What would you Do???????

Abortion is haram.

you/your partner is pregnant 2-3 months and lets say its the planned baby.

at your regular checkup/ultrasound with your Doc , you have been told that the baby is abnormal to the extent that it will be a fully dependant child from birth till death.

and This means A hell lot of responsibility for the rest of your life.

What will you do???

For the start of conversation : my wife and i have decided no matter how wrong the abortion is but in such a case we will go for it.

Only Serious replies please.

I dont want murder on my hands...or on those of my wife.

Well if you know now how your baby will be and don’t want the responsibility that will come with it considering the dependencies of this new life you’ll bring into the world, then in my opinion, go ahead and abort if the other option is leaving the child abandoned emotionally for the rest of his/her life which I think is far worse. This is a very sensitive topic and I really don’t think there is any right or wrong answer here. It’s however you and your spouse feel comfortable with that counts. May God help guide you towards the appropriate decision.

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if i were in the same boat, i personally would keep the baby. a baby is a god’s gift. the baby will be like any other human, except trapt in an abnormal body. i don’t want to discriminate and say that disabled people don’t deserve to live. they do. it’s not their fault.

but this is all my personal opinion. allah knows best, and whatever he put you through, he will help you out of it. it’s your desision as a couple; all the best bro :flower1:

2-3 months would, by one hadith, mean that the baby does not have a soul therefore the abortion would not be murder.

The Hanafi and Shafi scholars draw their verdict from the following Hadith.

Indeed, the creation of each one of you is brought together in the mother's belly for 40 days in the form of a drop of sperm, then he is a germ-cell for a like period, then an embryonic lump for a like period, then there is sent to him the angel who blows the breath of life into him & who is commanded about four matters: to write down his means of livelihood, his life span, his actions and whether happy or unhappy By Allah, other than whom there is no God, one of you may behave like the people of paradise until there is but an arm's length between him and it, and that which has been written overtakes him and so he behaves like the people of hell fire and thus he enters it; and one of you behaves like the people of hell fire until there is but an arm's length between him and it, and that which has been written overtakes him and so he behaves like the people of paradise and thus he enters it."

( Related by Al Bukhari & Muslim.)

This Hadith makes it clear that a concieved baby has no no life, no soul, and is just a chunk of meat until 120 days after conception. At that point, aborting would be the taking of a life and hence murder.

On the other hand, the Hanbali and Maliki scholars argue that the above Hadith is weak, and instead base their view on the following Hadith.

In every one of you, all components of your creation are gathered together in your mothers’ womb by 40 days.
(Narrated in Saheeh Muslim and Al-Bukhaari).

This would suggest that everything, including the life & soul, are in the foetus within 40 days of conception and thus abortion after that would be murder.


First of all, I would not impose such a grave decision on my wife. I would, however, back her to my death on whatever decision she chooses to take about that fate of what is growing inside her. It is a fact that a child's mother is in most cases much more emotionally involved with a baby, both born and unborn, than the father can ever be.

Given that I am much more inclined to accept the Hanafi juristic view than any others, I would probably support my wife should she decide to go ahead with the abortion.

I would back her on the grounds that abortion would, at that stage of pregnancy, be nothing other than removal of a chunk of meat from inside of my wife, rather than being murder.

On the other hand, should the condition be diagnosed after 120 days following conception, then under no conditions whatsoever would I support the abortion. I have no wish to be party to murder. Should my wife decide to have the abortion regardless of my own views, I would divorce her following the abortion as I would not be able to stand being married to a murderer.

How can they tell in a 2-3 month pregnancy. Dont you have to be a little further then that?

Sometimes they can tell Muniya, depends what kind of abnormality there is.

They can tell pretty early on.. that's the reason they want you in within the first week after conception.... at least in the US they do that.

May Allah be with the both of you.. do what you think is best for you and the unborn.. do it not because it'd be a responsibility, but because every child deserves to lead a full life and not brought into this world knowing fully well his/her would be a 100% dependant life.

Inshallah the Almighty will give you strength to make the decision and live with it.

sorry

okay guys , thanks for you view and advices

First i have to clear something. no my wife is not pregnant. and no god forbid its not happenign to us. and hopefully should also not happento any one else.

just wanted to know what will you guys do in that situation "if it happes to any one".

Roshi we are sorry to hear the news and our best wishes and prayers are for you. its your decesion to go ahead and hopefully allah be with you.

Sorry, I guess we all misunderstood you.

Well its good that you and your wife are not in this kind of situation.

hey roshi whats your location are you guys in melbourne???

Abortion is murder. Simple as that. Abnormal or normal, the choice is Allahs to give you the child he/she sees fit. So who are we to refuse such a thing?

Abnormal pregnancy.. people should go ahead and abort in such situations. If you want to bring a life into this world.. and you know whatever his/her stay in this world is.. it is not going to be easy at all on him/her and yourself.. it is better to go ahead and abort.

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Abnormal pregnancy.. people should go ahead and abort in such situations. If you want to bring a life into this world.. and you know whatever his/her stay in this world is.. it is not going to be easy at all on him/her and yourself.. it is better to go ahead and abort.
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I agree.

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*Originally posted by Chandbeti: *
Abnormal pregnancy.. people should go ahead and abort in such situations. If you want to bring a life into this world.. and you know whatever his/her stay in this world is.. it is not going to be easy at all on him/her and yourself.. it is better to go ahead and abort.
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agree .

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*Originally posted by Chandbeti: *
Abnormal pregnancy.. people should go ahead and abort in such situations. If you want to bring a life into this world.. and you know whatever his/her stay in this world is.. it is not going to be easy at all on him/her and yourself.. it is better to go ahead and abort.
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I see your point but its not always as easy as that, especially if you are the mother carrying the child. Surely everyone has a right to life, whatever the 'quality' of it is.

you are right shahren but it is such a pain for mother having abnormal child and so is for child :( i have seen such cases yar .

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I see your point but its not always as easy as that, especially if you are the mother carrying the child. Surely everyone has a right to life, whatever the 'quality' of it is.
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I know what you are saying is right. It would be a really hard decision for the parents to make( especially the mother). But I think they would suffer more if they give birth to the child and witness all the hardships the child has to face in his life and most probably the death too( most children born with abnormalities*mental mostly* die at a younger age). Once you give birth you are naturally going to be more in love and attached to the child.. so seeing him/her die or suffer after years of the birth would be horrendous.

And I think the quality of life matters. Like if the parents are not financially stable.. I think they shouldn't try getting prenant at all until they are on the track. Same way.. if they already know what kinda life their impaired child may have to lead.. they should really go ahead and terminate the pregnancy.

Apparently, the emotional attachment begins during pregnancy - it’s a biochemical thing going on :smooth: