What's going on in Canada? Harper OUT, Liberals IN

[aaliyahkhan1]

Re: What’s going on in Canada?

Harper is using scare tactics to win his elections…am not voting for him…I actually don’t know who to vote for…

[Ajju]

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@Captain_Obvious

She challenged their decision, which the courts also found unconstitutional. I don’t see why it’s hypocritical. The women who wear it do remove it for the second or two needed to identify them.

The Canadian justice ruled in her favor because of her claim that Burqa is her religious obligation. In reality Burqa is not compulsory in Islam and she claims to follow Islam. Hence, here claim is invalid and should have been denied but the court perhaps is not knowledgeable enough about Islam. This is like the case of the Pakistani cab driver in Missouri that sued to wear Shalwar Qameez instead of the company’s uniform because wearing Shalwar Qameez was his religious obligation. He won his suit too but clearly his claim was invalid too.

[Tahurra]

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I always find it strange if a woman uncover her head or her face , its her right to do so, subhanAllah what if she feels more comfortable in covering her face tu yeh zabardast hogyi? Wallahul musta’an…i personally feel secure Alhamdulilah by covering my face rather than uncover, but nobody is forcing me to cover face, its my own level of comfort. Its my choice like other has choice of uncovering themselves.
None can force you at least in this matter. This is the matter of security!!

may Allah help us all ameen

[Royal_Gala]

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[quote=“LP, post:1137, topic:338920”]

Abaya is compulsory. Not hijab or naqab/QUOTE
hayee-O-rabba

Where was this Saudia Arabia? when I was born, And my poor dad was harassed by the police to ask his little child girls not to wear pants under the abaya?

[anya]

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@Ajju

The Canadian justice ruled in her favor because of her claim that Burqa is her religious obligation. In reality Burqa is not compulsory in Islam and she claims to follow Islam. Hence, here claim is invalid and should have been denied but the court perhaps is not knowledgeable enough about Islam. This is like the case of the Pakistani cab driver in Missouri that sued to wear Shalwar Qameez instead of the company’s uniform because wearing Shalwar Qameez was his religious obligation. He won his suit too but clearly his claim was invalid too.

Agree

[SID_NY]

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@Royal_Gala

@LP

Abaya is compulsory. Not hijab or naqab

hayee-O-rabba

Where was this Saudia Arabia? when I was born, And my poor dad was harassed by the police to ask his little child girls not to wear pants under the abaya?

How old were u or whoever they were pointing to?

[LP]

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@Royal_Gala

@LP

Abaya is compulsory. Not hijab or naqab

hayee-O-rabba

Where was this Saudia Arabia? when I was born, And my poor dad was harassed by the police to ask his little child girls not to wear pants under the abaya?

How long ago was that?

[Royal_Gala]

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I was with my dad in a bazar, my other siblings weren’t with us. I was 10. This was 1990, and we lived in Riyadh. I was wearing an abaya/hijab, because our school required us too, and for girls grade 7 and up we were required to niqab as well coming in or outside the school.

Khair back to the bazar outing …

The police (mutawwaas) specifically stopped my dad and lectured him and kept pointing at me, They tried to take him away a bit further to speak to him alone, but he wouldn’t let go of my hand, I still remember his grip tightly on my palm, him shaking with anger or being scared, probably both.

I remember him being so furious after this, because by 94 we had left the country.

@LP I want you to understand this isn’t an attack on a county/laws, but the government’s condescending demeanour is real and most of us pakistanis/south asians have experienced it.

[LP]

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@Royal_Gala

I was with my dad in a bazar, my other siblings weren’t with us. I was 10. This was 1990, and we lived in Riyadh. I was wearing an abaya/hijab, because our school required us too, and for girls grade 7 and up we were required to niqab as well coming in or outside the school.

Khair back to the bazar outing …

The police (mutawwaas) specifically stopped my dad and lectured him and kept pointing at me, They tried to take him away a bit further to speak to him alone, but he wouldn’t let go of my hand, I still remember his grip tightly on my palm, him shaking with anger or being scared, probably both.

I remember him being so furious after this, because by 94 we had left the country.

@LP I want you to understand this isn’t an attack on a county/laws, but the government’s condescending demeanour is real and most of us pakistanis/south asians have experienced it.

That is 25 long years.

[Royal_Gala]

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^ what’s so different now? And I don’t just mean the hijab/abaya bit

Are women ‘allowed’ to drive now? They surely weren’t 25 long years ago
forget the driving!! What kind of education can foreigners get?

Just this past hajj an Iranian haji got 50 lashes for chanting ‘Ya Ali’ right in the mosque (a witnesses told me this herself)

Our own Pakistani journalist is getting his own share in the prison in the name of free speech

so no not much has changed …Overall

[Deeba1234]

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@Doppleganger

So mutawwas don’t go around hitting women who uncover their face, or god forbid, their hair? I sure hope that he unveiled women are better drivers.

I know in Jeddah women don’t have to wear hijab let alone burqa.. the muttawa there don’t seem to go as crazy as they do in some places like Riyadh..

[Royal_Gala]

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@Deeba1234

I know in Jeddah women don’t have to wear hijab let alone burqa.. the muttawa there don’t seem to go as crazy as they do in some places like Riyadh..

Dammam as well; They are strict because of the royal family being in Riyadh

[CEO1]

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Can someone explain how on gods earth has KSA managed to weasel their way to the UN Human Rights Council?

I think its beyond me to even instigate a thought never mind understand this.

[LP]

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@Royal_Gala

^ what’s so different now? And I don’t just mean the hijab/abaya bit

Are women ‘allowed’ to drive now? They surely weren’t 25 long years ago
forget the driving!! What kind of education can foreigners get?

Just this past hajj an Iranian haji got 50 lashes for chanting ‘Ya Ali’ right in the mosque (a witnesses told me this herself)

Our own Pakistani journalist is getting his own share in the prison in the name of free speech

so no not much has changed …Overall

The hijab/veil situation has changed and it was exactly that which I pointed out. I live here. You can carry on believing what you left 25 years ago is exactly what we live in now. Totally up to you.

[Royal_Gala]

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^ This was your opportunity to educate some of us based on the questions asked, and this is how you chose to respond?

[muqawwee123]

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I believe when we enter in a discussion with a rigid mindset (main na maanoo type mentality), then we don’t need any explanation. We just need confirmation of our thoughts. Nothing less nothing more.

I saw a strange tendency around me (not talking about discussion on these forums) that people justify their mistakes by pointing out others mistakes. From political parties to religious people, every one follows this.

I was thinking to go through all the posts to know, how come a thread with title related to Canada turned out to Saudi bashing, but…

[Doppleganger]

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@LP

Abaya is compulsory. Not hijab or naqab

Abaya has hijab built in. Either you don’t know what is what or are deliberately going on some tangent.

[LP]

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@Doppleganger

Abaya has hijab built in. Either you don’t know what is what or are deliberately going on some tangent.

Or you don’t know the difference between abaya and hijab

[LP]

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@Doppleganger

Abaya has hijab built in. Either you don’t know what is what or are deliberately going on some tangent.

For informational purpose :

Abaya

Hijab

Abaya and hijab

Naqab

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[Southie]

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^ Is it in the rule book that if a lady wears an Abaya and Hijab, her posture suffers?

Is there some sort of an Abaya / Hijab interaction that caused the lady to pose thusly?