Re: What’s your Opinion : Question by a Non-Muslim man about his recently converted w
ahahahahha:dixsi:
for once, the husband got ScreWeD by his WIFEYYYY!! 
:YES!:
Re: What's your Opinion : Question by a Non-Muslim man about his recently converted w
I think this has more to do with a man’s desire for a physically attractive partner than Islam… Same principle as him saying: “I don’t want my wife to get fat, that’d just tear me away from her”, etc.
Incidentally, a woman can shed her hijab when around her husband in the privacy of their own home!
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Old and New Testament laws are not as liberated for a woman than the Qur'an and Sunnah are. For this reason it is best that a woman does not subject herself to the harsher laws by marrying into a family of the older religions of the Book. In fact it so much so that it is not allowed for her.
Harsher than being a staff member for 4 concupiscent managers? I doubt this husband follows the archaic rules of the Old Testament. The "older religions" have progressed beyond the paternalistic manager/staff member relationships of ancient societies.
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There are other reasons for this too, such as population growth. It is ideal obviously to have many Muslims for the Muslims point of view. By **giving away our women **it will decrease the Muslim population, because populations are made by women not men. To explain what I mean here is that one man can sire most of his life, but can only do so provided there are enough women who are either not in menopause, or already in gestation, which sets them back by around 1 year. The more women in a community the faster the population grows.
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I thought men were managers, not slave owners. Managers don't *own *the staff members "to give away" So it is incumbent on Muslims procreating to increase their proportionate population? What an ethereal way to propagate a religion. It sounds as if women are a baby-making commodity for the loins and control of man.
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Any other reasons are with God and He Knows Best!
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Well then let's just leave it to that since it appears that trying to come up with reasons to make these "rules" make sense - don't make sense.
Re: What's your Opinion : Question by a Non-Muslim man about his recently converted w
Basically, Indopak, Islam is a Patriarchy ruled by Man.
The Man is the upholder of the law in the household. He gets 4 wives and sometimes also slave-mistress or concubines. The man's job is to bring home the bread as they speak. The woman may work to, under some conditions, and the husband isnt allowed to take her money.
The man is allowed to marry either a Jewess or a Christian. A woman is only allowed another Muslim.
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I should have been an Islam-therapist instead. I woulda made real money.
Easy solution. Explain to the wife that Islam requires each spouse to do whatever they can to look good for their spouse, and that Islam promotes chemistry in marriage. Therefore, when she’s around her husband, its okay to take the hijaab off and be the wild-thang that she and he are comfortable with behind closed doors. The hijaab is just for the rest of the world to see.
I don’t know why I bother. That poor man isn’t reading this forum.
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I didn't understand why the rule is different for Muslim women. She is only allowed to marry another Muslim man. Why this inequality. Shouldn't the same rules apply for both since both are human Muslims?
Explanation without just a bunch of quranic verses would be appreciated.
You asked this before and I've given you the answer.
(Indopak) Since all religions believe in the same one God and the word "Allah" is another name or avatar of that same one God, then why are non muslims supposed to convert to islam before marrying a muslim?
i never understood that...
(hareem01) Muslim men can marry pious Christian and Jew women who believe in One God and don't do idol worship and set partners unto Allah.
Muslim women can only marry muslim men, why? Because there are plenty of reasons but the most important one is that this is the command of Allah and his messenger(peace be upon him).
Now if you see logically, Christians and Jews don't respect our Prophet Muhammad(SAW), they even don't consider him a prophet and they call him a liar(Audhubillah), if a christian or jewish husband says something bad about Prophet Muhammad(SAW) in front of his muslim wife then his wife would become upset and angry with her husband as we muslims love Prophet Muhammad(SAW) the most in all human beings, more than our children and husband and parents.
Now if a christian or jewish woman's husband is a muslim, she'll never face this situation bcoz we muslims believe in all the prophets and we respect them equally.
Hope this answers your question.
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Now if you see logically, Christians and Jews don't respect our Prophet Muhammad(SAW), they even don't consider him a prophet and they call him a liar(Audhubillah), if a christian or jewish husband says something bad about Prophet Muhammad(SAW) in front of his muslim wife then his wife would become upset and angry with her husband as we muslims love Prophet Muhammad(SAW) the most in all human beings, more than our children and husband and parents.
So the husband won't be upset and angry with his wife disrespting the prophet, but the wife would be? Why is ok for men to face the situation and not women? What's logical about that?
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Now if a christian or jewish woman's husband is a muslim, she'll never face this situation bcoz we muslims believe in all the prophets and we respect them equally.
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So you love all prophets more than your children, husband and parents?
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So the husband won't be upset and angry with his wife disrespting the prophet, but the wife would be? Why is ok for men to face the situation and not women? What's logical about that?
Because women are delicate and fragile unlike men.
So you love all prophets more than your children, husband and parents?
Yes.
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Maybe you're delicate and fragile. I'm made of hard-core steel.
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Ancient cultures considered women too delicate and fragile to run a household, lead men in prayers or otherwise be perceived to be in charge of men. Those rules were for a certain place and time. Today it is obvious that man is not any stronger or more stable than woman. If we are going to stereotype, let's be honest - men are the hot heads who make irrational decisions based on emotions and testosterone.
Re: What's your Opinion : Question by a Non-Muslim man about his recently converted w
Maybe you're delicate and fragile. I'm made of hard-core steel.
like all over?
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Maybe you're delicate and fragile. I'm made of hard-core steel.
Hope you find your magnet man soon.
Ancient cultures considered women too delicate and fragile to run a household, lead men in prayers or otherwise be perceived to be in charge of men. Those rules were for a certain place and time.** Today it is obvious that man is not any stronger or more stable than woman.** If we are going to stereotype, let's be honest - men are the hot heads who make irrational decisions based on emotions and testosterone.
Oh yes, they're making women made out of hard core steel these days.
The psyche of men and women is different, their emotions, behaviour, reactions etc. You can deny this as well if you want to but before that do some research and you'll find out that I'm right.
And, if a muslim woman hears from her non muslim husband or his family members bad things about a Prophet(AS) or the Prophets(AS), she will be angry and upset, if a muslim man hears anything bad about the Prophet(SAW) he will be upset and might be angry but he will politely tell her off as he is not allowed to beat her up.
Also a non muslim woman won't have to face this situation(where her muslim husband or his family can insult or deny the Prophets) but a muslim woman with a non muslim husband is obvious to face this situation.
Another thing, kuffar(non believers) men cannot have authority over muslim women, thats another reason.
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Their emotions, behavior, etc might be different, but that doesn't mean its some inherent difference. Some might be genetic, others might be environmentally triggered. Again, you offer miseducation for women around the globe reading your views. You insist on convincing women that they're weak. If you accomplish this, yes, they will be weak. Not because its inherent in them, but because YOU convinced them that weakness for them SHOULD be normal.
Shame on you, hareem.
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Their emotions, behavior, etc might be different, but that doesn't mean its some inherent difference. Some might be genetic, others might be environmentally triggered. Again, you offer miseducation for women around the globe reading your views. You insist on convincing women that they're weak. If you accomplish this, yes, they will be weak. Not because its inherent in them, but because YOU convinced them that weakness for them SHOULD be normal.
Shame on you, hareem.
There is a huge difference between weak and delicate, there are some men who are weak and there are some women who aren't, example: some men faints when they see a baby being born.
You have used word "weak" not me....so who's misinforming and miseducating women? And who's putting her words in my mouth?
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Yes, there is statistcal evidence that men and women on average have different reactions and behavior based on emotions and genetic make-up. But a lot of it has to do with the social environement, customs and culture.
I have done my research and I stand by my statement that men tend to make more hot-headed, irrational decisions based on emotions and testosterone with only regard to his status and situation. It is also widely accepted that men tend to lecture and act alone while women like to listen and collaborate - build concensus. Men tend to blame others and put more weight on how decisions will affect his environment while women are more concerned with the team. Men tend to be surprised at setbacks while women see them coming and plan for them.
Male dominance is a cultural phenomena that usually originates from a harsh or violent physical environment - agriculture, migration, husbandry, desert-dwelling, war, etc - where providing the basic necessities is physically demanding. That was the case in 7th century Arabia and people now carry these male-dominated rules as if they are God ordained for any society in any time.
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Yes, there is statistcal evidence that men and women on average have different reactions and behavior based on emotions and genetic make-up. But a lot of it has to do with the social environement, customs and culture.
I have done my research and I stand by my statement that men tend to make more hot-headed, irrational decisions based on emotions and testosterone with only regard to his status and situation. It is also widely accepted that men tend to lecture and act alone while women like to listen and collaborate - build concensus. Men tend to blame others and put more weight on how decisions will affect his environment while women are more concerned with the team. Men tend to be surprised at setbacks while women see them coming and plan for them.
Male dominance is a cultural phenomena that usually originates from a harsh or violent physical environment - agriculture, migration, husbandry, desert-dwelling, war, etc - where providing the basic necessities is physically demanding. That was the case in 7th century Arabia and people now carry these male-dominated rules as if they are God ordained for any society in any time.
What? Didn't you know?? Men should dominate women. Hareem indicates it as such, it must be true!
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There is a huge difference between weak and delicate,
Nice, not every one understands that though.
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Re: What's your Opinion : Question by a Non-Muslim man about his recently converted w
Yes, there is statistcal evidence that men and women on average have different reactions and behavior based on emotions and genetic make-up. But a lot of it has to do with the social environement, customs and culture.
I have done my research and I stand by my statement that men tend to make more hot-headed, irrational decisions based on emotions and testosterone with only regard to his status and situation. It is also widely accepted that men tend to lecture and act alone while women like to listen and collaborate - build concensus. Men tend to blame others and put more weight on how decisions will affect his environment while women are more concerned with the team. Men tend to be surprised at setbacks while women see them coming and plan for them.
Male dominance is a cultural phenomena that usually originates from a harsh or violent physical environment - agriculture, migration, husbandry, desert-dwelling, war, etc - where providing the basic necessities is physically demanding. That was the case in 7th century Arabia and people now carry these male-dominated rules as if they are God ordained for any society in any time.
Peace Seminole
It is interesting how you assimilate old cultures to male dominated ones and present times seems to be the reverse. How wrong can you be. The fact that there is such a vehement reaction in women to counter male dominated societies this day and age is more male-dominated than ever.
I was in my teens and saw this vibrant colourful band on TV cheesy to bedad and who were they .... The Spice Girls ... What did they represent? Girl Power! Wow! How did they do it? They wore clothes that left them semi-naked and did crappy punches in the air during their video shoots. What a show for the budding womaniser don't you think?
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I'm made of hard-core steel.
Peace Sister
Just curious .... who do you owe the tempering of your hard-core to .... a woman or a man?
Quite clearly in your own words environment makes people who they are ... so what was your environment that made you like steel? Was it a good environment? Do you recommend it for other women too?