What time Sehri Should be Stopped ?

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Shaykh Ibn Baaz (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: “Suhoor is not a condition for fasting to be valid, rather it is mustahabb (recommended), because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Have suhoor, for in suhoor there is blessing.” (Agreed upon).

Fataawa al-Shaykh Ibn Baaz, vol. 4, p. 259.

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just wanted to add this in reference to the suhoor

the Messenger (SAW) commanded the Muslims to take the Suhoor (Pre-dawn meal) as a means of being different in our fasting from the fasting of the People of the Book. 'Amr Ibn al-Aas reported that the Messenger of Allah (SAW) said: "The distinguishing feature between our fast and the fast of the People of the Book is in the eating at the time just before dawn." [Muslim]

And he (SAW) also said: "Take the Suhoor because in the Suhoor is Barakah (blessings)."[Bukhaaree and Muslim]

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Quibbling over such trivial matters is antithetical to the spirit of fasting and Ramzaan. Get a grip folks. 5/10/15 minutes of not-eating will not kill you!!

Also weren't fasts supposed to be 24 hour long before the Prophet reduced them to daylight hours.

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my fam n i stop like right wen azan happens?

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So its recommended vs commanded.. that helps alot :)
Ill just stick with what i've been taught all my life...

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Many muslims find that website questionable. Sharaabis don’t I guess.

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^ If, by muslims, you mean barelvis, sufis, modernists secularists and liberal muslims...then I wont argue with you.

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I do too and I don't fit into any of those groups mentioned.

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i’m not liberal or secular or modernist (or sufi and barelvi) and i find that website questionable.. what does that make me :bummer:

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Yeah some people say you can eat until local Aazan time

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Your views are opposite then Hanafi fiqh, I find it conflicting. Well if you say that to be on safe side then why we cannot start Fasting of Ramadan one day earlier TO BE ON SAFE SIDE

The Holy Prophet Sallallaho Alaihi Wasallam has stated the Allah has said that out of my servants I love those more who rush their Iftari and delay their Sehri [Ahmad, Tirmizi etc.].
It is also reported that Allah chooses those who hurry their Iftari and delay their Sehri [Tibrani].
Rule : To eat Sehri and to delay it is Sunnat, but to delay it so much that their is doubt that the dawn will break then this is Makrooh [Alamgiri, Bahar].

2:187. ................, and eat and drink until the whiteness of the day becomes distinct from the blackness of the night at dawn, then complete the fast till night, ...................... Thus does Allah make clear His communications for men that they may guard (against evil).

In most of the muslim Countries the FAJAR azan is actually 15 - 20 Min. before time. Also do you think that until one hundred years ago the Azan was on dot???? I don't think so. Still if you start listening to AZAN-e-Fajar it will continue in different masjids for at least 15 mins after first one. Which one will be right ( All of them ?????) and which one you will follow (GEO, PTV or local Masjid)

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Kehkeshan - Sharaabi here has such nice points, why do u have to take it to the nick??? Is there a relation between the nick & the guy behind the nick???

Fraudz bhai is a well known guppy, & does that make him a true "Fraudia" when he argues & posts good comments...I dont think so. I think mods should note this, & making fun of nicks aint allowed...!

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What nice points does he have? He has no points. He just attacked me for not believeing his favourite website and attacked sufis, barelvis etc.

The difference between Fraudia and Sharaabi is that Fraudz doesn't go around labeling and attacking people for having different opinions. That tells a lot about the character of a person.

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^ Well unlike others i dont call everyone good and acceptable.

There is a set criterion against which a person's creed and methodology is measured. And whatever doesnt fit the criterion is wrong and rejected.

I can use the same argument you posted against you. You attack salafis, wahaabis 24/7. You find them extremists, while you find nothing wrong with those who are on the extreme other end of the scale. You show love and allegiance to the Kuffar, but for an orthodox muslim you show nothing but hate. What kind of Islam is that?

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And you are wrong again, just like you were wrong when you supported the Taliban's un-Islamic practices of forcing people to pray, grow beards etc and vanished when presented with facts that go against your claim.

I do not attack salafis 24/7 as you say. I attack extremists and many of them are salafis no doubt. I do not say that all salafis are wrong and that I will never listen to their opinions. If what they say is right according to the Quran and the Hadith, I will listen to them, and if what Sufis say is right according to the Quran and Hadith, I will listen to them as well. That is the difference between you and me. I do not prejudge beforehand. I judge from the actions and words of people.

According to your personal set criteria anyone who does not accept the barbaric anti Islamic tribal rules of the Taliban is wrong and not a true orthodox Muslim. That is your greatest failing. You have become so enamored with the Taliban, that you have tried to twist Hadith and Quran to suit your political views.

I leave you with a hadith from which you may learn something.

Ibn Abbas related: When the Prophet Muhammad came to Madinah, he found (the Jews) fasting on the day of Ashura. They used to say: 'This is a great day on which Allah saved Moses and drowned the folk of Pharoah. Moses observed the fast on that day as a sign of gratitude to Allah. The Prophet Muhammad said: "I am closer to Moses than them." So, he observed the fast (on this day) and ordered the Muslim to fast on it." [Bukhari and Muslim]

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Isn't fajr time and dawn time totally different? In my namaz table, fajr namaz time is at 5:20, does it mean I should stop eating at 5:20am? But looking outside it is totally dark upto 6am and dawn is not until 6:15 am, does that mean you are still allowed to eat even after the azan? Or does it make the roza Makrooh?

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I believe you can stop sehri a couple of minutes before fajr azaan..
Jamiatul Ulama KwaZulu Natal :: Islamic Information Centre

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The sahoor stops at Subah-e-Kaadhib time whereas Fajr time starts at Subha-e-Saadiq..

The hadeeth in Saheeh Bukhari where Sahaba kiram (RA) asked prophet:saw2: the same question, quotes prophet:saw2: saying that eating should stop before Faj’r azaan long before that one can read 50 ayaat of quran.

That’s exactly how long it takes from Subha-e-Kaadhib to Subha-e-Sadiq… that is 10 minutes before the start of Faj’r time…

Timepass- May 2012
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Name of Questioner Yara - Bahrain
Title Deadline for Taking Sahur
Question
Respected scholars, as-salamu `alaykum.

By how many minutes away from Fajr Prayer should we refrain from having sahur? Ramadan kareem to you and your family!
Date 04/Sep/2008
Name of Counsellor Muzammil Siddiqi
Topic Fasting
Answer

In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

All praise and thanks are due to Allah, and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger.
Dear sister, thank you for your question that shows a great desire to know the teachings of Islam. We appreciate the confidence you have in us and implore Almighty Allah to help us serve His cause and render our work for His sake.
Sister, one of the very good things in Ramadan is sahur (Arabic for: meal before fasting. It is a sunnah of Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him). More than one hadith referred to sahur,“The difference between our fasting and that of the People of the Book is sahur” (Muslim).

A Muslim should be alert regarding the deadline of sahur, as one could lose his or her fasting if still eating and the fasting for the day has already begun. A Muslim is allowed to eat up till the time for Fajr Prayer, but once the call to prayer has been made, he or she should stop eating.

In his response to your question, Dr. Muzammil H. Siddiqi, president of the Fiqh Council of North America, stated,

You can eat up to the time of F ajr Prayer. Almighty Allah says in the Qur’an, **Eat and drink until the white thread of dawn becomes distinct from the black thread (of night)**Al-Baqarah 2:187).

In an authentic hadith, the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said, “Eat and drink until Ibn Umm Maktum [the caller to Prayer at the time] gives the adhan [Arabic for: call for the Prayer].”

Ibn Umm Maktum was a blind man, and he used to give adhan after people tell him that the dawn has appeared. It is good to eat until the last minute until F ajr starts as the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said, “My community will remain following the balanced way as long as they make iftar (Arabic for: meal to break the fast) early and delay their sahur.”

Of course, one should be careful of the beginning and ending times of the fast. We are not allowed to eat in the time between Fajr and Maghrib (Arabic for: sunset).

Also read:
Taking Suhur While the Adhan of Fajr Is Raised

Sahur (Pre-Dawn Meal): A Condition for the Fast?](http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?cid=1119503543042&pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar%2FFatwaE%2FFatwaEAskTheScholar)

When to Stop Eating Sahur (Imsak)

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Zaid ibn Thaabit:razi: said:

"We ate the Sahoor with the Messenger:saw2:, then we got up to offer the Salaah (prayer - in this case the Fajr prayer).

I asked:

**“What was the time between the Adhaan (call to prayer) and the Sahoor?” **

He:saw2: said:

**“(The time it would take) to recite fifty verses.” **

*[Saheeh Bukhaari and Muslim] *