What Jinnah said to USA

hahah.

CM bhai. You are a riot (of good kind though)

Perhaps too much sun in Sudanese summer, and not enough exposure to intellectual environment both have conspired to create false visions for you. It is OK. It is curable. Clean water, good living in Pakistan will cure you for such issues.

Anyone will be a failure in the study of Pak history if they can't connect the dots of Jinnah and liaqat policies towards the USA.

Liaqat followed up on Jinnah's vision and established special military relations with the US administration of Eisenhower, and not too long after that, American bases were established in Pakistan.

However if you want to ignore the importance of Jinnah, then Liaqat and then their successors,

Then you perhaps are living mentally in Sudan with no knowledge whatsoever about Pakistan.

Thank you.

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Seriously? Now you are changing your statement yet again. Jinnah nor did Liaqat Ali provide the US any bases in Pakistan. Nor did they make any agreement to provide such bases.

To my knowledge the US has never had bases in Pakistan until Musharraf. So how can you make claims (that are obviously false) that Jinnah provided the US bases in Pakistan?

CM bhai,

it is such a shame that good hearted intellectuals like yourself are so ignorant of Pakistan's history.

It is sad to see that even in the age of internet, people still are ignorant. And that's fine.

The problem comes in when that ignorance breads and changes to the worst possible form of human-intellect called "arrogance".

I wish you had just typed up few keywords in the google search bar, before posting the fallacies. You would have gotten at least one hit on the name Badaber.

But then I wish that all Pakistanis become educated about the history of their own land.

Is that too much to ask?

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Oh really then prove your comment. When did Jinnah allow for US military bases in Pakistan.

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^^ CM bhai,

Read your post #44, and cry about your ignorance.

So any answer on #45 (instead of this childish series of questions like prove it prove it prove it prove it).

Thank you.

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Posh Spice. The issue is simple. You made stuff up. You lied. Plain and simple.

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^ yup you are right starting from Quaid-e-Azam to Zardari every one say the same line to american's: "Go Screw yourself" .. now it's up to your intelligence..... was this Pakistan's saying to American's.. or otherway around.. !

Let me ask you a simple question, since you love childish accusatory stuff.

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  1. Name the top level Pak leader who visited USA started negotiations with with Eisenhower administration to setup American bases in Pak?

  2. Name the top level Pak leader who finalized the pact with Eisenhower administration to setup American bases in Pak?

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Thank you.

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I am not here to provide you answers for your own question. You said Jinnah provided US military bases in Pakistan. Prove it.

Jinnah's policies set in motion the defense / military cooperation that resulted in few years in the form of American bases in Pak.

Why it is so hard to for you to understand this simple concept?

To much African/Arab tribal -exposure may be?

So if you insist that Jinnah didn't provide bases, then tell us who did.

---- hint hint, it wasn't mushi.

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So you did lie when you said Jinnah provided the Americans bases in Pakistan.

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CAlm down CM bahi,

Your tribal mind is not thinking straight.

So here is a bit of spoon feeding for Munna bhai.

  1. Jinnah started the negotiations with the US, (but he died due to poor health)
  2. Liaqat Ali Khan went to USA and setup the details
  3. Suhrawardy then went to USA and finalized the details and

guess what, America's National Security Agency setup their offices in Pakistan right away, followed by airbases especially the one in badaber.

I know you will refuse to learn due to the tribal arrogance. But facts are facts.

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and they will remain facts.. !

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Yeah they remain facts in the mind of the delusional. Seriously reading one page from the JSTOR website does not mean that is the full picture.

You stated that Jinnah provided the US with military bases in Pakistan. False. Then you move all the way to 1953 when Eisenhower became president.

After which you move to 1960 and the U-2 incident. So starting in 1947 when Jinnah made this speech you jump all the way to 1960 when you mention the badaber base near Peshwar and credit him with actions that took 13 years.

Well done.

The beauty of all of this is that you do not realize is that Eisenhower asked for the support. Nobody offered it.

Burqa, did you think of 'hell bent' as a gali? or you used 'gali galoch' figuratively?

The first case would show your lack of comprehension and the second case would establish that it is okay for you to use 'figure of speech' (if you know what that is) and not for others.

Lets go back to Quaid's speech now?