Oh I know what you mean, and you are right. But I meant more for people who are calling OP mean and making her sound bad because she doesn’t want her MIL there - well, haven’t we all at some point want to just spend time with our friends? What’s so wrong in that? Elders also have their elderly get togethers. Kids have theirs. So why can’t the OP? Just because you are not including your MIL in ONE event, which you want just to be that of friends, doesn’t make you evil. Esp when in OP’s case her MIL is…well, crazy doesn’t even begin to explain. But anyway, so that’s where I was coming from.