Don't you forget when Prophet Mohammad (p.b.u.h.) prayed for Hazrat abu Talib for 70 times and ALLAH forbid him not to pray anymore because he didn't beliee in one ALLAH. I think as far as I remember this thing is true that Hazrat AB Talib never became muslim.
Quran ki kis ayait main hai yeh??? ke Allah ne huzoor ko mana kiya?
No UZ, I am saying hat Azaab-e-qabar (which is different from Azaab-e-akhirat) could be pardoned
Azab-e-qabar ka zikar kis aiat main hai?? I never ever seen Azab-e-qabar Aksar qisey suney hain ke qabar ke sirhaney saiyadar darakhat laga do tu qabar ke murdey ko thandi hawa milti hai. Quraan main in ka koi zikar nahi bas log kehty hain tu mujhy khiyal aiya agr aisi koi ayata hain tu daikhun:)
Who said that (or according to ur knowledge) we can’t just pray for anyone… ? Muslims or non-Muslims combined? Would like to know.
Aj kal yar log tu yeh keh rehy hain there is no such thing as GOD! so if there is GOD why each religion is not accepting other religion. So waqat hai ke kam as kam Allah, God ko manney waly common chezain tlash keri ikhtilafat ke bajay.
Baqi History ki baat kerin tu jis history ki kitabon ki wajah se 336 tareeqy se namaz perh rahy hain duniya ke muslman koi rafa yadeen, ki is ke bagheyr , Iranion ne ti apni purani atrish presti se milta julta namza ka tareqa nikal liya tu bas Quraan ko apni samjh se samjhu history ki bajaey. That’s it
Aik bar aik sahab ujh se is bat per ulajh pery ky Nahi ji Hazrat Isa alih-eslam, Musa alihisalam or Noh ki muhubat ki zarorat nahi bas Huzur Muhammad salialaalihewasalm ki muhubat honi chahey woh mehbob-ekhuda hain. Abbey aqal ke andhey Quraan keh raha hai tamam nabion per iman lao bas Muhammad Allah ke akhri nabi hain magar kaon smajhaey kisi ko mera tu aqeda hai ke ju muslman ghalt kam kerty hain os se naik kam kerny wala Isai ya yhodi behter hai
So you are saying is there any chance that some non muslims might get chance to go in Jannah on the day of judgment. PS.I am saying is that as hadees I have mentioned about Hazrat Mohammad (p.b.u.h.) and Hazrat Abu Talib we cannot say that.
Dekhiye Mohtarma,
Non-Muslim chahe apni zindagi me kitne bhi acche kaam kar le. Kitne hi perhez se apni zindagi guzar le, wo sab kuch kar le jo ALLAH ko pasand hai, magar woh ALLAH ki zaat se agar shirk karega to woh dozakh me jayega. Its final.
Aur agar koi muslim jo shirk na karta ho, woh kitne hi badkari se apni zindagi guzare, woh sare kaam kare jo ALLAH ne mana kiye hain ( siva shirk ke) magar phir bhi uske chances honge ki ALLAH usko maaf kar de kyonki woh baki gunaho ke iwaz shirk ko ziadah na pasand karta hai.
Its so simple.
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^ 
Yeah right
Khulla khao te nangay ee nahao
Jannat mein to jana hi hai. :halo:
LOL! 
In aiyat main saf saf kaha giya hai ke Isai, yahudi ya sabai ju bhi aik amal kery ga Janat main jaey ga Kiya is ke baad kisi behas ki gunjaish hai???
Ji Gunjayish bilkul hai!
The Christians and Jews which the Ayaah talks about, were those who came before Islam and believed in Allah without ascribing partners to Him....like Mary, Moses, Aaron etc. (peace be upon them all).
Once the Prophet (sas) came, it became mandatory on everyone who finds out about Islam, regardless of what religion he followed, to believe in Muhammad (sas) as the final messenger and accept Islam as his way of life. Failure to do so would result in disbelief.
The explanation of the ayaahs of the Quran can often be found in the Quran itself. And the ayaah that you posted is explained by this verse in Surah Baiyyinah:
*Lo! those who disbelieve, among the People of the Scripture and the idolaters, will abide in fire of hell. They are the worst of created beings. *098.006
This Ayah clearly states the final abode of those who disbelieve in any of the fundamental tenets of Islam, regardless of whether they call themselves Muslims, Jews, Christians of Buddhists.
Rest in Peace has nothing to do with Akhirat, it is referring to the time one has to spend in that qabar.
The time one has to spend in the grave IS the akhirah. It IS the Hereafter as we know Munkar and Nakir, who will come right after a person has been burried and covered with dust, and ask the three questions. He who answers the questions will rest in peace and he who doesn't will face the severe torture there onwards. And we know from authentic Ahadith, that only the believers will be able to answer those three questions.
Hence time spent in the grave i.e. the barzakh is part of the Hereafter.
I believe that we can wish some one maghfirat from azaab-e-qabar, regardless of his/her faith ..
I am not sure .. I think we can
Here are the ayaahs from Surah Tawbah stating clearly what we should do and what we shouldn't.
Ask forgiveness for them or do not ask forgiveness for them; even if you ask forgiveness for them seventy times, Allah will not forgive them; this is because they disbelieve in Allah and His Messenger, and Allah does not guide the transgressing people. 009.080
And never offer prayer for any one of them who dies and do not stand by his grave; surely they disbelieve in Allah and His Messenger and they shall die in transgression. 009.084
No UZ, I am saying hat Azaab-e-qabar (which is different from Azaab-e-akhirat) could be pardoned
there is no azaab-e-qabar. it does not logically make sense.
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Narrated Ibn 'Umar:
When 'Abdullah bin Ubai (the chief of hypocrites) died, his son came to the Prophet and said, “O Allah’s Apostle! Please give me your shirt to shroud him in it, offer his funeral prayer and ask for Allah’s forgiveness for him.” So Allah’s Apostle (p.b.u.h) gave his shirt to him and said, “Inform me (When the funeral is ready) so that I may offer the funeral prayer.” So, he informed him and when the Prophet intended to offer the funeral prayer, 'Umar took hold of his hand and said, “Has Allah not forbidden you to offer the funeral prayer for the hypocrites? The Prophet said, "I have been given the choice for Allah says: '(It does not avail) Whether you (O Muhammad) ask forgiveness for them (hypocrites), or do not ask for forgiveness for them. Even though you ask for their forgiveness seventy times, Allah will not forgive them. (9.80)” So the Prophet offered the funeral prayer and on that the revelation came: "And never (O Muhammad) pray (funeral prayer) for any of them (i.e. hypocrites) that dies." (9. 84)
(bukhari)
jub ik munaafiq jo bazahir muslman banta tha us k ley dua kernay per itnee sakhtee say nabi ko mana ker diya gaya to Kuffar kay haq main kia muamla ho ga ?
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No religion teaches people to differentiate themselves.Then why this attittude?These are the beliefs causing people to distance from Islam.
Such a great religion and it's advocacies are wrongly used by people.
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P_G .. thanks for sharing. Main srif Azaab-e-qabar kee bat kar rahaa thaa. Kiya hum kis ghair mulim ke azzab-e-qabar ko kum karnay kee du'a kar saktay hain ..
Aap ne jo hadees bayan kee hai, oos main to Akhirat ke azaab kee baat ho rahee hai
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I say shuker-alhamdulillah
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**DUA **hee k ley to hadees bayan kee hay …jub zindgee main kissi kaafir ko Assalamu aliykum ki dua dainay ki ijazat nahi to mernay kay baad jub k us ka kuffar per merna muhaqiq hay to kisi bhi qisam ki dua kaysay jaaiz ho saktee hai ?
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hmmm .. that is true .. thanks for sharing PG
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^ your hmmmmmmmmms shows that u have still some questions ?
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No I dont have any doubt that you are right... I am trying to ask you question just to pick your mind so I can learn more. Cant come up with a proper question ..
Dekhiye Mohtarma,
Non-Muslim chahe apni zindagi me kitne bhi acche kaam kar le. Kitne hi perhez se apni zindagi guzar le, wo sab kuch kar le jo ALLAH ko pasand hai, magar woh ALLAH ki zaat se agar shirk karega to woh dozakh me jayega. Its final.
Aur agar koi muslim jo shirk na karta ho, woh kitne hi **badkari se apni zindagi guzare, **woh sare kaam kare jo ALLAH ne mana kiye hain ( siva shirk ke) magar phir bhi uske chances honge ki ALLAH usko maaf kar de kyonki woh baki gunaho ke iwaz shirk ko ziadah na pasand karta hai.
Its so simple.
Badkari k arasta kholney ka kiya tareeqa hai wah! Allah ke ehkam na mano tu kaisey keh sakty hain Allah ko man rahy hain?Well ju PANJTAN PAAK ka naara lagatey hain Muslims Woh bhi khul akhula shirk hai naoz billah on ke khiyalat daikhu tu Isaion ke "Taslees" se mumaslat rakhty hain.Ya Allah ke bajaey Ya Ali kehna bhi shirk hi hai. Ya Rasol Allah kehny per tu bari pabndi hai:D
