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^ I just wrote in the French of Multan.
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i already know who will translate that for me:D…
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Halley tussi kithey rehndey o? who will translate for you? Jaques Chiraag putter? O Bibijee this is French of Multan and its very complicated!
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lol 
…multan is in panjab…so french of multan means punjabi;);););)…south punjabi:D
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Seraiki is the major language of south punjab
P.S
mulz saab seraiki tu door ki baat aap tu punjabi sahee say type nahi kar rahay.
hun tussy ik kam karo punjabi dee classan lo taino punjabi day ustad dee lore aay
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really? you become my ustad then.
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Unfortunately Talibans were muslim and they implemented their own version of shariah which was a mixed with their tribal traditions etc.but they were not following islam correctly
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FYI: Sharia law does not punish for crime comitted inside the house, alone. It does however punish advertisement of sin. During the timeof Abu-Bakr and Omar there were people driking in there houses. This is not punishable because they are not hurting the society, even though they are comitting one of the greatest sin. Secondly since only Allah knows about it, the person can repent to him, indeed HE is forgiving and merciful.
before commenting, we should learn the sharia law. It is law made by Allah and will definitely raise your eye brows due to brilliance of it. few example.
No compulsion in religion.
Freedom of speech. Not slander
Each religion living under sharia get there own court system, and can choose to goto sharia court.
I will gaurantee, it will put the most forward nation today to shame. the missing ingredient is understanding of it. Why did you not hear about this, because we choose to hear instead to read! Like you i am no expert, but trying to understand.
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^ What I was saying is what Omar and Abu Bakr (RAA) were doing. The Quranic Law (Shariah), designed to protect man from sin, governs a human beings life but it is ultimately each persons choice to follow it. This should be kept seperate from State laws which are desgined to protect society from harm. It is true that they coincide at many points but there are some grave differences and mixing the two completely leads to → Afghan Christian Convert Situation.
However, all Shariah that have to do with protecting society can be made into state laws. :k:
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Proof is in the pudding. If big time Muslim scholars haven't been able to figure out what Sharia law is? where do the ordinary mortals stand?
Sharia laws of Saudi or Iran have failed to provide justice. Any other models? or the Saudi scholars or Iranian ayatullahs do not understand Sharia?
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^Thats a false statement. In which aspect do you think the Shria laws failed in Iran and Saudi Arabia? If your concern is about the form of governance, then its a separate issue altogether. But if your understanding of Shria is just limited to the hand imputation and haddod ordinance then you don’t know what shria is. The point is there are hundreds of laws which are based on Islamic shria already on the books in Pakistan. Its the inability of the Pakistani Judiciary system to implement them, its not the fault of the Shria compliant laws.
For example there is a principle in Shria that laws should be legislated on the principle of Maslaha مصلحۃ and not on the bases of Sadduzzara'a سد الزرائع. Maslaha means welfare, and Sadduzzara's means when a law becomes a source of trouble, so there can be no laws legislated against the welfare of people and laws that can be source of problem for the people. Now based on this Shria principle you can not find a single law in Iran , Saudi Arabia or even in Pakistan. But then, the main issue is how these welfare laws are legislated and implemented, this is where the problem lies not in Shria. So please its our duty as Muslims to get familiar with the principles of Islamic shria before we jump on the wagon to bash it.
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Oh Baboo sab, It is not the duty of every Muslim to become the jurist. It is the duty of jurists or scholars to provide the agreed upon set of laws.
Muslims Jurists and scholars are at each other's throat precisely because they can not agree on a single set of laws. Sunnis have 4 sources and Shias have their own.
If all these learned-in-Islam-who-have-spent-their-lives-in-the-business-of-Islam people can't figure out the in and out of Islamic laws, how do you expect ordinary folks to help?
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Sharia thats it.
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Pakistan has laws...why not trying to implement them before changing them? ;)
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You are wrong! It is duty of every muslim to understand his/her religion.
Sunni have one source, it is reffered to as Sunnah. Luckily we have, the four caliphs (SWW), plus more caliphate as case study to learn.
Four different interpretations you are refering to are related to times when books were not commonly avaialble, and comunication was limited by time, thus the school of though was taught. Now you can pick up Quran, Sahih Bukhari, Sahih Muslim, Ibn-Kathir, etc… at any bookshop.
And if you have enough skill to write messages here, then you can understand these books and our sharia. Some more info, democray is awesome as long as it is Islamic democracy, not Roman!
The true democracy, where leaders are not hiding behind lines of , secuirity forces police, army, secret agencies etc…
If humans follow this mindset we would be nowhere. It took edison 200 tries to invent a light bulb. What you are saying is he should give up on the first try.
Please don’t think i am arguing with you, all i am suggesting is pick up the Quran and read in a language that you are fluent in. It is unfortunately a common belief in our society that is Quran/Islam is hard to understand. While our Prophet (PBUH) was illitrate. Thus the reallity is total vice versa. Once we take the first step of understanding the basics, we can take the next step.
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Duty of every Muslim? Sure it is like every car driver should know how to drive a car. But it is in no way possible that every car driver can take apart the engine, fix the dents, reprogram the computer/controller, paint the exterior and the list goes on.
People who insist that every car driver must be a mechanic, painter, and upholstery expert, just live in another world.
If Dr. Israr Ahmad with huge beard cannot convince Iranian Ayatullah to say prayers in the same mosque, then who are you to suggest that one shariat is possible?
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Although you are from Paris and we all love you for taking interest in Pakistan, but please dont mock us, and our laws.
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I’m not mocking your laws:grumpy:…
there are a lot of nice laws in pakistan…my fiance (lawyer apprentice in pak) has talked about it to me…but the problem he sees daily in court is the misfunctiun of the judiciary system…due to some corrupt practices:mad:
nice pakistani laws have to be implemented! i’m sure pakistan would be a better place to live in…if people were using the laws that are already there!
ps: t’s easy for pardesi to idealise/demonise the system they are trying to escape:D…but if they liked pakistani laws and system would they have left pak in the first place??
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So are you suggesting everyone who leaves Pakistan for studying/working in other countries leaves because they dont like its laws? I am sorry but I thought you were wiser than that paris-e-noor.
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i'm not sggesting it's cause of the LAWS...
you did not understand...i don't pakistani laws are bad, ill...i think the problem is corruption!....you can make all the laws you want inpak....as long as there is a lot of corruptiun the system will not be ok...and lots of people will go away to find somewhere else what they can't in pak: justice, be it social justics, economic justice...whatever...don't pretend you ignore that some people do leave pakistan for some reasons....cause i don't think all the pakistanese who leave pak are stupids who have no clue about what they are doing:D