quran. (if i am wrong May Allah forgive me). yes if you dont know anything then i think its better that leave that matter by saying that sorry i dont know instead to argue on that.

You are right.

JazakAllah :flower1:

Okay, this is the first time that I have heard that saying Asalaam-u-alekum to a non-muslim is not allowed. Unless I am misreading this transliterated Urdu, I just plain ain't never heard of that. Even Christian Pakistanis say Asalaam-u-alekum to each other.

Re: When a non-muslim dies

i sorry to say app Sharayee dalaail kay asool or qawaaid say bilkul nawaqif hain

dosree bat yeh hadees kay anadar woh ayat mojood hay agar app perhnay or samjhnay ki koshish kerteen …: )

baaqee jub app imam bukhari jaysay muhad’dis or Aima karaam jaisai mujhtahden ko kissi khataay main nahi la raheen

to main na cheez app ki ilmee qabliyat kay agay kia cheez hoon

Assalamu alikum

It is part of our creed and belief that ahadith are revelations inspired by Allah. Ahadith are explanations of the verses of the Quran. Most of the ritual acts of ibadah like the Hajj can only be understood from the Ahadith.

He who discards the ahadith and rejects them wholly and blames them for corruption of the Deen and something by which the true meaning....leaves the fold of Islam just like the one who rejects the Quran as the Book of Allah.

^^I have a hadith-e-qudsi for you. Write it on a post-it and stick it to your monitor.

[quote]
Hadith Qudsi 31:
On the authority of Jundub (may Allah be pleased with him), who said that the Messenger of Allah (PBUH) related:
A man said: By Allah, Allah will not forgive So-and-so. At this Allah the Almighty said: Who is he who swears by Me that I will not forgive So-and-so? Verily I have forgiven So-and-so and have nullified your [own good] deeds (1) (or as he said [it]).

(1) A similar Hadith, which is given by Abu Dawud, indicates that the person referred to was a goldly man whose previous good deeds were brought to nought through presuming to declare that Allah would not forgive someone's bad deeds.

It was related by Muslim.
[/quote]

Re: When a non-muslim dies

This thread is still in AV :hmmm:

so how are muslims supposed to greet non-muslims? you can’t say salam, and if you greet them in their way, it is imitating the kuffar. is there any way for the religious muslim to be civil around non-muslims and not burn in hell? :confused:

no there is.

i mean, if you say Assalam-o-Alikum to me than i can also send ALLAH SWT’s blessings on u by saying Walikum Salam.

and if you only say Salam, then i will also say Salam to you.

of if you say hi, hello then same goes for me.

ps. pata nahi loug kahan kahan say Islam utha latay hain. cuz keeping such an outcasted behavior was not even part of Prophet Muhammd’s (PBUH) sunnah. He (PBUH) taught us to talk nicely with non-muslims. and that is how he able to bring the entire arabia out of Jahalia.

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zobia, are you saying PG is lying about your religion? :-O

so why is it that no one's really bothered when muslims say such crap about their religion? someone even gave it props and jazaks.