i mean whenever i gave someone a dua (unintentionally), there are many who dont even bother to say thank you. whereas expecting them to give me dua in return is out of the question.
what makes them think that they deserve my duas!
not only this, but people in pakistan disrespect fakeer as if owning the money is a big thing. if they dont want to give those fakeer any of their money its okay, but why they disrespect them.
they dont even think that those people might be closer to ALLAH SWT then they themselves!
what makes them think that being rich or being brainier (which leaded them towards good education) actually is some quality they built themselves?
1. When you do a dua for someone why are you expecting something in return? Remember that old saying "naiki kar darya mein daal".
2. Have you actually seen the beggars there in Pakistan? I once gave this invalid beggar in his little beggar-mobile a few rupees and walked on and stopped at the window of this watch shop, 2 mnt later i had like 5-6 beggars, most with nothing wrong with them behind me asking for money. I almost had to break into a run to get away from them.
i mean whenever i gave someone a dua (unintentionally), there are many who dont even bother to say thank you. whereas expecting them to give me dua in return is out of the question.
what makes them think that they deserve my duas!
not only this, but people in pakistan disrespect fakeer as if owning the money is a big thing. if they dont want to give those fakeer any of their money its okay, but why they disrespect them.
they dont even think that those people might be closer to ALLAH SWT then they themselves!
what makes them think that being rich or being brainier (which leaded them towards good education) actually is some quality they built themselves?
I agree. I think it's a menace on a bigger scale than just limited to 'desis' as you say. It's the same way everywhere. I mean look at bums here, people often think of them as lowly. Sometimes for right reasons, but still we have given rise to this stereotype within ourselves that makes us distinguish who we think is worthy and/or who isn't. We go as far as to convincing ourselves and giving justificaitons for our attitude by saying something like, 'Oh he/she should've studied when he could so he/she wouldn't be at this stage today'.
I totally oppose this thinking. I think if you're unable to help someone, just apologize in a humble manner, ask for Allah's forgiveness and get on with it. You just simply don't know how that person got to where he/she is. So respect for all, hate for none should always be the rule of the thumb but it's not.
Now for the first part of your query, Duas. Again, it's wrong to feel so 'deserving' of receiving the duaas that you just don't thank someone in return. But not all are like that. Most people i have come across or know, do show gratitude.
May Allah guide us all towards the right path, give us the ability to correct our behaviors and acts, and live and act in ways that are more pleasing to him.
1. When you do a dua for someone why are you expecting something in return? Remember that old saying "naiki kar darya mein daal".
2. Have you actually seen the beggars there in Pakistan? I once gave this invalid beggar in his little beggar-mobile a few rupees and walked on and stopped at the window of this watch shop, 2 mnt later i had like 5-6 beggars, most with nothing wrong with them behind me asking for money. I almost had to break into a run to get away from them.
y...you dont say wsalam in returns of AOA... :bailan
..its a collaberative effort!
yeh kia kisi nay kuch kaha....and the person receiving it, is acting as if he didnt even bother to see, hear or anything...i mean do i give my precious dua to some "dewaar" (walls)...."HELLO! they are intangible, but they TRAVEL. THEY WORTH A LOT!"
-there is a difference ditween beggar and fakeer! but i cant explain you this phenomenon.
y...you dont say wsalam in returns of AOA... :bailan
..its a collaberative effort!
yeh kia kisi nay kuch kaha....and the person receiving it, is acting as if he didnt even bother to see, hear or anything...i mean do i give my precious dua to some "dewaar" (walls)...."HELLO! they are intangible, but they TRAVEL. THEY WORTH A LOT!"
-there is a difference ditween beggar and fakeer! but i cant explain you this phenomenon.
When I give you dua you don't need to know/hear it!
When you say salaam in a room just one person has to answer :) (Unless its a PM'd salaam :p)
t- lets keep the west on a side for a while. (i dont live any ghetto area, so i just had experienced them once and they actually scare the hell out of me :)…so instead of doing anything…i actually )
but its about us…its like you giving someone gift and you receive nothing
everywhere in teh world people keep track of the gift they get (he/she gave me this, spent this much money. and now i also gonna give him/her the same amount gift)
Because duaas aren't meant to be 'traded'. When you feel someone needs your dua you give it. But you shouldn't expect anything in return for it. If you get a dua in return, great. Alhamdu-Lillah. Otherwise be content. The whole purpose of the notion is that you make yourself humble, w/out expecting others to be likewise. When they want to be, if they want to be, they will be.
Besides, you don't know that person is thankful or gives you dua in return. Some people are more withdrawn and don't show what they feel. Maybe people dua for you more than you can ever imagine, yet they don't show it....can you really tell someone isn't praying for you simply because they don't do it superficially?
Because duaas aren't meant to be 'traded'. When you feel someone needs your dua you give it. But you shouldn't expect anything in return for it. If you get a dua in return, great. Alhamdu-Lillah. Otherwise be content. The whole purpose of the notion is that you (1) make yourself humble, w/out expecting others to be likewise. When they want to be, if they want to be, they will be.
Besides, you don't know that person is thankful or gives you dua in return. (2) Some people are more withdrawn and don't show what they feel. Maybe people dua for you more than you can ever imagine, yet they don't show it....can you really tell someone isn't praying for you simply because they don't do it superficially?
That should be the goal
Has nothing to do with being withdrawn, but to do with "neeyat" and not showbazzi.
that is the first time i am hearing this. is it possible for you to direct me to any authentic source relating this thing.
well i think you put it inversely. it like when person enters the room, he dont have to say salam to everyone, one by one. he may just say to every one. whereas in return everyone send blessings to that person. (this is what i know and this is what i see)
ps. you even have to say salam when you first enters your empty house. (since you leave it empty upon trusting ALLAH SWT…so now angles are there, so you have to say your salam to them)
sameenji, now according to the zob-law, u have to reciprocate :)
nope...she requested me :)
so she is morally bound to say JAK, and then thanking ALLAH SWT for giving me courage to make a dua, and then thanks to me, and then again making a dua of herself to ALLAH SWT to actually approve my dua :)
so she is morally bound to say JAK, and then thanking ALLAH SWT for giving me courage to make a dua, and then thanks to me, and then again making a dua of herself to ALLAH SWT to actually approve my dua :)
i was warned for such things when i last visited. looool sounds funny picturing how u said it.
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that is the first time i am hearing this. is it possible for you to direct me to any authentic source relating this thing.